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Lord_Magmar posted:Funnily enough DotA 2 actually does have a reason for everyone to fight everyone else, being able to respawn and why the creeps exist. The Ancients are massive magical intelligences from the dawn of time that were told by the other massive magical intelligences to stop their pissing contest, didn't do so and were sealed inside a moon together for all eternity. 
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braum punching a mountain to death is dumb, i said it
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Nov 17, 2016 07:43
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All lore in a fighting man game is dumb Guys I really need to know why LeBron James dunks so hard, what is his backstory and motivation when he's taking it to the rack
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Nov 17, 2016 07:48
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Teikanmi posted:All lore in a fighting man game is dumb spoken like a person who doesn't begin to know or understand barkley shut up and jam
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Nov 17, 2016 07:50
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braum: - punches mountains to death - has a mustache - smells like bacon - wears ironic mustache shirts - loves reddit
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Nov 17, 2016 07:52
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The one piece of lore I remember is that someone was basically a rogue nazi weapons scientist or something? Singed maybe? Just gassin' Zaun or whatever for shits and giggles. Oh and that the League has like, seventeen serial killers in it.
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Nov 17, 2016 08:01
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I figured dumping the Summoner lore was a prelude to dimestore fantasy novels or an MMO or a phone game or something, but instead we got nothing 
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Nov 17, 2016 08:05
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What about the yordle robot game, that's a thing
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Nov 17, 2016 08:09
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why is the new client so small
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Nov 17, 2016 08:25
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One day, Tryndamere's parents were killed by mysterious cloaked strangers, he is now the Barbarian King, The End. One day, a wizard drowned in a swamp, he is now Karthus, The End.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:One day, Tryndamere's parents were killed by mysterious cloaked strangers, he is now the Barbarian King, The End. But what would happen if they kiss?
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Philip Rivers posted:why is the new client so small more importantly why is there no way to lower the volume of champ select quotes. also there is a window size option in the settings
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Nov 17, 2016 09:19
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I thought this sudden interest in lore was just Riot trying to backtrack and establish a story and worldbuilding so they could pump out other titles under the same name? I stopped playing some time before the end of season out of boredom and I have only messed about in customs to test out champs in the jungle. Can't say I really want to play right now, especially with Kha'Zix being insanely good and Rengar being even more feast/famine than he has been in previous iterations. Nice to see that Nidalee got inadvertently curb-stomped by the jungle changes though. Has anyone got opinions on the jungle plants from actually playing? They seem pretty poo poo to be honest. Anyone tried out new LeBlanc?
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Nov 17, 2016 09:30
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anti-magic posted:Has anyone got opinions on the jungle plants from actually playing? They seem pretty poo poo to be honest. For how little they truly affect anything, they might as well not be there. Only real uses I've ever gotten out of them was moving 0.5 seconds faster to the next jungle camp, checking dragon/baron pit and getting some health back if the health fruit spawns on my side of the river. The jungle camp buffs had a lot bigger impact on the game, especially the wolf ghost and the raptor buff. The fruits are just kinda there and maybe there is occasionally some situation where they might have an impact but probably not.
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Nov 17, 2016 09:42
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Taitale posted:more importantly why is there no way to lower the volume of champ select quotes. i looked at the faq to see if i wanted to install the client and it specifically said that adjusting settings was coming in a later update. thats not a big deal tho, that's a feature most people don't expect from software.
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Nov 17, 2016 09:54
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so the last flex ranked placement games I got two afks, 1 afks, and 1 feeder. If I completely did poo poo on my placements, do I get stuck at bronze 5 or what when pre-season ends or what?
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Nov 17, 2016 10:23
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welcome to elo hell b*tch
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Nov 17, 2016 10:32
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Tired Moritz posted:so the last flex ranked placement games I got two afks, 1 afks, and 1 feeder. If I completely did poo poo on my placements, do I get stuck at bronze 5 or what when pre-season ends or what? The start of the 2017 season comes with yet another reset and yet another set of placement matches, so don't sweat it.
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Lord_Magmar posted:Funnily enough DotA 2 actually does have a reason for everyone to fight everyone else, being able to respawn and why the creeps exist. The Ancients are massive magical intelligences from the dawn of time that were told by the other massive magical intelligences to stop their pissing contest, didn't do so and were sealed inside a moon together for all eternity. Also being in the league is very personally rewarding- the league was totally willing to bribe people with their resources, either straight up payouts (Sivir) or lending their massive magical research staff (Ahri) or even magical power/alliance (Morgana and Kayle). IP used to be an in-lore currency that was basically worth more than money because you could use it tp get things you couldn't normally buy- old Twitch references wanting to use his winnings to research how he came to be to make more rats like him. Aside from that, people joined for nationalist reasons (Garen, Talon, Swain, J4, etc), wanting a challenge (Jax, Wukong), fame (Draven), because magic forced them (Ezreal), or because the league straight up captured them (Fiddlesticks, Nocturne, Brand, Xerath). Also popular was "no one knows why!!! Mystery agenda!!!" such as Hecarim. Since the league was the most powerful entity in the setting and was willing to pay whatever to recruit people, it was super easy to justify anyone joining. The "why are you here" lore only fell apart with Elise, who's entire lore was about tricking people into going to the Shadow Isles with her so she could feed them to Vilemaw for eternal life and youth. This required hiding she was a horrible spiderlady, so joining an organisation that put her spider powers on display would be... unwise. If Riot had bothered to explain it though it would have been an easy justification- the league would have helped her research Vilemaw, and probably would even just provide her sacrifices, they were a little dickish sometimes. The reason they fake as being why they deleted it was the legit problem of no one's story can advance (Graves always is failing to get revenge, etc) and everyone has to awkwardly be around simultaneously. Given that league is already summoning some fake rear end undying version of people there's literally no reason they couldn't be just summoning dead people from the past or whatever, so that's not the real reason. The real reason is Riot was annoyed that they had to end all their crappy lore bits with "and then they joined the league" because actually writing their character into their setting was too much work when they could just vomit up random OCs they made up when they were twelve.
