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HorseRenoir posted:The ACLU said that they've received more support this week than in the past 100 years That makes me happy. I donated more than I probably should have since I was worried people would forget about them. Still worth it. 
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:They employ David Frum This election broke Frum. He's still probably a republican hack but he loathes Trump.
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readingatwork posted:Hey there buddy. Did you know that the reason our democracy is so dysfunctional is because we made it too democratic? This is why I hate neoliberals.
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BarbarianElephant posted:Tell me what's good then. What magazines should I read? Jacobin.
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iospace posted:This election broke Frum. He's still probably a republican hack but he loathes Trump.
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And yeah I already put this in the election thread but everyone needs to read this because good lordquote:In politics, much like anything else, victory has a thousand fathers and defeat is an orphan. A senior official from Clinton’s campaign noted that they did have a large staff presence in Michigan and Wisconsin (200 and 180 people respectively) while also stressing that one of the reasons they didn’t do more was, in part, because of psychological games they were playing with the Trump campaign. They recognized that Michigan, for example, was a vulnerable state and felt that if they could keep Trump away ― by acting overly confident about their chances ― they would win it by a small margin and with a marginal resource allocation.
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iospace posted:This election broke Frum. He's still probably a republican hack but he loathes Trump. The neocons all loathe Trump, they spent decades scheming over an imperial Presidency that can impose their order across the whole world and just when they're so close to their thousand-year Reich they can taste it some jerk shows up and steals their totalitarian executive branch and tosses out their supervillain plot to take over the planet without a second glance. There is no level on which they are motivated by decency, here.
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Crazy Ted posted:And yeah I already put this in the election thread but everyone needs to read this because good lord this is the dumbest loving thing I have ever read e: YOUR SUPERIOR RESOURCES ARE YOUR BIGGEST loving ADVANTAGE IN THE CAMPAIGN SDFSDFDSFL:KJDSLFKJ
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Crazy Ted posted:And yeah I already put this in the election thread but everyone needs to read this because good lord 
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Crazy Ted posted:And yeah I already put this in the election thread but everyone needs to read this because good lord NTH DIMENSIONAL CHESS
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Cup Runneth Over posted:NTH DIMENSIONAL CHESS This was 12th-dimensional chess
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Crazy Ted posted:We need a new dimension for this, because 11th isn't high enough. 45th-dimensional backgammon
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I swear to loving god if there are actual, literal camps I hope I have the courage to riot until poo poo changes. loving hell.
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Cup Runneth Over posted:45th-dimensional backgammon
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readingatwork posted:Hey there buddy. Did you know that the reason our democracy is so dysfunctional is because we made it too democratic? They raise a good argument: The insane thing got a case of insanity.
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Nov 17, 2016 04:45
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Also if there is a Muslim registration list, then I feel like I should put my name out of it in solidarity. gently caress.
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Kobayashi posted:I swear to loving god if there are actual, literal camps I hope I have the courage to riot until poo poo changes. loving hell. There has been an internment camp full of innocent Muslims for like 15 years now
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Turns out every single liberal moving to San Francisco didn't work out too well for electoral-college based democracy.
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TheBigAristotle posted:I know it's hardly original but this fucker hasn't even taken the oath yet and he's got people around him referencing the loving Japanese internment camps as precedent. 
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Unormal posted:Turns out every single liberal moving to San Francisco didn't work out too well for electoral-college based democracy.
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achillesforever6 posted:I was playing basketball with my dad's friends and some guys I went to Catholic school with; one of them was our public high school's Class President for the Young Republicans and he was trying to assure me that Mike Pence would have learned from his mistakes of all the awful dumb evil poo poo he did in Indiana and wouldn't pursue it again. I just sighed and "I hope you are right." And I hope he is right (he isn't) for the sake of one our mutual friend's gay brother. God everyone I know in this town is conservative as gently caress. What mistakes, that stuff got him the position of Vice President of the United States of America
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Condiv posted:he said he's gonna work with trump on stuff like improving infrastructure, etc. and will raise hell if trump doesn't keep his campaign promises Actually it's dumb as hell If Trump gets to enact all the good parts of his platform that help people, Trump gets the credit for those things ZombieApostate posted:Anybody know where you can find Democratic voter turnout for 2000 or 2004 and 2016? I'd like to see what the comparison looks like when you aren't comparing Hillary to a statistical anomaly. Her popular vote number right now is about on par with Bush in 2004, who got 12 million more votes than he did in 2000. Incidentally, Bush in 2004 is the current record-holder for Republican popular vote, as McCain, Romney and Trump all got fewer votes than he did. Random rear end in a top hat posted:On the one hand, I want to believe that appointing Bernie and Warren as directors of Outreach sends the message that they actually realize they screwed up and need to give the left a greater voice. If the DNC intended to give the left a greater voice they would probably have given Bernie a role with actual power rather than "Head of Marketing". A Director of Outreach writes fundraising emails, not policy proposals
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Kobayashi posted:I swear to loving god if there are actual, literal camps I hope I have the courage to riot until poo poo changes. loving hell. How to riot: grab brick, throw. There's also pretty good guides out there on how to neutralize poo poo like tear gas.
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SeANMcBAY posted:That makes me happy. I donated more than I probably should have since I was worried people would forget about them. Still worth it. I'm really happy to have the card in my wallet. Coming up on 10 year  My wife and I decided that when the bullshit GOP supply-side tax cut goes through we are taking every dime we "save" and plowing it into the ACLU and Planned Parenthood.
