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fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

:yeah:

Cool dildo gangtag though. It's so long :eyepop:

Yeah, I dig it. It's pretty rad. Thanks whoever got it.

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white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Lightning Knight posted:

Ideally we don't run on "your old jobs aren't coming back." We run on "we will give you jobs" and emphasize infrastructure building and unions while leaving out that inevitably some of isn't going to be manual labor oriented.

And so much of these jobs could be environmental restoration jobs that would be a win-win for everyone.

Like, there's ALOT of work that needs to be done. Lets give these people some good ol socialism :911:

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties

I like the little parenthetical dumbed-down explanations of the cases. The fact that the ACLU is basically insulting Trump by (correctly) assuming that he needs these explanations will go right over Trump's head.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

fits my needs posted:

Yeah, I dig it. It's pretty rad. Thanks whoever got it.

Are you ready to come out of your salt cave now, lil' dawg? Wanna talk about how Bernie sanders is cool and good and socialism is cool and good?

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



https://twitter.com/OlympiaJoe/status/799058101999521792
Has anyone brought up the Trump senator who wants to make protesting a felony because it's terrorism?

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

you are quite thoroughly insane, median incomes in any major metropolitan area are a multiple of what they are in cow country.

I'm really not interested in another NYT-grade whine about how $400k/yr is not really rich, really, because Brooklyn has a high cost of living

uh im not sure how posting median incomes of metropolitan areas proves much about people who live in cities, you can find districts where the median income is $30k in the bronx

why it's almost like you're being deliberately sloppy with statistics to support a weak argument based on an internet grudge, but nobody's ever done that itt before so it would be unprecedented. the urban poor - they don't exist until they're convenient for my argument

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/OlympiaJoe/status/799058101999521792
Has anyone brought up the Trump senator who wants to make protesting a felony because it's terrorism?

Does that include banks like Wells Fargo?

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Are you ready to come out of your salt cave now, lil' dawg? Wanna talk about how Bernie sanders is cool and good and socialism is cool and good?

I will accept Bernie's help, but I am still disaffected with how he turned off a lot of voters in important states by repeatedly accusing Hillary for shilling for Wall Street.This made her a much easier target for being accused of shadiness and EMAILSEMAILSEMAILS by Trump after the primaries. But it only contributed to her loss. Hillary's campaign is at fault in addition to Comey's emails, Russian cyber espionage actions, etc.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich
"all people who live in cities are rich heartless hypocrites" pleads man desperately trying to argue for an end to generalizing rural voters

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

fits my needs posted:

I will accept Bernie's help, but I am still disaffected with how he turned off a lot of voters in important states by repeatedly accusing Hillary for shilling for Wall Street.This made her a much easier target for being accused of shadiness and EMAILSEMAILSEMAILS by Trump after the primaries. But it only contributed to her loss. Hillary's campaign is at fault in addition to Comey's emails, Russian cyber espionage actions, etc.

Progress.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

boner confessor posted:

"all people who live in cities are rich heartless hypocrites" pleads man desperately trying to argue for an end to generalizing rural voters

Ugh

It really bothers you that we think these people should have economic prospects huh

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Also what would make Trump fire Pence?

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Grouchio posted:

Also what would make Trump fire Pence?

Can the president do that? Or you mean before he's sworn in?

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Eventually we're going to see people trotting around in denim overalls like Nazis in lederhosen because the myth of the noble and ideal rural life is the precursor to demonizing cities and later depopulating metropolitan communities for made-up treasonous sympathies.

Schmeichy
Apr 22, 2007

2spooky4u


Smellrose

Grouchio posted:

Also what would make Trump fire Pence?

Maybe if he betrayed Trump's family in some way. A narcissist hates disrespect.

Crazy Ted
Jul 29, 2003

FAUXTON posted:

Eventually we're going to see people trotting around in denim overalls like Nazis in lederhosen because the myth of the noble and ideal rural life is the precursor to demonizing cities and later depopulating metropolitan communities for made-up treasonous sympathies.
:raise:

Schmeichy
Apr 22, 2007

2spooky4u


Smellrose

FAUXTON posted:

Eventually we're going to see people trotting around in denim overalls like Nazis in lederhosen because the myth of the noble and ideal rural life is the precursor to demonizing cities and later depopulating metropolitan communities for made-up treasonous sympathies.

https://youtu.be/29Mg6Gfh9Co

Red and Black
Sep 5, 2011

fits my needs posted:

I will accept Bernie's help, but I am still disaffected with how he turned off a lot of voters in important states by repeatedly accusing Hillary for shilling for Wall Street.
Hillary Clinton did shill for Wall Street

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Schmeichy posted:

Maybe if he betrayed Trump's family in some way. A narcissist hates disrespect.
Pence and Priebus working too closely with Ryan, who Trump hates, could also set him off maybe?

