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Nov 17, 2016 15:34
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mcmagic posted:We don't hold democrats accountable in primaries. Because they're only accountable to their wealthiest constituents.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:35
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greatn posted:Please put all bad text in bold and all good text in italics Fixed that for you. In other news, any Trump supporter that works at a University or College is a self-defeating moron! http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/17/us/is-it-safe-foreign-students-consider-college-in-donald-trumps-us.html
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Nov 17, 2016 15:36
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BarbarianElephant posted:You can have influence on the Democratic party by turning up at local meetings and doing the work. Politics is run by those who turn up. In the meantime we need effective leadership now, and it looks like other than getting Keith Ellison as chair of the DNC, Bernie Sanders will not be doing much else than being chief PR bullshitter for Chuck Schumer. And Warren is great but she has no will to power so frankly she's not going to be effective either. I mean Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer are the apparent leaders of the party after this, the 2016 elections where Donald Trump was elected President.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:36
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greatn posted:Please put all bad text in bold and all good text in italics I just don't see what's wrong about saying "Hey, my voters are good people." It'd be political suicide to say otherwise, unless I'm misinterpting.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:36
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comingafteryouall posted:Fixed that for you. Behind a pay wall, would you kindly post the juicy bits
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Nov 17, 2016 15:36
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Actually it's run by donors and fundraising. Clinton raised and spent infinity more money than Trump. And lost.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:38
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Like it's starting to appear these fuckers actually think that now that "their base" sees what happens when they don't vote, they can just carry on with business as usual and expect the turnout that is their birthright in 2018. Literally as they're clucking about the hubris of Clinton they're playing the same drat game. We are so hosed.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:39
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Behind a pay wall, would you kindly post the juicy bits quote:Aman Kumar, 18, who is looking at universities in California, said, “In his campaign, he’s discriminating against Muslim and other brown and black people,” adding, “I’m thinking of applying to Canada.”
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Nov 17, 2016 15:41
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They want to help Trump build toll roads all over the place. Toll roads. They want to help build and take credit (blame) for toll roads. Except what will happen is the Republicans will get credit for the new jobs and people will shake their fist at the Democrats every time they pay the toll. We are turbo-hosed.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:41
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BarbarianElephant posted:Clinton raised and spent infinity more money than Trump. And lost. That was my loving point 
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Nov 17, 2016 15:42
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Kilroy posted:Like it's starting to appear these fuckers actually think that now that "their base" sees what happens when they don't vote, they can just carry on with business as usual and expect the turnout that is their birthright in 2018. Literally as they're clucking about the hubris of Clinton they're playing the same drat game. Welp, maybe they'll learn their lesson when the Republicans get a super majority and make a new amendment that makes all democrats terroists and has them all executed. / In all seriousness, it's only 6 days after the election. How did the Republicans respond only 6 or so days after Obama's first election?
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Nov 17, 2016 15:43
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Because they're only accountable to their wealthiest constituents. That's only because democrats don't vote in primaries the way republicans do.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:45
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Kilroy posted:They want to help Trump build toll roads all over the place. Toll roads. They want to help build and take credit (blame) for toll roads. If they're anything like the toll roads here in Texas they're going to be built and then the rights to the tolls will be sold to a third party for a lump sum up front.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:45
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:That was my loving point You said "Actually it's run by donors and fundraising." which is what Democrats used to think...and probably don't now. Clinton raised oodles of cash but doing so annoyed the voters because it seemed like you couldn't get the time of day from her without a $10,000 check. Meanwhile Trump raised little, spent little, and spent the time personally engaging with voters via his batshit crazy Twitter feed (free.)
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Nov 17, 2016 15:45
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BarbarianElephant posted:You said "Actually it's run by donors and fundraising." which is what Democrats used to think...and probably don't now. Clinton raised oodles of cash but doing so annoyed the voters because it seemed like you couldn't get the time of day from her without a $10,000 check. Meanwhile Trump raised little, spent little, and spent the time personally engaging with voters via his batshit crazy Twitter feed (free.) Yes mate, I'm aware of this
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Nov 17, 2016 15:46
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mcmagic posted:That's only because democrats don't vote in primaries the way republicans do. I wonder why
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Nov 17, 2016 15:46
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Trump is going to take office with mid 30s approval ratings and Schumer is apparently going to do everything he can to improve that lol.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:47
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Yes mate, I'm aware of this You kinda said the opposite. Remember sarcastic tone doesn't travel via the intertubes.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:49
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mcmagic posted:Trump is going to take office with mid 30s approval ratings and Schumer is apparently going to do everything he can to improve that lol. nobody can accuse him of not being a born team player
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Nov 17, 2016 15:49
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Covok posted:Welp, maybe they'll learn their lesson when the Republicans get a super majority and make a new amendment that makes all democrats terroists and has them all executed. God this language from the Dems is depressing. Are they seriously ready to roll over already? Goddamn.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:50
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BarbarianElephant posted:You kinda said the opposite. Remember sarcastic tone doesn't travel via the intertubes. Yes, it's called "ironic humor" 
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Nov 17, 2016 15:52
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Kilroy posted:In the meantime we need effective leadership now, and it looks like other than getting Keith Ellison as chair of the DNC, Bernie Sanders will not be doing much else than being chief PR bullshitter for Chuck Schumer. And Warren is great but she has no will to power so frankly she's not going to be effective either. I'm actually genuinely worried that their positions are nothing but lip service and we haven't really gotten anywhere.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:52
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FlamingLiberal posted:They immediately started strategizing on how to ruin him. You also had the formation of the Tea Party movement. Remember when we thought that Hillary was gonna fight for us
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Nov 17, 2016 15:52
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FlamingLiberal posted:They immediately started strategizing on how to ruin him. You also had the formation of the Tea Party movement. Oh, I see. So, we're hosed then? No surprise. Looks like we should just get used to having to go into old age with the shame that we couldn't stop the mass genocide of 12 million Muslims then. ---Democrats right now
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Nov 17, 2016 15:55
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FlamingLiberal posted:They immediately started strategizing on how to ruin him. You also had the formation of the Tea Party movement. The tea party got its start as an astroturf movement. I'm not sure that the Dems have it in them for that.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:56
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I just think it's hilarious how bad the Trumpstaffel are at not looking and sounding like fascists.
