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white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Business Gorillas posted:

Same but for "raising awareness" and "empowering minorities" when it comes from Clintonistas.

(there's a lot of options. A New New Deal putting the country to work revitalizing infrastructure projects or turning former steel cities into powerhouses in manufacturing green energy products are the two that are kicked around the most)

Make all the disenfranchised socioeconomically disadvantaged people start building the set for the new national Hamilton tour.

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Covok
May 27, 2013

Yet where is that woman now? Tell me, in what heave does she reside? None of them. Because no God bothered to listen or care. If that is what you think it means to be a God, then you and all your teachings are welcome to do as that poor women did. And vanish from these realms forever.

Business Gorillas posted:

I'm not sure you want to admit this concerning what happened with the tea party and the republican party. I'm not sure your knuckles will be able to withstand all of that pearl clutching when the BERNIEBROS summarily chase you out of the party and sweep the nation

I, for one, welcome our new socialist overlords.

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.
Alito is noticeably worse than Scalia, so it can get worse

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Tiberius Christ posted:

there's lots of creepy pics of Biden grasping women in a death grip and breathing in their essence

He's so loving cool the way he's grabbing that biker chick with the two uncomfortable looking biker dudes staring into space

Heh Diamond Joe what a gerbrony

deathbysnusnu
Feb 25, 2016


A Wizard of Goatse posted:

I think this assumes they can bring Trump to heel to get a coherent policy package through, which they haven't actually succeeded at thus far - kissing the ring at the last moment on pain of being publicly humiliated doesn't make them the ones calling the shots. Unless GOP legislators can make a credible threat of impeaching or assassinating him or something to force Presidential compliance Trump has very little motivation to play ball with the Republican party at all, and has shown a strong inclination to arbitrarily start foiling whatever they try out of sheer spite even where he didn't already pretty much lean blue-dog. I'm not ruling out the possibility some new order will have been established with Trump not at the top by the inauguration but from the looks things right now he'll veto bills because Mike Fitzpatrick's name is on them and he said something Trump didn't like in 2004.

I can see it going one of three ways

1: Trump actually is able to keep the RNC on a leash the way he did leading up to and past the convention. He is policy chaos personified, jerking any which way the favored adviser whispers in his ear before he is fired and replaced.

2: Trump can't keep a hold of the reins of power within the party, gets impeached for something pretty drat egregious (anything shy of high treason won't stick), and Pence gets to fulfill their wet dreams.

3: Trump is just a useful idiot and the RNC keeps him on a leash. Mostly the same result as 2, except less efficient and tripping over its own balls.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
EVERY MORNING I WAKE UP AND OPEN PALM SLAM A JUSTICE ONTO THE SUPREME COURT. ITS ROBERT BORK AND

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Tiberius Christ posted:

there's lots of creepy pics of Biden grasping women in a death grip and breathing in their essence

Ain't it usually like old biker ladies?

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

deathbysnusnu posted:

Liberals spending the entire 4 years pissing on each other on why they lost, Republicans in lock step for 4 years making sure the other guys lose as hard as humanly possible.

It's gonna be fun!

I'm gonna start working on a letter to my Democratic Senator pointing out how collaboration is only going to help the Republicans hoping that they already know this and are just trying to act like the adults in the room before they let the Republicans get to bickering among each other when they realize they have to scuttle some of their own bills.

I know that's not going to be the case but I can dream. :smith:

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



deathbysnusnu posted:

I can see it going one of three ways

1: Trump actually is able to keep the RNC on a leash the way he did leading up to and past the convention. He is policy chaos personified, jerking any which way the favored adviser whispers in his ear before he is fired and replaced.

2: Trump can't keep a hold of the reins of power within the party, gets impeached for something pretty drat egregious (anything shy of high treason won't stick), and Pence gets to fulfill their wet dreams.

3: Trump is just a useful idiot and the RNC keeps him on a leash. Mostly the same result as 2, except less efficient and tripping over its own balls.

I thought that whole hypothesis of "use the Trump U case to impeach trump and put Mike pence in" was very interesting but if they get rid of trump I have trouble seeing the country surviving.

LeeMajors
Jan 20, 2005

I've gotta stop fantasizing about Lee Majors...
Ah, one more!