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Chomskyan posted:

Hillary Clinton did shill for Wall Street

Okay, but Donald Trump is president.

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/OlympiaJoe/status/799058101999521792
Has anyone brought up the Trump senator who wants to make protesting a felony because it's terrorism?

Wait you guys dont already have this law? Suck it America, we did it first! :smug:

For those who dont know, on his way out the door our last glorious leader passed a bill saying the RCMP can label you an "economic terrorist" for protesting or impeding on something like, say, an oil pipeline being built. :canada:

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/OlympiaJoe/status/799058101999521792
Has anyone brought up the Trump senator who wants to make protesting a felony because it's terrorism?

I love that there's a bit in there about it doesn't apply to strikes and picketing. How can you protect those forms of protest and not others?

Also, love the bit at the end where he goes all "George Soros".

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


fits my needs posted:

I will accept Bernie's help, but I am still disaffected with how he turned off a lot of voters in important states by repeatedly accusing Hillary for shilling for Wall Street.This made her a much easier target for being accused of shadiness and EMAILSEMAILSEMAILS by Trump after the primaries. But it only contributed to her loss. Hillary's campaign is at fault in addition to Comey's emails, Russian cyber espionage actions, etc.

Uh, excuse me, sharing accounts is bannable

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



fits my needs posted:

Lol, it's cool Bernie will save all us Muslims he's supporting one for leading the DNC so apparently it's all good! I'm just a stupid minority who is "broke brain" and a "loving idiot" according to the Bernie Bros in this thread. Not too much of a difference between you folks' language and that of Trumps supporters.

"this idiot jew couldn't possibly be bothered to help me in a scenario where a facist government is trying to make a religious minority a scapegoat for economic problems" - a smart man

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

Young Freud posted:

I love that there's a bit in there about it doesn't apply to strikes and picketing. How can you protect those forms of protest and not others?

Also, love the bit at the end where he goes all "George Soros".
It's (((George Soros))).

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Young Freud posted:

I love that there's a bit in there about it doesn't apply to strikes and picketing. How can you protect those forms of protest and not others?

Also, love the bit at the end where he goes all "George Soros".

Wonder how he feels about the Bundy hicks 🤔

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Business Gorillas posted:

"this idiot jew couldn't possibly be bothered to help me in a scenario where a facist government is trying to make a religious minority a scapegoat for economic problems" - a smart man

That is pretty anti Semitic and super gross, man.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Young Freud posted:

I love that there's a bit in there about it doesn't apply to strikes and picketing. How can you protect those forms of protest and not others?

you're acting like strikes and picketing will be a thing once the right to work laws start rolling in :toot:

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

Business Gorillas posted:

you're acting like strikes and picketing will be a thing once the right to work laws start rolling in :toot:

TBF, this is only Washington state. The chance of this bill getting passed with a Democratic controlled state house, Dem. Lt. Governor, and Democrat Governor is pretty slim. Even Republican control of the state senate that Ericksen is in isn't firm: they've got a majority coalition with an independent Democrat that has an unpredictable voting history as well as have vacant seat.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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It would go down in flames the moment it was subjected to a 1st Amendment challenge and everyone knows it; it's red meat.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000
Anyone who thinks the Democrats should work with Trump on anything so that they can take some of the credit for any good that comes of it hasn't been paying attention to who Trump is, and is a loving idiot. I include Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi in this group. If you don't think the Republicans will be able to effortlessly pin any failure of these programs on the Democrats whilst simultaneously convincing people than any good that comes of them is in spite of the Democrats, then you haven't been paying attention to American politics for the last, oh, thirty years or so. Also if you think that Republicans in Congress actually give a poo poo about spending or the deficit outside of killing programs that were created by Democrats then just lo-loving-l. They will happily rubber stamp whatever insane tax-breaks-for-construction-companies infrastructure bill Trump finally manages to get someone on his team to write, and whether they cooperate with this shitshow or not, Democrats will take the blame when everyone is paying outrageous tolls on their way to work each morning. That's going to happen anyway - but cooperating makes it easier.

Also, obviously, there is the fact that cooperating with Trump normalizes Trump, and you don't loving normalize a goddamn fascist who just appointed a white supremacist as his chief strategist. Who is using Japanese internment camps as precedent for whatever medieval poo poo he's got in the works. And so on. Like, if you're talking about keeping the Democrats on board with identity politics and standing up for social justice, then this is the exact god drat opposite of that, even if what you're compromising on has nothing to do directly with social justice. Because it has everything to do indirectly with social justice because the people you're smiling and shaking hands with are the antithesis of all that.

