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You can run on any platform you want if people like you and you'll win. I hope the Democrats run some charming motherfucker on a good platform, but the key to winning is the charming motherfucker part. Like, if Obama's 60+% approval came from policy at all, then Clinton was openly the continuation of that, and her platform was totally in line with that, so she should have coasted. Instead her approval going into the election from Gallup was... wait for it... ... ... 40% America just personally hates her guts and thinks Obama is a cool dude.
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Covok posted:How can it only be a week from the election and the administration is already wracked with in-fighting and Trump is being forced to move across the aisle and beg Democrats for recommendations of which Republicans to hire? I suspect reports of infighting are overblown. Given there is a fascist reactionary voter's dream team of picks so far, I don't see any reason as of yet to think there will be much contention over moderate or leftist picks by virtue of there being few to none. We will see in a few months.
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Mustached Demon posted:By the way, SNAP's the single greatest ROI of any government expenditure. *waggle hand* I know which analysis you're referring to but I'd say a few other things beat it (lead paint and piping replacement!). General point is correct though and I'd love to see a sort of General Minimum Snap if we can't get a minimum income. Edit: also I sent in an application for the Trump administration yesterday through their very, very stupid website.  I think my favorite part was "some jobs may require Senate confirmation, like ambassadorships".
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Nice to see that the scum at AIPAC and Sheldon Adelson are out there with oppo dumps against Keith Ellison.
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disjoe posted:She's unemployed. She didn't vote because she didn't like either candidate and was really disgusted by the tone of both campaigns. Her words. Uh yea. Why the hell would we ever loom down on someone like this jfc She has to monitor 4 children at all times. She's probably been abused as well. America is truly hosed until we can figure out how we can convincingly help people like this out.
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Mahoning posted:Why shouldn't they? The NY Times and Fox News get to decide what is fit for public consumption.....why shouldn't a for-profit do whatever the gently caress they want with regards to information on THEIR website? But they choose not to. Hmmmm
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Yeah this is why I wonder if America might end up with a Sulla.
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There are going to be disappointed. The President in the head of the armed forces. mcmagic posted:Nice to see that the scum at AIPAC and Sheldon Adelson are out there with oppo dumps against Keith Ellison. Source?
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Potato Salad posted:You sure? Yea. I'm pretty sure.
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mcmagic posted:Nice to see that the scum at AIPAC and Sheldon Adelson are out there with oppo dumps against Keith Ellison. AIPAC seems
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Do these generals understand what the meaning of commander in chief means
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Can you blame them? Trump: So it's time to take the fight to ISIS, we're gonna invade Turkey! General: Turkey? Trump: Yeah, Putin told me that's where they are. Secret ISIS he said. General: You remember how you withdrew from NATO and then called the Israeli PM a "kike"? Trump: So? General: Yeah, well seeing as we have no refueling stations in Europe or the middle east anymore, and we're down to the third wave of the draft after we invaded Iran and Iraq at the same time, I'm not sure how it's going to happen. Trump: We still got nukes? General: *reaches for katana*
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Covok posted:There are going to be disappointed. The President in the head of the armed forces. https://thinkprogress.org/the-growing-smear-campaign-against-keith-ellison-233e16fab864 greatn posted:AIPAC seems Right Wing Jews (there aren't many of them and they are probably the worst group of people in america) hate progressive jews MUCH more than the KKK and white supremacists.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:It'd be cool to have someone apply for a job in the Trump administration so we could have a mole inside that tells us everything that's occurring in that cesspool Trump has proposed having hires sign non disclosure agreements.
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Covok posted:How can it only be a week from the election and the administration is already wracked with in-fighting and Trump is being forced to move across the aisle and beg Democrats for recommendations of which Republicans to hire? What? Is Trump asking Democrats which Republicans to appoint?
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Shifty Pony posted:There are a whole bunch of reasons but one of the fundamental reasons is that trade lets things be done where people are the "best" and most efficient at doing them so people get the best quality for the lowest prices. Growing vegetables in upstate NY during December is possible but growing asparagus in Peru and shipping it is cheaper and results in better tasting product. The best mines for an ore are most likely nowhere near where the best foundries are located or where the most skilled machinists live so instead of trying to run a foundry where electricity is expensive and then have a lovely product made by someone who doesn't entirely know what they are doing (and is slowed down by having to wait for other materials), it is much better to have the mine ship the ore to the foundry located next to cheap hydro power, which then ships the metal to the machinists who make the highest quality thing in the shortest time. Whoops we destroyed the planet for all future generations but at least we made our stock holders really rich 
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Mustached Demon posted:By the way, SNAP's the single greatest ROI of any government expenditure. I'm not sure how this fails to resonate with the right, given their obsession with fiscal efficiency. How can people be so loving obsessed with who deserves what that they'll shoot themselves in the foot by cutting the most beneficial public services, just to make sure that someone who doesn't 'deserve help' won't get it? I mean, never mind the nettle patch of trying to determine who deserves something....
