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EvanTH posted:Yeah those are the things I read. Seems like a big stretch to take offense on that. and yeah gently caress you. They all have jobs. And have done really well with those jobs. Most high level jobs in this world are based around where you were born, who you were born from, and who you know. Lebron does other poo poo than loving basketball. He has investments, endorsements and other things that his "posse" need to manage and look after.
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Dexo posted:Keep in mind. This night they were talking about was loving Thanksgiving that Lebron and the team wanted to stay in Cleveland/Akron and have the team over for it. 
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points guard baby https://twitter.com/NBAcom/status/798377061308043264
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Cool Buff Man posted:Friends and family works pretty well Well, Jackson's telling a story about Riley being dismissive of LeBron's crew, so some modicum of offense was likely intended when Riley first said it. Trying to put that on Jackson for telling the story and adding in some assumed racist positioning has got to be a foul for reaching on LeBron's Superfan Dancing Pep Squad ft. Mav Carter
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EvanTH posted:Well, Jackson's telling a story about Riley being dismissive of LeBron's crew, so some modicum of offense was likely intended when Riley first said it. Trying to put that on Jackson for telling the story and adding in some assumed racist positioning has got to be a foul for reaching on LeBron's Superfan Dancing Pep Squad ft. Mav Carter my friend, when i read that, i do not see the use of the word posse as being a quote of phil riley. in my opinion, pat jackson was using posse freely, as a descriptor for lebron james close friends, without any attribution to riley or spoelstra. perhaps when he heard the story, another word was used, like crew. or murder i could be wrong though.
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EvanTH posted:Well, Jackson's telling a story about Riley being dismissive of LeBron's crew, so some modicum of offense was likely intended when Riley first said it. Trying to put that on Jackson for telling the story and adding in some assumed racist positioning has got to be a foul for reaching on LeBron's Superfan Dancing Pep Squad ft. Mav Carter The real issue is how the New York Knicks best player and superstar Carmelo Anthony will feel about all of it. Posse seemed to be Phil's choice though edit: https://twitter.com/NYPost_Berman/status/798589647349813254 Cool Buff Man fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Nov 15, 2016 20:06
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Heyyy, Jrue's playing Friday. Sorry Timmy, it was fun while it lasted
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I don't think it actually was on Thanksgiving. The article reads as if they didn't let him stay overnight after a game, but at one point in his career there they did make an exception for Thanksgiving.
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Cool Buff Man posted:Heyyy, Jrue's playing Friday. Sorry Timmy, it was fun while it lasted Jrue will be on a minutes limit to start with, at least. He is healthy and in-shape, the team says, but they want to work him into "game shape". And they are the only two players who can competently run the point, so I would not be surprised if they end up spending a lot of time on the floor together, as well.
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Redgrendel2001 posted:I don't think it actually was on Thanksgiving. The article reads as if they didn't let him stay overnight after a game, but at one point in his career there they did make an exception for Thanksgiving. Yeah, that's what I understood it to say, too.
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Kibner posted:Jrue will be on a minutes limit to start with, at least. He is healthy and in-shape, the team says, but they want to work him into "game shape". So you're telling me not to dump him in fantasy just yet. Thank you Kibner
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Up Circle posted:my friend, when i read that, i do not see the use of the word posse as being a quote of phil riley. in my opinion, pat jackson was using posse freely, as a descriptor for lebron james close friends, without any attribution to riley or spoelstra. perhaps when he heard the story, another word was used, like crew. or murder I'd say given the context of the story, what Dexo said about Thanksgiving, it effectively expresses how Riley felt about the people around LeBron. Isn't that the whole corporate CEO image of Riley? Expects pure loyalty to the corporation and provides none in return? Dexo posted:and yeah gently caress you. They all have jobs. And have done really well with those jobs. Most high level jobs in this world are based around where you were born, who you were born from, and who you know. Well, yeah?  Aren't we all watchin' Ball for the fantasy escape of it, because within the playing field observed by refs you get maybe the only legitimate meritocracy in the known universe, a purity that cannot exist in the everyday world of coincidence and collusion? Cool Buff Man posted:The real issue is how the New York Knicks best player and superstar Carmelo Anthony will feel about all of it. Posse seemed to be Phil's choice though Yah I'm worried that after trading for Noah and now this the Knicks won't be getting LeBron :[
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Kibner posted:Jrue will be on a minutes limit to start with, at least. He is healthy and in-shape, the team says, but they want to work him into "game shape". what about Tyreke how's he gonna do when he's back
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You would never refer to a white person's business associates as a "posse" and it's both offensive as a white person speaking down to a minority, as well as an executive speaking down to and demeaning a player.
