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Speaking of Cris... https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/status/798598472580485122
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Adults talking out a twitter feud gives me a glimmer of hope for the future of discourse in AmericaNiwrad posted:They just don't have the kind of writers that Grantland had. Some of the best people moved on to other ventures. I actually think being in opposition is the best thing that could happen for Keepin It 1600's popularity. Adun fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Nov 15, 2016 20:00
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Adun posted:Adults talking out a twitter feud gives me a glimmer of hope for the future of discourse in America Wasn't even a feud though. Simmons unironically loves Michaels & Collinsworth. He just does the voice because...well, he's Bill Simmons. It was a good listen though.
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Nov 16, 2016 18:57
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the ringer's nba shootaround article today has a stars of the lid reference so we cool go the ringer.
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Nov 17, 2016 09:14
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It seems deadspin has been reading our thread: http://deadspin.com/bill-simmons-isnt-too-big-to-fail-1788556607
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Nov 17, 2016 19:12
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BWV posted:It seems deadspin has been reading our thread:
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Nov 17, 2016 19:38
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FMguru posted:Very solid article. It nails the perfect adjective to describe The Ringer - "inessential." It's just depressing that whenever I read the Ringer I can't help but think about how much better Grantland was I really miss the more ridiculous Remebrt Browne articles like his last ever Grantland piece: http://grantland.com/hollywood-prospectus/rembert-explains-sisqos-unleash-the-dragon/ Adun fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Nov 17, 2016 20:46
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I didn't really read much of Grantland, but I usually check the Ringer once a day or so and find a couple articles worth reading.
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Nov 17, 2016 20:49
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Adun posted:It's just depressing that whenever I read the Ringer I can't help but think about how much better Grantland was my favourite Grantland piece was the minute by minute breakdown of how many times Kate Winslet tried to kill Leonardo Di Caprio in Titanic, and all I can do is giggle all the way through
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Nov 17, 2016 21:19
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projecthalaxy posted:I didn't really read much of Grantland, but I usually check the Ringer once a day or so and find a couple articles worth reading. I usually find two or three at the Ringer but would find a half dozen at Grantland.
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Nov 17, 2016 21:32
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GobiasIndustries posted:WHO SAYS NO?? is the best because the answer is always 'the team that *Boston Sports Team* is trading with'. Even when Boston isn't involved, I find there's often a team who would very easily say no. I remember some cockmanie trade he came up with the Raptors to acquire Eric Bledsoe, and it involved giving up way too much (something like 2 first rounders, plus 3 players, including DeRozan). Eric's a good player, but DeRozan is straight up better. Plus picks and depth guys? gently caress that. We'd STILL be rebuilding. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Nov 17, 2016 21:32
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The Sea Of Crises might be my favorite I miss Grantland.
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Nov 17, 2016 21:40
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:my favourite Grantland piece was the minute by minute breakdown of how many times Kate Winslet tried to kill Leonardo Di Caprio in Titanic, and all I can do is giggle all the way through Holy hell, I missed that one and just read it and laughed my rear end off. I love Titanic but that was great.
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Nov 17, 2016 22:02
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Voodoofly posted:The Sea Of Crises might be my favorite poo poo, I remember reading this and being completely enthralled, thanks for bringing it back into my head. EDIT: I actually bought a copy of Runaway Horses because of it, but I haven't started it yet. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Nov 17, 2016 |
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Nov 17, 2016 22:06
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Brian Phillips basically tried to recreate that one with another long-form "I am traveling somewhere and also mentally unstable" story at MTV that I didn't care for that much. His lengthy profile on animator Yuriy Norshteyn that came out recently is really great though
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Nov 17, 2016 22:10
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morestuff posted:Brian Phillips basically tried to recreate that one with another long-form "I am traveling somewhere and also mentally unstable" story at MTV that I didn't care for that much. His lengthy profile on animator Yuriy Norshteyn that came out recently is really great though Yeah, the Area 51 story had some great moments, but was pretty forgettable. I need to check out the other one, though, and also set a reminder to check his page on MTV more often.
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Voodoofly posted:Yeah, the Area 51 story had some great moments, but was pretty forgettable. I need to check out the other one, though, and also set a reminder to check his page on MTV more often. His current gig only calls for four long-form features a year, but he'll pop up with a shorter piece every month or so.
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Inspector_666 posted:EDIT: I actually bought a copy of Runaway Horses because of it, but I haven't started it yet. I had a copy that I picked up at a used book store a few years ago. I had never read it because I figured I should read the series in order, but after reading The Sea of Crises I just said the hell with it and read it anyway. I am glad I did.
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Nov 17, 2016 23:55
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Brian Phillips on the Iditarod is one of my favourite pieces of writing
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BWV posted:Brian Phillips on the Iditarod is one of my favourite pieces of writing Definitely my first taste of him too. So good
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Nov 18, 2016 05:39
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Voodoofly posted:The Sea Of Crises might be my favorite The one where they detail Ric Flair's slow, sad decent, and countered Flair's threat of a lawsuit by revealing their source was Flair's own biography, was a favorite of mine beyond the post-publication drama.
