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Beachcomber posted:We really need to get people thinking about class solidarity. The problem is, I'm not sure there are any symbols for that which aren't a hammer and sickle. Is there a progressive version of the Don't Tread on Me snake flag? Maybe something in blue? 
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Nonsense posted:The Democrats are floating *facedown in the pool with their shades on and a bottle of Jameson. ftfy 
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Nov 15, 2016 20:11
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Beachcomber posted:Oh hey, look at this: They desperately need to bring office drones into the mix though. Just look at what Disney did the IT guys who did the infrastructure for DisneyWorld. Labor isn't just work you do outside or on the factory floor.
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crazy cloud posted:I'm not loving knocking on doors tho Yeah I'm in the middle of trying to figure out how to help because I'm even more mealy mouthed and incoherent IRL than my posting. I figure they might need help cleaning or cooking or data entry or collating forms or something.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:12
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Biden failed in multiple primary runs before. I think he may have just not wanted to go through that again, especially when he was probably just fine with Hillary carrying on the Obama legacy.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:12
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Beachcomber posted:We really need to get people thinking about class solidarity. The problem is, I'm not sure there are any symbols for that which aren't a hammer and sickle. Is there a progressive version of the Don't Tread on Me snake flag? Maybe something in blue? Money, food, joining the picket. If you really wanna go  then solidarity strikes are pretty A+++
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Nov 15, 2016 20:12
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LegoPirateNinja posted:They desperately need to bring office drones into the mix though. Just look at what Disney did the IT guys who did the infrastructure for DisneyWorld. Ironically enough the main symbol of office-drone oppression is Dilbert this image with Samir from Office Space on one side and Michael from Office Space on the other side
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Nov 15, 2016 20:14
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Lastgirl posted:he wasn't mentioned in C-SPAM at all from July to November because we were wasted as poo poo, linking yt songs he's running for dnc chair against kool keith ellison
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Nov 15, 2016 20:14
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a helpful bear posted:I'm sure this has been covered several times over, but is it worth it to push on the 2018 elections (maybe not to the point of burning out the party) or just prep for 2020? I think Republicans can form a drat near super-majority if they play their cards right so 2018 is really loving important. It's also going to be crazy hard for the Dems to get ahead because they have a lot more vulnerable seats up for grabs.
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Democrats have to brace themselves for a hold in 2018 or they're doomed. This alone is going to be very difficult.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:17
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Got a response from the vice chair of the GA Democratic party,  She is concerned about bernies message and how it failed to resonate with poc. The dem primary was eons ago but my impression is that this was a campaign failure in getting the message to older folks; didn't he have high support among younger voters across demographics? I haven't responded yet because I want to get something more concrete Also am I allowed to say PoC regardless of whether I am one, I don't know the rules. I'm an oC Person
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Nov 15, 2016 20:17
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LegoPirateNinja posted:They desperately need to bring office drones into the mix though. Just look at what Disney did the IT guys who did the infrastructure for DisneyWorld. Labor isn't just work you do outside or on the factory floor. Agreed. How do we convince the white collars that they're not automatically above the blue collars? There needs to be a message that if you live paycheck to paycheck you're WORKING or WAGE CLASS, even if you're salaried. Especially if you're salaried because those people are getting taken advantage of like crazy.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:17
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loquacius posted:Ironically enough the main symbol of office-drone oppression is Dilbert It's a catastrophe. In UK Office there's this loving scene where Martin Freeman is walking down to the warehouse as part of some workplace education thing, and he's like, "Alright, folks, we're about to encounter working class... so brace yourselves." or something. Bitch that's YOU! If no one works for you and your wages are poo poo, YOU ARE THE WORKING CLASS.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:17
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Can I just requote myself here because I don't understand why nobody else appreciated this image of a pomaded jowly white dude with a vaguely confused look on his face named Matthew "Matt" Johnson as much as I did
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Somebody doesn't like the idea of Keith Ellison as chair https://twitter.com/mmfa/status/798589502533070849
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Nov 15, 2016 20:18
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Zikan posted:he's running for dnc chair against kool keith ellison i am aware of that because hey he's only a lobbyist to put caviar on the table for his kids I'm just saying he wasn't relevant until just now.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:20
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slicing up eyeballs posted:Got a response from the vice chair of the GA Democratic party, This is basically it as I understand it; young people love Bernie and he lost the South largely because when those states voted (and particularly when they early voted) he hadn't really had a chance to whip the youth up into a fervor yet and the same cabal of old people who always vote in primaries voted how you would expect them to. The South is also generally more conservative than other areas where he did well, but I'm confident his message could have connected with them if his messaging was better.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:21
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slicing up eyeballs posted:Got a response from the vice chair of the GA Democratic party, I'd counter with how did Hillary resonate with them on election day, but that's probably not productive. I'd probably also tell them to run Killer Mike for Senate.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:23
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Zythrst posted:Somebody doesn't like the idea of Keith Ellison as chair How much money am I allowed to give Ellison, because I love watching Republicans drool all over themselves on this poo poo.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:23
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"I don't like so and so's policies but they can win" is how you end up with Clinton
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Zythrst posted:Somebody doesn't like the idea of Keith Ellison as chair I had to stop watching after "The Qu'ran is the so-called 'holy book' of Islam"
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Nov 15, 2016 20:23
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Beachcomber posted:Agreed. How do we convince the white collars that they're not automatically above the blue collars? There needs to be a message that if you live paycheck to paycheck you're WORKING or WAGE CLASS, even if you're salaried. Especially if you're salaried because those people are getting taken advantage of like crazy. Hey thats a hell of a point. 'Paycheck class' consists of a gently caress ton of people and correctly points out the opposite: the investor class. Crab mentality is severe in the white collar world.