Lindsay Graham mentioned Ted Cruz for supreme court on CNN this morning and I loving died inside

deathbysnusnu
Feb 25, 2016


Business Gorillas posted:

I thought that whole hypothesis of "use the Trump U case to impeach trump and put Mike pence in" was very interesting but if they get rid of trump I have trouble seeing the country surviving.

Do you see the country surviving with Trump?

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

LeeMajors posted:

Lindsay Graham mentioned Ted Cruz for supreme court on CNN this morning and I loving died inside

oh god, imagine him debate nerding it up during hearings

dooby dooby do... the right thing

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



deathbysnusnu posted:

Do you see the country surviving with Trump?

Depends on how closely a con man lives up to the promises he's already backpedaling on at a breakneck speed

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich
I wonder if the next 4 years are gonna be as crazy as these first 6 days

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

Business Gorillas posted:

Depends on how closely a con man lives up to the promises he's already backpedaling on at a breakneck speed

its almost as if he was an establishment neoliberal wall street puppet running as an anti-establishment nativist

who could have seen it coming?

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

deathbysnusnu posted:

I can see it going one of three ways

1: Trump actually is able to keep the RNC on a leash the way he did leading up to and past the convention. He is policy chaos personified, jerking any which way the favored adviser whispers in his ear before he is fired and replaced.

2: Trump can't keep a hold of the reins of power within the party, gets impeached for something pretty drat egregious (anything shy of high treason won't stick), and Pence gets to fulfill their wet dreams.

3: Trump is just a useful idiot and the RNC keeps him on a leash. Mostly the same result as 2, except less efficient and tripping over its own balls.

yeah basically. It wouldn't be too terribly hard to dig up some leverage on Trump and it's not like he's committed to anything bigger than himself, but he is decisively the one everyone's bowing to right now, and projecting some 11-dimensional chess power-behind-the-throne master conspiracy onto the rabble of infighting Tea Partiers and Bush nostalgics who've inherited the wreckage of the GOP seems... implausible. He's not a Bush, and has no Cheney or Rove leading him around by the hand.

LeeMajors posted:

Lindsay Graham mentioned Ted Cruz for supreme court on CNN this morning and I loving died inside

welp gonna wake up screaming tonight

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Nov 17, 2016

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

deathbysnusnu posted:

Do you see the country surviving with Trump?

Despite some of the edgy doomsayers endlessly posting their weird 'ironic' nihilistic fan fiction in this thread, this country will survive the next 4 years.

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!
Yeah, Non Seriam, you can still go gently caress yourself.



And to answer your question: I've already posted about it here, but I've had family and friends get attacked by the Trumpstaffle. So take a guess.

Also to any mods watching: I'm not sure how to report this sort of thing officially, but I want to. I'm not gonna just let harassment sit and not be noticed.

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax
just lol at "the country won't survive" have you seen the pitiful poo poo we call "protests" in this country? yeah, we know, liberal facebook makes it feel like it's a modern day nightmare but DJT is business as usual for America even if the election wasn't

Crain posted:

Also to any mods watching: I'm not sure how to report this sort of thing officially, but I want to. I'm not gonna just let harassment sit and not be noticed.

there's a report button but from what I can tell the correct way to handle it is to buy some red text then follow him around posting sick burns

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

LeeMajors posted:

Lindsay Graham mentioned Ted Cruz for supreme court on CNN this morning and I loving died inside

Everyone in the senate wants him gone.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
God I'm seriously considering a quixotic run for Senate.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



NewForumSoftware posted:

just lol at "the country won't survive" have you seen the pitiful poo poo we call "protests" in this country? yeah, we know, liberal facebook makes it feel like it's a modern day nightmare but DJT is business as usual for America even if the election wasn't


there's a report button but from what I can tell the correct way to handle it is to buy some red text then follow him around posting sick burns

Tbf he isn't in office yet. Id also argue that it isn't as usual because the left is actually waking up from the big lie of "vote for the lesser of two evils and enjoy your scraps"

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

LeeMajors posted:

Lindsay Graham mentioned Ted Cruz for supreme court on CNN this morning and I loving died inside

I think Ted Cruz's ideology is what we're going to get with any Trump appointee.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Crowsbeak posted:

Everyone in the senate wants him gone.