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Nah I would easily refer to an entourage, a group of people who depend on one single person's celebrity for their economic and social lives, in an insulting demeaning manner. I've done it myself on this very page? It's a weird relationship, paid friend to some of the world's richest teenagers. I'd probably think even less of it if I was in some sort of management position.
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Cool Buff Man posted:So you're telling me not to dump him in fantasy just yet. Thank you Kibner No, but plan for a contingency late this month or sometime next month which is when Tyreke is expected to return. He has his first practice with the team today. He isn't to the point of contact practice, though. Tyreke will also be on a minutes restriction when he comes back. Even then, Frazier will get still minutes, but they will be closer to 15 mpg than 30.
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Kibner posted:No, but plan for a contingency late this month or sometime next month which is when Tyreke is expected to return. He has his first practice with the team today. He isn't to the point of contact practice, though. Gotcha. I know Tyreke's a "better" player but man I like watching Tim play a lot more so it's a shame he has to return
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EvanTH posted:Nah I would easily refer to an entourage, a group of people who depend on one single person's celebrity for their economic and social lives, in an insulting demeaning manner. I've done it myself on this very page? It's a weird relationship, paid friend to some of the world's richest teenagers. I'd probably think even less of it if I was in some sort of management position. Yo like LeBron's whole point was that your view is hosed up and wrong and that's what he's trying to correct. LeBron himself is saying that he's a client of Maverick and Rich Paul and that they have built successful businesses on their own. A guy who is supposed to be the general manager of an NBA team should know that as well
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Dirk is still out and the Mavs got killed by the Young Dirk aka King Zing aka Porzingod.  2016-17 Mavs
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IcePhoenix posted:Did anyone really predict the Wolves to win 50 games? I was probably the most bullish on them here and even I said 45-ish, 48 as a ceiling if a whole lotta stuff goes right. http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/10/nba-2016-2017-predictions-season-preview-picks-lebron-james-warriors-kevin-durant-knicks-lamarcus-aldridge https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/10/18/the-probably-airtight-possibly-stone-cold-lock-2016-17-nba-awards-picks-maybe/ And then there were a lot of 'the timberwolves could be 50 games or maybe not' The notion was entertained by some!
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Cool Buff Man posted:Gotcha. I know Tyreke's a "better" player but man I like watching Tim play a lot more so it's a shame he has to return You are not alone in this. My only solace is that it will mean bit players won't be playing as many minutes. They could actually run a backcourt line up of Frazier, Holiday, and Evans. Jrue is the only one who seems to understand how to play off-ball and able to execute team defense, though, so it probably won't get much run.
