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CAPS LOCK BROKEN
Feb 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
The latest headlines about the muslim registry and the wall pretty much show that they're going to kick the economic security poo poo to the side as soon as possible to pander to white nationalists.

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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Look on the bright side: gonna be real easy to stay angry for the next two years and even easier to carry that to 2020.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Like the GOP is more powerful than it's been in almost a century and it looks like this might end up crescendoing into the greatest self-own in US history since Fort Sumter

1-800-DOCTORB
Nov 6, 2009

Fojar38 posted:

Like the GOP is more powerful than it's been in almost a century and it looks like this might end up crescendoing into the greatest self-own in US history since Fort Sumter

From the ashes, a new America will be born. Evolved, but untamed!

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Fojar38 posted:

Like the GOP is more powerful than it's been in almost a century and it looks like this might end up crescendoing into the greatest self-own in US history since Fort Sumter

Don't count on them self owning themselves out of power. We all gotta reach out and grab it while they're busy pulling knives out of their backs.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Fojar38 posted:

Like the GOP is more powerful than it's been in almost a century and it looks like this might end up crescendoing into the greatest self-own in US history since Fort Sumter

I wish I had your optimism

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Mustached Demon posted:

Don't count on them self owning themselves out of power. We all gotta reach out and grab it while they're busy pulling knives out of their backs.

Oh yeah, I'm assuming (hoping) all this dysfunction coincides with guerrilla warfare from the Democrats.

Kobayashi
Aug 13, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo

Cup Runneth Over posted:

I wish I had your optimism

No poo poo. Gross incompetence from an administration that rode into power by blaming minorities seems like an amazing recipe for heinous crimes against humanity.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Fojar38 posted:

Like the GOP is more powerful than it's been in almost a century and it looks like this might end up crescendoing into the greatest self-own in US history since Fort Sumter

I mean probably but that self-own took like 4 years a war to finish followed by the most corrupt presidencies this country has seen. Why the gently caress can't they cob alone and drinking vodka from the bottle like the common man?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Mustached Demon posted:

Don't count on them self owning themselves out of power. We all gotta reach out and grab it while they're busy pulling knives out of their backs.

Yeah I am fairly sure the point of hoping they stab the poo poo out of themselves is so we can run up and twist that poo poo while screaming at them.

menino
Jul 27, 2006

Pon De Floor

PerniciousKnid posted:

It's easier to agree on blowing everything up than it is to agree on building a new health care system. Republican coalitions have entropy on their side.

Sure but on unraveling Obamacare or cutting Medicare, that's not a 'do nothing' stance, they have to get people on board.

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

It is not impossible, however unlikely that Trump becomes Toxic enough that the GOP decides to behave toward him like they did Obama, but for economic reasons.

Given the current tone of the thread, this idea amuses me.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Grognan posted:

I guess I can see why pluralism-only advocates are really afraid that they'd be ignored if another cause that wasn't theirs worked enough that a Democratic ticket might win again. They've been seeing the history of the class advocates getting their poo poo sold down the drain and derided as bad things as soon as it was feasible.

Neoliberals think we're the same as them. It's kind of a fairytale for them. " Everyone is just as dishonest as I am."

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Spaced God posted:

Ted Cruz ran on wanting to prosecute Planned Parenthood for murder.
Joy.

Let him try. SCOTUS won't even hear the case, unless Trump lucks out and manages to stack it with his appointees in the next year.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

menino posted:

Sure but on unraveling Obamacare or cutting Medicare, that's not a 'do nothing' stance, they have to get people on board.

Medicare one's a great opportunity for the Dems to throw a few knives in the gop infighting ring.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Majorian posted:

Let him try. SCOTUS won't even hear the case, unless Trump lucks out and manages to stack it with his appointees in the next year.

Trump's been lucking out pretty hard so I expect a 13 judge SCOTUS staffed with luminary legal minds like Ted Cruz and Eric Trump.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Remember that the Senate needs to confirm Scotus nominees and at the rate things are going the Dems might not even need to filibuster.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

a foolish pianist posted:

So I was with a union, door knocking for Obama in 2012. We spent a lot of time talking to OFA, and OFA was glad to get help from us. When it come to supporting pro-union policies, though, we got nothing. They were happy to have our help, but they clearly didn't care about our poo poo.

I'm starting to think this Obama guy isn't as progressive as these republicans make him out to be

Kobayashi
Aug 13, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo
Well, Candidate Obama vs. President Obama was the preferred meme to express disappointment before the latest act of the the GOP horror show started.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Tight Booty Shorts posted:

I'm starting to think this Obama guy isn't as progressive as these republicans make him out to be

I scoffed on Twitter at someone referencing Obama as a 'left wing radical' and referred to him as a corporate centrist and I got hammered with like 300+ "DEPLORABLE _________" notifications trying to school me for being a 'libtard' and referring to him as a "Marxist."

It's kind of crazy how myopic they are. Obama is a marxist for not being a craven right-wing extremist in their view. And it's almost impossible to speak to them because we don't even speak the same language.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Tight Booty Shorts posted:

I'm starting to think this Obama guy isn't as progressive as these republicans make him out to be

Obama's administration basically just took Bush's and discontinued most of the heinous poo poo, and flipped from socially conservative to socially liberal. They lubed up the federal dick and that was enough for most people to stop complaining.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009

LeeMajors posted:

I scoffed on Twitter at someone referencing Obama as a 'left wing radical' and referred to him as a corporate centrist and I got hammered with like 300+ "DEPLORABLE _________" notifications trying to school me for being a 'libtard' and referring to him as a "Marxist."