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im sorry about quoting the whole OP but I wanted to read it without that idiotic tablebreaking line im sorry too but you couldve just previewed it without hitting reply, dummy~ 
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Nov 15, 2016 20:27
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dookifex_maximus posted:im sorry about quoting the whole OP but I wanted to read it without that idiotic tablebreaking line im sorry too let me know when you finish reading it tia
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Nov 15, 2016 20:29
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Venom Snake posted:"I don't like so and so's policies but they can win" is how you end up with Clinton Yeah he wouldn't be my pick or anything, I just liked him better as a candidate than HRC in a choice between the two of them because I didn't like her on policy either I'm reminded of that study from 2012 where people said they hated Obamacare but loved the ACA and sometimes even said Obamacare should be replaced with the ACA
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Nov 15, 2016 20:30
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everyone needs to listen this imo https://soundcloud.com/chapo-trap-house/episode-27-tomorrow-belongs-to-them-feat-bro_pair-8116
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Nov 15, 2016 20:32
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loquacius posted:Yeah he wouldn't be my pick or anything, I just liked him better as a candidate than HRC in a choice between the two of them because I didn't like her on policy either I knew a guy who would bitch about unions and then take his crops down to the coop.
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dookifex_maximus posted:im sorry about quoting the whole OP but I wanted to read it without that idiotic tablebreaking line You could've just clicked preview instead of actually replying with it.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:34
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Zythrst posted:I knew a guy who would bitch about unions and then take his crops down to the coop. Only moral x is my x, alive and well (as if there were any doubts).
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reignonyourparade posted:You could've just clicked preview instead of actually replying with it. No no, let him finish reading it.  Sheng-ji Yang posted:everyone needs to listen this imo would if i could, too bad podcasts don't have subtitles.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:35
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Zythrst posted:I knew a guy who would bitch about unions and then take his crops down to the coop. In fairness they mostly imagined "unions just exist to enrich the union boss" line really CAN'T apply to a coop.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:36
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Beachcomber posted:Agreed. How do we convince the white collars that they're not automatically above the blue collars? There needs to be a message that if you live paycheck to paycheck you're WORKING or WAGE CLASS, even if you're salaried. Especially if you're salaried because those people are getting taken advantage of like crazy. Acelerion posted:Hey thats a hell of a point. 'Paycheck class' consists of a gently caress ton of people and correctly points out the opposite: the investor class. this seems like v good messaging to me a dumb nerd on the internet
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So I emailed my state party chairs in support of Keith and one of them sent me back a personal message with follow-up questions within 2 working days of the original email. That's cool.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:38
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:If any of you missed it last night: I know this is from a few pages back but PPPs are a loving unholy abomination of inconpetence and graft and their only purposes is to bankrupt public finances and provide lobyist with cushy boardroom jobs.if any politician proposes them theres a good chance they are unrepentant assholes.
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Nov 15, 2016 20:42
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loquacius posted:An interesting question that has come to mind a lot over the last week is, does it do more damage in the long term when a Republican wins, or when the wrong Democrat wins? At some point, the Democratic working man voter will come around to the realization that the Democratic party as no ability to pass legislation that benefits him. Now, you can chalk this up to an ideological different (IE: Democrats would rather push social issues as a way to differentiate themselves vs. Republicans than pushing more egalitarian economic ideas), or the completely ineffectual nature of congressional and presidential Democrats (IE: Democrats see government as a shield while Republicans see government as a sword). Whichever camp you fall in doesn't really matter, the fact is that we've been voting in establishment Democrats since 1992 and we've only seen the further destruction of the working class (both minority and white). The rebuke of Clinton was long in the making, and I don't think there were many ways to sidestep it short of just pushing further left in the late 80's.
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Hahaha even after a devastating loss, Dems still aren't allowed to talk about what went wrong in the primaries in CSPAM? Lollin forever
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Public position: Needs more study. Private position: quote:URSULA BURNS: So long means thumbs up, short means thumbs down; or long means I support, short means I don’t. I’m going to start with — I’m going to give you about ten long-shorts. http://www.marijuana.com/blog/news/2016/10/clinton-gave-thumbs-down-to-legal-marijuana-leak-shows/ Also looks like Wikileaks may have been compromised ever since Assange went dark in October. Someone may have not liked their election being messed with. e: or it's just a mistake from wikileaks. FuriousxGeorge has issued a correction as of 21:02 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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