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rabidsquid posted:i looked at the faq to see if i wanted to install the client and it specifically said that adjusting settings was coming in a later update. thats not a big deal tho, that's a feature most people don't expect from software. The thing that gets me is there are settings that cover all the other sound/music in the client, just not the quotes. There isn't even a toggle for them.
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Nov 17, 2016 11:44
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yeah but they made it so TF was a good guy all along and that was lame.
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Nov 17, 2016 11:53
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Plants are fine I guess. There have been times I've used the explosion plant to juke someone and escape with my life over a wall, or knocked them back to create enough distance. The vision plant is fine, it sees stuff and getting the ones in the enemy jungle definitely helps with a bit of vision control. The health one I never see anyone ever use unless they just won a fight and don't want to back. Overall though, they are a lot less fun and strategic than smite bonuses and can honestly just be ignored about 95% of the time except the vision one.
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the only bit of lore that's ever stuck with me is when it's heavily implied rammus utterly demolished a temple while sleepspinning
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Nov 17, 2016 14:35
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This is the only bit of lore I know or particularly care about. 
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Kashuno posted:Plants are fine I guess. There have been times I've used the explosion plant to juke someone and escape with my life over a wall, or knocked them back to create enough distance. The vision plant is fine, it sees stuff and getting the ones in the enemy jungle definitely helps with a bit of vision control. The health one I never see anyone ever use unless they just won a fight and don't want to back. Overall though, they are a lot less fun and strategic than smite bonuses and can honestly just be ignored about 95% of the time except the vision one. I think the blue ones are a solid replacement for the raptor buff since it reveals all wards for 10 seconds. Let's you know if it's worth ganking for your teammates that refuse to buy control wards. Red is whatever, I might get one good use out of them every other game. The healing fruit seems superfluous although one time I got a kill because someone stepped on a fruit and I caught up to them thanks to the slow.
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I use the bomb plants to get to my camps faster over walls, I don't take the health, and the vision plant's animation goes off on the map to the entire enemy team so it completely ruins your chances of ganking for thirty seconds or so. So that's funny.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:12
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The plants feel pretty pointless, like they're in that zone where something can only be grossly overpowered and annoying or not even there. I'm still not keen on them activating from autoattacks
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Nov 17, 2016 18:08
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Plants are just frigging dumb. They're not interesting in any way except maybe the bombs allowing for unusual ganks and that's random enough it feels like luck rather than a player being smart.
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Mostly I've been kicking the plants over on purpose so they can't dick my team over later instead of using them how they should be used.
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Nov 17, 2016 18:37
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The vision plant is dumb because it tells the entire enemy team where you are. If I see some idiot hit it and tell everyone he's at top golems I'm going to go murder his bot lane and take dragon.
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Nov 17, 2016 18:38
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you shouldn't really touch it unless you're at a disadvantage and you're trying to check baron/dragon pit - although the other team has probably already smacked it to take it away from you
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Nov 17, 2016 18:47
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I played a game last night in which my mid and bot lanes (tristana support!) when 5-41. Then my top laner went 2-16 in the next game.
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Methanar posted:The vision plant is dumb because it tells the entire enemy team where you are. If I see some idiot hit it and tell everyone he's at top golems I'm going to go murder his bot lane and take dragon. Yeah I've avoided a bunch of ganks for people using them for no reason, it's like they haven't caught on to the rest of the map being able to see the pulse. The blast plants have felt kind of cool so far, I've used them in a couple combat situations. The heal plants have come up once or twice before a baron figth, I dunno so far the plants seem mostly okay to me. As a supp I think blast plants in particular are a good safety net to play around when warding more dangerous areas.
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stump collector posted:you shouldn't really touch it unless you're at a disadvantage and you're trying to check baron/dragon pit - although the other team has probably already smacked it to take it away from you The few times I've played, I've been the only one using it on either team, both as jungle or support. Does it reveal who uses it or just that it gets used?
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thelazyblank posted:The few times I've played, I've been the only one using it on either team, both as jungle or support. Does it reveal who uses it or just that it gets used? It just shows an air gust effect on the mini-map. It's pretty noticeable though. I still think they're a decent budget sweeper, especially once teams have begun grouping. It lets you clear wards around objectives safely and prevents the bush surprise garbage a lot of people try to pull when theyre ahead.
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Nov 17, 2016 19:06
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Plants are fun and don't really have much effect on the game so I say why not
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DK3-muV34UM plants gave us this and they belong in the game
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Nov 17, 2016 19:09
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I think the river regen plants actually have a pretty big effect, the rest of them are kind of w/e
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I feel like heal plants are going to be a pain in the rear end toplane once people get a better handle on spawns because they can shove up and then run off to river to get an unreasonable amount of health and mana back. For now though I feel like they're so unlikely to actually be there that no one bothers. Bounce fruit I like even if it's dumb. Vision plant is whatever, the sweep is nice for when you already control an area.
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that top lane thing doesnt bother me, lane control is a thing that matters and thats just a part of that
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