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Whoops we destroyed the planet for all future generations but at least we made our stock holders really rich the invisible hand of the free market will lift us out of the oceans
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mcmagic posted:Right Wing Jews (there aren't many of them and they are probably the worst group of people in america) hate progressive jews MUCH more than the KKK and white supremacists. It's almost like politics trumps ethnicity sometimes.
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Well technically orders can be refused if the order giver is ordering something illegal or is clearly out of his mind.
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zxqv8 posted:the nettle patch of trying to determine who deserves something.... I'll take "The Left" for 400 Alex
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703 posted:Signed up to get info in VA and all I got was an email saying "let's send Tim Kane a virtual thank you card w/ your name on it!" and "please donate money". Great. One of the best ways to get involved is to attend meetings of your local Democratic Club. Or, if you don't have local clubs in Virginia you can contact your county-level Democratic Party and they should have local meetings once a month. This represents the bottom rung of the party system and is (in my opinion) the best way to meet people who can point you in the right direction. The state parties I've found tend to be larger and more impersonal.
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zxqv8 posted:I'm not sure how this fails to resonate with the right, given their obsession with fiscal efficiency. They aren't particularly concerned with efficiency, they're obsessed with 'waste', which is a radically different thing. It doesn't matter if you're super efficient about doing something they don't care about; and the most aggressive budget-slasher still within the GOP's overton window is still totally cool with the F-22.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:the invisible hand of the free market will lift us out of the oceans The invisible hand of the markets is what powers evolution. Having been boxed out of the ocean markets by voracious predators, the mutant land whales moved onto the shores to find new opportunities and tap new innovative market disruptors. zxqv8 posted:I'm not sure how this fails to resonate with the right, given their obsession with fiscal efficiency. lol fiscal efficiency. The right wing in the US doesn't care about fiscal efficiency, they care about dismantling the social safety net. For the regular humans that want to dismantle it because of "fraud" it's for the same reason they want to beat up someone that pretended to be poor to get $5 from them: they feel tricked. That's it.
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deathbysnusnu posted:On the hilariously off chance he's actually convicted I can already guarantee Trump's first pardon. Presidential Pardons cannot be used for these types of convictions. It can only be used when someone breaks federal law. You can't be pardoned by the President for violating state laws.
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mcmagic posted:https://thinkprogress.org/the-growing-smear-campaign-against-keith-ellison-233e16fab864 Well, we were expecting this, really. We will see how it plays out. In the worst case scenario, Trump repealing the ACA and medicare will lead to all his supporters dying of disease and poor medical coverage in 4 years so we'll win by default.
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Hollismason posted:Presidential Pardons cannot be used for these types of convictions. It can only be used when someone breaks federal law. You can't be pardoned by the President for violating state laws. I checked with the AG. He said it was constitutional, the most constitutional. He's been pardoned, ok! Bigly!
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Uh, I'm not sure if this is a funny anecdote or the early stages of a coup d'etat.
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Hollismason posted:Presidential Pardons cannot be used for these types of convictions. It can only be used when someone breaks federal law. You can't be pardoned by the President for violating state laws. yeah but the Trump Administration is going to run on Wile E. Coyote physics and he doesn't know that
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Squinty posted:Uh, I'm not sure if this is a funny anecdote or the early stages of a coup d'etat. A funny anecdoate, hopefully. Otherwise, all my doom saying will be true and we will be under a military dictatorship.
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Squinty posted:Uh, I'm not sure if this is a funny anecdote or the early stages of a coup d'etat. As much as I am seriously entertaining whether military dictatorship might be preferable to Trump, it wouldn't happen for the same reason the coup in Turkey failed. The generals may be anti Trump, but everyone who would actually pick up a rifle is MAGA full stop.
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Squinty posted:Uh, I'm not sure if this is a funny anecdote or the early stages of a coup d'etat. That's fine we proven we can't handle making choices, the military can't do any worse.
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