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https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/798613119970852864 So I can now blame Larry Bird for the Bulls Coach being terrible
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Lockback posted:Some bad luck, defense is problematic right now, a lot of young guys still learning the system. Their offense looks very good and I think the defense will get there. It's just taking a bit for it to translate into wins. I think we're starting to learn that it's very difficult to enter the NBA as a super atheltic wing who isn't incredibly skilled and just be really good. You need a billion moves and countermoves if you're going to be effective player when your know you're running into the guy at the rim and help is always coming. You need to pass, as well. Get Wiggins the fuckign strobe goggles and get them now. Someone should buy a pair for Josh Jackson right now to speed up his development. 50 wins was always a pipe dream, referring to opium, a great drug, because it would have required deep internal improvement from Towns, Wiggins, Lavine, Dieng, and even Muhammad. Cole Aldrich is a solid backup. Rubio is rock solid when he's healthy. But you cant predict the development curve of young fellers, especially in a brand nu system
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gently caress Phil Jackson, gently caress Pat Riley, Melo is cool tho
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euphronius posted:IN my experience "posse" is the term fat white guys on sports radio use to complain about what they perceive to be negative aspects of black athletes' life style It's certainly gotten that way. It was a popular positive term in mid 90s hip hop that was really unpositive before that and has been brought back to its unpositive roots, so people who were maybe hip in the 90s who think they're still hip use it, to majorly embarrassing, or worse, results.
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Adun posted:Yo like LeBron's whole point was that your view is hosed up and wrong and that's what he's trying to correct. LeBron himself is saying that he's a client of Maverick and Rich Paul and that they have built successful businesses on their own. Wait now it's a racist remark because I should respect someone for being good at Business? You don't have to be a good person for that and it's not even cool-looking. I don't go to youtube and look up highlight clips of sick business deals. edit: proved myself wrong, here's the result for a search of "Business Dunk" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5F45Z1HWjTI
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Spacebump posted:Dirk is still out and the Mavs got killed by the Young Dirk aka King Zing aka Porzingod. https://twitter.com/KennyDucey/status/798354865852477444 https://twitter.com/EarlKSneed/status/798372811467329538?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
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Zingis' game has definitely matured since last year. The wild drives to the hole are less frequent and he's been playing better off the ball, letting the game come to him if you will.
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EvanTH posted:Wait now it's a racist remark because I should respect someone for being good at Business? You don't have to be a good person for that and it's not even cool-looking. I don't go to youtube and look up highlight clips of sick business deals. If you don't know someone and it's none of your business you should probably not treat someone with disrespect. It's not all that hard.
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Boosh! posted:Zingis' game has definitely matured since last year. The wild drives to the hole are less frequent and he's been playing better off the ball, letting the game come to him if you will. I can't wait to see a confident Porzingis. Also, I'd like to see him in the post more.
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RCarr posted:Also, I'd like to see him in the post more. We saw that in Toronto, posting up Lowry in crunch time only to be waved off by Melo 
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Does Jake Layman have a nickname because I think it should be "The Professional."
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Adun posted:Yo like LeBron's whole point was that your view is hosed up and wrong and that's what he's trying to correct. LeBron himself is saying that he's a client of Maverick and Rich Paul and that they have built successful businesses on their own. I agree that posse is derogatory to target people who only have merit based on a famous friend, I also don't think Lebron's friends exceed that qualification. They are all literally only in the positions they have because they know Lebron. So I don't know.
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gently caress you. They are literally the ones successfully running a business, foundation etc etc Rich Paul has other clients. Maverick Carter negotiated with Nike a loving "billion" dollar lifetime deal. Handles all of his marketing. As well as running a foundation that does a ton of good poo poo in communities. Don't loving minimize what those dudes are doing. Yes they are friends of LeBron. But you wouldn't call *insert white dude here* hanger on's if they did what they those dudes do for Lebron they would be his business partners or management team.
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Yes without LeBron they wouldn't have had the opportunity to do what they are doing. But they still had to put in the work and do the schooling needed to get to the positions they are in. LeBron gave them the opportunity to put in work and get paid for it and they made their own careers out of it. It's not like they are just crashing at LeBron's crib and not significantly paying back the investment James made in them. And it's offensive as poo poo to minimize that.
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Rich Paul was successful outside of lebron . I don't know the other guy .
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Rich Paul handles the Basketball agent negotiations. Maverick Carter from what I understand handles his "brand" (marketing negotiations and deals and foundation work).
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