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Nov 17, 2016 15:56
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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/collaborating-with-donald-trump-is-doomed-to-fail.html This is so obvious that even centrist hacks like Jon Chait get it. Collaboration is a suicide pact.
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Nov 17, 2016 16:01
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I just think it's hilarious how bad the Trumpstaffel are at not looking and sounding like fascists. I wonder how much of that is people going "nawh they don't really mean it..."
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Nov 17, 2016 16:02
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Pollyanna posted:I'm actually genuinely worried that their positions are nothing but lip service and we haven't really gotten anywhere. these guys have been collaborating with whoever was in power and paying lip service to you their entire lives, been lavishly rewarded for it every step of the way, and you thought one bad election year would see their Damascene conversion to populist radicals? You're going to need to get them out of office if you want change.
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Nov 17, 2016 16:03
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Republican Super Majority: Objective 1) Constitutional Amendment Banning Gay Marriage and Abortion Objective 2) Constitutional Amendment Outlawing All Religions Except Christianity Objective 3) Constitutional Amendment Outlawing All Social Welfare Objective 4) Constitutional Amendment Linking Human Rights To Personal Wealth: Make Less Than 300K/year And You're Not A Human Under The Law Objective 5) Constitutional Amendment Outlawing the Income Tax And Allowing Republicans To Seize America's Assets When It Goes Bankrupt
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Nov 17, 2016 16:03
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Covok posted:Welp, maybe they'll learn their lesson when the Republicans get a super majority and make a new amendment that makes all democrats terroists and has them all executed.
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Nov 17, 2016 16:04
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iospace posted:I see three senators potentially going nuclear on anything batshit Trump does: This is from pages back, but Jeff Flake reconciled on twitter, so he's bent the knee to the Trump presidency.
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Nov 17, 2016 16:06
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Kilroy posted:He was in a literal bunker with other congressional Republicans devising a plan to bring down the Democratic party, which they then went out and executed on. I can't think of a worse leader than Schumer.
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Nov 17, 2016 16:06
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US Director of National Intelligence James Clapper has resigned.
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Nov 17, 2016 16:07
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Covok posted:Republican Super Majority: This assumes a 38 fully Republican-run states as well, and while we're close to that, it's not guaranteed after 2018. There are some retiring or term-limited Republican incumbents up for reelection in winnable states, like Maine and Nevada, and most of the Democratic incumbents are in states like New York and Hawaii where they're not going anywhere. Other Republicans are up for reelection in states that Clinton won decisively, like Vermont, Massachusetts, Maryland, and Illinois. Obviously Democrats actually doing something in an off-year isn't something we've seen recently, but I'd chalk that up to the DNC's total neglect of anything other than national politics, and it sounds like both Keith Ellison and Howard Dean know better. Congress can't pass amendments on its own, even with a Republican supermajority. Harrow fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Nov 17, 2016 16:07
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:these guys have been collaborating with whoever was in power and paying lip service to you their entire lives, been lavishly rewarded for it every step of the way, and you thought one bad election year would see their Damascene conversion to populist radicals? You're going to need to get them out of office if you want change. This is the truth. Salvation was never going to come from above.
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Nov 17, 2016 16:08
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citybeatnik posted:The tea party got its start as an astroturf movement. I'm not sure that the Dems have it in them for that. The fact that there was no leadership battle whatsoever in the Senate is not a good sign. Dems are not even learning from 2014 let alone this election. Just look at those Dem Senators from red states talking about working with Trump on some issues. A bunch of Dems tried the same crap in 2014 with running away from the President and guess what happened? They lost. Why are GOP voters going to vote for a Democrat who is campaigning like a Republican? It never works and they never learn this.
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Nov 17, 2016 16:10
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Call Schumer and tell him we will not accept collaboration. (212) 486-4430
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Nov 17, 2016 16:11
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mcmagic posted:http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/collaborating-with-donald-trump-is-doomed-to-fail.html
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Nov 17, 2016 16:14
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