John Roberts all like "nuh uh, do not even try to fob that guy off on us"

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

NewForumSoftware posted:



there's a report button but

Not that I can see on PMs?

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
They can't force Cruz to take up a Scotus apt against his will.

Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Uh I've seen William Pryor's name mentioned as well for Supreme Court. That would be disastrous for LGBT rights

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Something I took away from this election cycle is that Graham is the closest thing republicans have to Reid. He also loves trolling the gently caress out of T. Rafael Cruz

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

I give it a week till Trump floats a dead guy for either SCOTUS or a cabinet position

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Crain posted:

Yeah, Non Seriam, you can still go gently caress yourself.



And to answer your question: I've already posted about it here, but I've had family and friends get attacked by the Trumpstaffle. So take a guess.

Also to any mods watching: I'm not sure how to report this sort of thing officially, but I want to. I'm not gonna just let harassment sit and not be noticed.

What is this?

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


deathbysnusnu posted:

We thought Paul Ryan was going to be bleeding out in a ditch one week ago. We watched the Republicans see the grab them by the pussy tape, walk back all of the condemnation, and accept Trump. I'm sure they all personally hate him with the fury of 1000 suns, but they also see every single fever dream they've ever had materializing before them. There's no ethics or patriotism that will pull anyone other than Lindsey Graham and Paul Ryan back from that abyss, not when they can privatize social security, end Roe V Wade, and go balls deep on trickle down. They stonewalled a supreme court justice, prevented a sensible and popular president from doing anything since 2010, and elected Trump with no backlash that they care about. So yeah, we're going to get a fully staffed cabinet on a delayed timeline packed full of absolute maniacs, but the Republicans will stand by it all.

The GOP has more loyalty to their party than to their president.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:




Looks like a pm and a guy having a meltdown

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Carry over bullshit from the previous thread that this dude decided to bring up for a sick burn.

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011

Hollismason posted:

Uh I've seen William Pryor's name mentioned as well for Supreme Court. That would be disastrous for LGBT rights

*extremely NewForumSoftware voice* but it wouldn't be disastrous for the rust belt, which is where we need to focus our efforts in the coming years.

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

Business Gorillas posted:

Tbf he isn't in office yet. Id also argue that it isn't as usual because the left is actually waking up from the big lie of "vote for the lesser of two evils and enjoy your scraps"

I dunno I think "the left" has realized this for a long time, the problem is that "the left" is really small in America and most people are more than happy to compromise with a neoliberal financial industry candidate if he says the right things during the election. Just look at the outpouring of "support" Hillary had from so-called progressives. She's about as bad as a candidate can get and the general liberal consensus was that if you don't vote for Hillary you're a racist/sexist. Honestly it's pretty much the same way now.

Crain posted:

Not that I can see on PMs?

Well yeah you don't get to report posts unless you pay $10 more, this is SA, duh

forgot my pants
Feb 28, 2005

greatn posted:

I asked this yesterday and no one answered, but does anyone know what the gently caress these accusations of Joe Biden being a pedophile are? It's popping up on Facebook a lot, but I can't find where the hell they are getting this from and I'd like to see what they're talking about and debunk it if it is bullshit.

Joe Biden is very handsy in general. I don't think there's any basis for the claim that he's a pedophile, he just likes putting his hands on people.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



A Wizard of Goatse posted:

I give it a week till Trump floats a dead guy for either SCOTUS or a cabinet position

If corpses are good enough to vote, they're good enough to serve!!

*writes in various misspellings of RONALD REAGAN on a piece of toilet paper labelled 2017 Government* :freep:

NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

Venuz Patrol posted:

*extremely NewForumSoftware voice* but it wouldn't be disastrous for the rust belt, which is where we need to focus our efforts in the coming years.

no we should probably be focused on just purging the neoliberals from the Democratic party if you actually want progressive change in America. convincing the voters won't matter

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

NewForumSoftware posted:

no we should probably be focused on just purging the neoliberals from the Democratic party if you actually want progressive change in America. convincing the voters won't matter

Purges are always happy fun time.

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NewForumSoftware
Oct 8, 2016

by Lowtax

BarbarianElephant posted:

Purges are always happy fun time.

sorry if your dad is a wall street banker and you're upset you won't be taken seriously any more

i mean, if it makes you feel any better, it's not going to happen

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