It's kind of crazy how myopic they are. Obama is a marxist for not being a craven right-wing extremist in their view. And it's almost impossible to speak to them because we don't even speak the same language.

90% of them don't know it, but they're talking about cultural marxism which is an alt right protocols of zion type conspiracy theory, complete with Jews trying to take over the world

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug

Admiral Ray posted:

Trump's been lucking out pretty hard so I expect a 13 judge SCOTUS staffed with luminary legal minds like Ted Cruz and Eric Trump.

https://twitter.com/HuffPostPol/status/798743925259403268

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

:toot:

Go me.

I think this is just a trick because doesn't literally everyone in the Senate loathe Cruz?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
Ted Cruz wouldn't even accept nomination if it were offered to him; it would be the end of his career and he has too many people left to gently caress and betray

Grognan
Jan 23, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Something about "If the lights went out in the Senate and Ted Cruz was found with a knife in his back, no one would convict."

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Admiral Ray posted:

:toot:

Go me.

I think this is just a trick because doesn't literally everyone in the Senate loathe Cruz?

That or its part of the thing where the quickest way to get 8 vacancies to appoint Cruz. Then it'll be a thousand year Trumpreich.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc
Yeah that's just a troll from Graham.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Grognan posted:

Something about "If the lights went out in the Senate and Ted Cruz was found with a knife in his back, no one would convict."

"If Ted Cruz were murdered on the Senate floor, and the trial was in the Senate, then nobody would convict."

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Admiral Ray posted:

:toot:

Go me.

I think this is just a trick because doesn't literally everyone in the Senate loathe Cruz?

It would get him out of the Senate.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Grognan posted:

Something about "If the lights went out in the Senate and Ted Cruz was found with a knife in his back, no one would convict."

It would correctly be ruled a suicide

1-800-DOCTORB
Nov 6, 2009
Watch Cruz filibuster his own nomination.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


1-800-DOCTORB posted:

Watch Cruz filibuster his own nomination.

By reading the script of Fireproof over and over and over and

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Notorious RBG would probably fill his robes with glitter and rusted razors.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Mustached Demon posted:

Notorious RBG would probably fill his robes with glitter and rusted razors.

I think everyone would do that.

Telephones
Apr 28, 2013
Why is he so hated? How did he ran earn the ire of Republicans?

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Telephones posted:

Why is he so hated? How did he ran earn the ire of Republicans?

Think if one of us got elected to the senate.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
So everything I'm reading is saying the transition team is a flaming hot mess of terribleness , that Kushner Trumps son in law is purging the ranks of anyone even connected to Christie and that there's basically no Republicans willing to take key positions in the administration for fear of just abject failure the administration will be.


So here's the question. What do they do if they don't have their poo poo together by Jan. ? Isn't there over a 1000 different appointments that need to be made not including staff?


Cause pretty sure the Executive Branch has to like function.

Evil Fluffy
Jul 13, 2009

Scholars are some of the most pompous and pedantic people I've ever had the joy of meeting.
Flynn being SecDef might actually scare me more than Trump being President. Trump's in over his head but Flynn is a complete loving monster of a human being and would turn the US in to a Starship Troopers-style military dictatorship without hesitation if he could.

The only upside to Trump letting Kushner be part of his inner circle is that he's probably the only person who can get Bannon fired and persona non grata to Trump. And Considering Kushner's jewish, sooner or later Bannon's going to say some anti-Semitic or otherwise racist poo poo to Kushner's face and all bets are off when that happens. Especially if Ivanka and Donald Trump are both present for it.


Spaced God posted:

Ted Cruz ran on wanting to prosecute Planned Parenthood for murder.
Joy.

He'd file every charge in the 5th(?) circuit as well since it's probably the only one that won't immediately dismiss his cases with extreme prejudice.

Fojar38 posted:

Donald Trump is going to be impeached.

No he won't because nobody in Congress wants to roll the dice on what his crazy white wing followers would do in response to what they'd see as a coup and all those people committing hate crimes in celebration of Trumpism would turn their sights on politicians. Especially GOPers who'd be seen as even bigger traitors than the Dems and liberals they already hate.

The GOP will just make sure Pence and others are sufficiently sweet-talking Trump when they need bills signed while the Secret Service ends up babysitting him for the next several years. Also Black Lives Matter or some other movement will be painted as the source of problems that Trump's having/causing, so that the racist base go after them instead of the GOP.

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Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Hollismason posted:

So everything I'm reading is saying the transition team is a flaming hot mess of terribleness , that Kushner Trumps son in law is purging the ranks of anyone even connected to Christie and that there's basically no Republicans willing to take key positions in the administration for fear of just abject failure the administration will be.


So here's the question. What do they do if they don't have their poo poo together by Jan. ? Isn't there over a 1000 different appointments that need to be made not including staff?


Cause pretty sure the Executive Branch has to like function.

Obama's fault for tping his office.

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