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Nov 19, 2016 02:39
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The best thing about that and the also-good piece on New Jack was how none of the good Grantland wrestling coverage was actually written by Grantland's wrestling writer, because Grantland's wrestling writer sucked rear end
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Nov 19, 2016 02:50
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Alain Post posted:The best thing about that and the also-good piece on New Jack was how none of the good Grantland wrestling coverage was actually written by Grantland's wrestling writer, because Grantland's wrestling writer sucked rear end I'm not a wrestling guy, but I always enjoyed the masked man's dead wrestler of the week pieces for deadspin. Of course because I'm not a wrestling guy I didn't really follow his writing on current wrestling when he made the jump to grantland. howe_sam fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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Nov 19, 2016 02:54
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the short story is that he is factually wrong about everything
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Nov 19, 2016 02:55
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I despise the masked man, nothing to add but just thought I'd pile on that loser.
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Nov 19, 2016 02:58
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Can someone give some examples of why he's so bad? It's weird enough to me that wrestling journalism is a profession.
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Nov 19, 2016 03:04
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Henchman of Santa posted:Can someone give some examples of why he's so bad? It's weird enough to me that wrestling journalism is a profession. Shoemaker is basically wrestling Simmons. He's a fanboy who caught a bit of a following for being an entertaining blogger and has parlayed that into higher profile gigs. Professional wrestling journalism (as in professional journalism about wrestling rather than journalism about pro wrestling) actually exists, but the only person who's been able to do it is Dave Meltzer who managed to actually do it in the pre-internet era and has kept it up.
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Nov 19, 2016 03:20
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Calling him Wrestling Simmons is too kind to him, he's like Wrestling Simmons if BIll Simmons actually was factually wrong about Boston sports history to the extent where he thought the Bill Buckner game in the '86 series was actually game 7 or some poo poo. I mean I wish I could pull up a big list but he thought Andre the Giant was Italian ffs
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Nov 19, 2016 03:21
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It's basically like if their main baseball writer just casually trotted out an article with gems like "In 1923, Babe Ruth crushed 85 home runs, changing the game forever..." "Barry Bonds was never truly a great power hitter..." "Growing up in Albania, George Brett never imagined he'd be famous for discussing pissing his pants" "Most fans of the era will admit, the 1990s Atlanta Braves pitching staff was overrated" and then also every article would make sure to mention how great the current MLB is and how amazing the league is doing and how everyone loves it and it's a boom period
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Nov 19, 2016 04:26
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specifically one of the major issues is that WWE, being the only major US wrestling promotion still in operation sanitizes the history of wrestling to a tremendous degree (generally to make the WWE look good) and Shoemaker buys into this revisionist view completely
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I am a historian, so one of my issues with Shoemaker is that he is willfully ahistorical in his writing. As an example, he seems to consider wrestlers like Gorgeous George, Goldust, and Adrian Adonis all the same. He even uses the term "human being heels" to describe them. To do this as a journalist without considering historic social context is just downright unacceptable.Alain Post posted:specifically one of the major issues is that WWE, being the only major US wrestling promotion still in operation sanitizes the history of wrestling to a tremendous degree (generally to make the WWE look good) and Shoemaker buys into this revisionist view completely This is also very true. And the comparisons to Simmons are apt. I couldn't listen to the Grantland podcast when Shoemaker was on there because his self-promotion was so grating.
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Nov 19, 2016 05:56
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I disliked Grantland as a whole but Adam Sharp has been great since moving to SI. I feel like as a whole SI benefited the most from Grantland going down.
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Nov 19, 2016 07:12
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MTV News probably more so than SI because they did a complete reinvention based around Grantlanders...that I never read.
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Nov 19, 2016 07:17
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Grantland's culture writers were all kind of trash except for Wesley Morris
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Nov 19, 2016 07:20
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morestuff posted:Grantland's culture writers were all kind of trash except for Wesley Morris
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Nov 19, 2016 07:46
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Nov 19, 2016 13:56
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howe_sam posted:MTV News probably more so than SI because they did a complete reinvention based around Grantlanders...that I never read. Having Holly Anderson on staff, but not writing about football, is just cruel. (Also Jamil Smith is a bad and wrong writer)
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Nov 20, 2016 14:30
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I would love for someone to link me to a Holly Anderson article that wasn't unforgivably boring nonsense that could be written by any college football columnist. The best Grantland article about college football was the Johnny Football one. And I don't even know who Shane Ryan is.
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Nov 20, 2016 16:57
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milk milk lemonade posted:I would love for someone to link me to a Holly Anderson article that wasn't unforgivably boring nonsense that could be written by any college football columnist. Life's Rich Pageant: Meet a Florida Man. The story of a dude who got his dick caught in a compound bow. I also enjoyed her Justified recaps even if she got saddled with the worst season of the show.
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howe_sam posted:Life's Rich Pageant: Meet a Florida Man. The story of a dude who got his dick caught in a compound bow. I was gonna post the Florida Man one too and you beat me to it. I also enjoyed this one about the great outdoor games: http://grantland.com/features/blades-of-glory/
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