So working on an infrastructure bill with a bunch a white nationalists is a bad idea, guys. Even if the infrastructure bill is actually not that bad (it will be pretty lovely though).

When the bill comes up, Democrats need to find anything wrong with it and scream that the Republicans are loving over workers with it. Because they will be. They need to make that the centerpiece of the 2018 midterms. I expected the Democrats in the Senate to elect Chuck Schumer as minority leader on the basis of him being Mr. Fundraiser apparently, but if the strategy he is outlining is the one they're actually going to implemented (it is) then we are hosed (we are hosed).

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/16/pelosi-officially-running-house-minority-leader/

:frogout:

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Pelosi is fine. She's very good at what she does which is being a House whip, and I don't see any challengers doing any better than her.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


fits my needs posted:

That is pretty anti Semitic and super gross, man.

that poster is a jew, hth

Grouchio
Aug 31, 2014

Kilroy posted:

Anyone who thinks the Democrats should work with Trump on anything so that they can take some of the credit for any good that comes of it hasn't been paying attention to who Trump is, and is a loving idiot. I include Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi in this group. If you don't think the Republicans will be able to effortlessly pin any failure of these programs on the Democrats whilst simultaneously convincing people than any good that comes of them is in spite of the Democrats, then you haven't been paying attention to American politics for the last, oh, thirty years or so. Also if you think that Republicans in Congress actually give a poo poo about spending or the deficit outside of killing programs that were created by Democrats then just lo-loving-l. They will happily rubber stamp whatever insane tax-breaks-for-construction-companies infrastructure bill Trump finally manages to get someone on his team to write, and whether they cooperate with this shitshow or not, Democrats will take the blame when everyone is paying outrageous tolls on their way to work each morning. That's going to happen anyway - but cooperating makes it easier.

Also, obviously, there is the fact that cooperating with Trump normalizes Trump, and you don't loving normalize a goddamn fascist who just appointed a white supremacist as his chief strategist. Who is using Japanese internment camps as precedent for whatever medieval poo poo he's got in the works. And so on. Like, if you're talking about keeping the Democrats on board with identity politics and standing up for social justice, then this is the exact god drat opposite of that, even if what you're compromising on has nothing to do directly with social justice. Because it has everything to do indirectly with social justice because the people you're smiling and shaking hands with are the antithesis of all that.

So working on an infrastructure bill with a bunch a white nationalists is a bad idea, guys. Even if the infrastructure bill is actually not that bad (it will be pretty lovely though).

When the bill comes up, Democrats need to find anything wrong with it and scream that the Republicans are loving over workers with it. Because they will be. They need to make that the centerpiece of the 2018 midterms. I expected the Democrats in the Senate to elect Chuck Schumer as minority leader on the basis of him being Mr. Fundraiser apparently, but if the strategy he is outlining is the one they're actually going to implemented (it is) then we are hosed (we are hosed).
Are you asking if we are willing to be detained and shot ourselves? Instead of being patient? Because there's not much I as an individual in college can do.

Mulva
Sep 13, 2011
It's about time for my once per decade ban for being a consistently terrible poster.
Considering how pointless their jobs are, and how little the public thinks of them, and how much less money they make than high powered lobbyists, I am continually shocked by how much bullshit politicians will put themselves through to maintain their positions.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Mulva posted:

Considering how pointless their jobs are, and how little the public thinks of them, and how much less money they make than high powered lobbyists, I am continually shocked by how much bullshit politicians will put themselves through to maintain their positions.

Most politicians actually care about and believe in things.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000
welp, nevermind

Kilroy fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Nov 17, 2016

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Look at Paul Ryan. The fucker actually believes Ayn Rand.

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citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




Tight Booty Shorts posted:

Are you ready to come out of your salt cave now, lil' dawg? Wanna talk about how Bernie sanders is cool and good and socialism is cool and good?

You done with bit this yet? It's getting a bit too obvious.

Mustached Demon posted:

Look at Paul Ryan. The fucker actually believes Ayn Rand.

And killed off earmarks yet again. You know, something that would actually get Congress to reach across the aisle.

Mulva posted:

Considering how pointless their jobs are, and how little the public thinks of them, and how much less money they make than high powered lobbyists, I am continually shocked by how much bullshit politicians will put themselves through to maintain their positions.

I recall one of the arguments for increased Congressional pay is literally so the lobbyists rolling in would have to work a little harder to bribe them. We have this strange strain in the American psyche of politicians not being professionals but stepping away from their "real jobs" for a bit to represent the people. Part of the Cincinnatus myth built around the Founding Fathers.

citybeatnik fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Nov 17, 2016

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