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Main Paineframe posted:Actually it's dumb as hell It's nice sometimes to imply you care more about good things happening to people than someone else getting credit for causing those good things, especially when there is zero possibility of those good things actually happening.
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Mustached Demon posted:How to riot: grab brick, throw. Yeah but at the end of the day, I fear I'm probably too much of a pussy to actually do it.
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Nov 17, 2016 04:55
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Kobayashi posted:Yeah but at the end of the day, I fear I'm probably too much of a pussy to actually do it. Be like me, and assume you're already dead! Then, you are truly free. Now who wants to bash the fash?
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Pollyanna posted:Be like me, and assume you're already dead! Then, you are truly free. Ahh the Jem'Hadar philosophy's solid.
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Kobayashi posted:Yeah but at the end of the day, I fear I'm probably too much of a pussy to actually do it. It's OK if you don't have the stomach for brick-throwing, all you have to do is stand in the same crowd as a brick-thrower and you'll be given full credit by the cops.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:It's nice sometimes to imply you care more about good things happening to people than someone else getting credit for causing those good things, especially when there is zero possibility of those good things actually happening. You know what else would be a good thing? Trump losing in 2020. And that's not gonna happen if he gets to pass the kinds of jobs and infrastructure programs that Democrats couldn't.
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Main Paineframe posted:You know what else would be a good thing? Trump losing in 2020. And that's not gonna happen if he gets to pass the kinds of jobs and infrastructure programs that Democrats couldn't.
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His infrastructure program is just tax breaks for corporations and toll roads with some extra pipelines being built etc.. He's not gonna be like " Guess what we're gonna be building all these new bridges etc..." What I think will happen is Republicans won't get rid of filibuster Trump wants to pass some ungodly spending program Republicans wont commit to spending money or some of them do but some don't Dems help get a infrastructure bill through Dems filibuster and play obstructionist all through out forever and ever
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Main Paineframe posted:You know what else would be a good thing? Trump losing in 2020. And that's not gonna happen if he gets to pass the kinds of jobs and infrastructure programs that Democrats couldn't. wait have you actually started taking all those 'lol what if Trump turns out to be a good President and really does make America great again, wouldn't that be craaaaazy?' jokes seriously? Here's what happens if Trump tries to pass the kinds of infrastructure programs Democrats couldn't: the Republicans who control congress and were opposed to those on principle even before they got tied to a guy they all hate don't fund them. Sanders and the Democrats get to look good for at least appearing to not be petulant babies who'd sabotage America's economy to advance their own political careers, at no cost, the legislative Republicans get to keep on truckin' doing absolutely nothing like usual, Trump and the whole anti-establishment uprising he represents get egg on their faces and in 2024 the Republicans nominate another Rubio-type technocrat, their base demoralized into renewed compliance. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Hollismason posted:His infrastructure program is just tax breaks for corporations and toll roads with some extra pipelines being built etc.. He's not gonna be like " Guess what we're gonna be building all these new bridges etc..."
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:wait have you actually started taking all those 'lol what if Trump turns out to be a good President and really does make America great again, wouldn't that be craaaaazy?' jokes seriously? The bright beautiful hope of an America that still exists in 2024. You know? The Nazis were only around for twelve years. I guess there's always hope.
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What worries me the most is what the red states are going to do while everyone is focusing on Trump. TX already has something called the "Women's Privacy Act" as their top priority (spoiler: it's a bathroom bill). Georgia is working on legislature to limit where women can wear burqas (They say it's just for driving, but the language is vague enough to apply to any public property). God know what else is gonna happen in the next 4 years, and we sure as poo poo know the courts won't stop it.
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Spaced God posted:What worries me the most is what the red states are going to do while everyone is focusing on Trump. TX already has something called the "Women's Privacy Act" as their top priority (spoiler: it's a bathroom bill). Georgia is working on legislature to limit where women can wear burqas (They say it's just for driving, but the language is vague enough to apply to any public property). God know what else is gonna happen in the next 4 years, and we sure as poo poo know the courts won't stop it. Banning burqas for drivers? Saudi Arabia would approve. Women shouldn't drive, after all.
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like the guys who believe in slashing social expenditures like the pope believes in God are not going to suddenly turn more fiscally liberal than the Democrats to please a RINO who's hijacked their birthright and used it to make the party look like a pack of assholes
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Hollismason posted:His infrastructure program is just tax breaks for corporations and toll roads with some extra pipelines being built etc.. He's not gonna be like " Guess what we're gonna be building all these new bridges etc..." Here's what actually happens: Republicans get rid of filibuster. Trump wants to pass a "make america great again" bill, tells congress to fill in the details. Every insane Republican pipe dream from the past thousand years gets tacked. Then every hateful, awful, humanity-loving rider gets added as an amendment. Dems get rounded up into Bannon's internment camps. A cold, lifeless Earth only warms again when the sun expands to swallow the inner solar system.
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Hollismason posted:His infrastructure program is just tax breaks for corporations and toll roads with some extra pipelines being built etc.. He's not gonna be like " Guess what we're gonna be building all these new bridges etc..." I keep hearing that the plan is little more than pushing public-private partnerships to invest in infrastructure. Which means toll roads to move suburbanites around metropolitan areas, backed by federal loan guarantees. And living in an area where such plans have been heavily pushed and have gone in holy poo poo do people goddamn loathe public private partnership toll roads. Side note the whole Trump transition is hilarious. The constant shuffle of "X is a favorite" followed later in the day by "X has left the campaign, now Y is the favorite!" Is just amazing. Shifty Pony fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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