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Waffleman_ posted:It's also going to be interesting to see Pokemon on the same network as Yokai Watch, the franchise that dethroned it in Japan, especially with the Sun & Moon season debuting today taking an obvious influence from Yokai Watch's anime. Well they are both Nintendo properties, heck it isn't even the first time Nintendo has had another Mon series around, they also did Fossil Fighters, although that one never took off quite like Yokai Watch has
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Nintendo does not own Yokai Watch, it's a Level 5 property.
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Waffleman_ posted:It's also going to be interesting to see Pokemon on the same network as Yokai Watch, the franchise that dethroned it in Japan, especially with the Sun & Moon season debuting today taking an obvious influence from Yokai Watch's anime. Worth noting that Japanese Pokemon sales beat the poo poo out of worldwide Yokai Watch sales, which are starting to nosedive after the third 'generation' and Pokemon SM is tracking to blow its previous generation out of the water. It didn't so much dethrone as much as put pressure and flood the market as Level-5 is known to do. Wouldn't be too surprised if the games stop being pumped out in two years. I really hope that the move to Disney XD is a sign of things to come, they aired the Nintendo World Championship there last year and Nintendo's openly spoken about trying to get their IPs out there more (and announced yesterday a zelda themed sorta room escape) so maybe the move to Disney XD could mean some cooperation, like a Splatoon cartoon or something?
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Nov 17, 2016 22:35
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Is the Pokemon cartoon even really all the popular anymore? I know the franchise is still big but I always took CN's airing it early in the morning more of a reflection of viewer demands.
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Nov 17, 2016 22:44
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glam rock hamhock posted:Is the Pokemon cartoon even really all the popular anymore? I know the franchise is still big but I always took CN's airing it early in the morning more of a reflection of viewer demands. CN doesn't really have a good track record these days with shows neither made at CN Studios nor named Teen Titans Go (or even some of the shows that are made at CN Studios)
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Nov 17, 2016 22:47
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glam rock hamhock posted:Is the Pokemon cartoon even really all the popular anymore? I know the franchise is still big but I always took CN's airing it early in the morning more of a reflection of viewer demands. It was for a bit, but then Mega-Charizard hosed it up.
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Rudoku posted:It was for a bit, but then Mega-Charizard hosed it up. Can you elaborate on this?
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Xelkelvos posted:Can you elaborate on this? Ash looked like he was gonna win he Kalos League against a guy he got beat by like 4 times in a row after powering up his French Frog Ninja that had special anime hype powers. But didn't. To a black Charizard. Look up "Ash loses Kalos league" for a few laughs.
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Nov 18, 2016 00:02
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I've been under the assumption that the Pokemon cartoon hasn't been as popular as the games for some time now. CN barely runs the show anymore and they haven't seemed particularly interested in it for years.
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When Pokemon first came out I expected there to be an end-goal for Ash becoming a Pokemon Master. Like, there are champions but they don't call them masters. And even if they were the masters Ash hasn't ever won a tournament...I think. drat it, let Ash grow up and become an adult! Let him start a gym and teach the next generation of pokemon trainers. He's earned that much.
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Nov 18, 2016 00:09
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Crabtree posted:The gently caress? Levity and Action? From DC?! Did they unearth some frozen people from the past or what? Wait, I know that DC has been super serious as of late, but they don't even deliver on action?
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MrSlam posted:When Pokemon first came out I expected there to be an end-goal for Ash becoming a Pokemon Master. Like, there are champions but they don't call them masters. And even if they were the masters Ash hasn't ever won a tournament...I think. No. He's in school now learning about Z-Moves to improve his skills and you go buy your own Z-Ring for 29.99 and all the Z-Crystals to maximize your skills as they do lights and sounds when you use your Z-Move in Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon (39.99 each) in your New 3DS system (99.99 for the Super Mario edition this Black Friday and Holidays)  I hope this new season of the anime takes off, the new art style looks way more interesting, specially the color palette and it has the best scene with the best new pokemon (video is darkened for some reason)
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paradoxGentleman posted:Wait, I know that DC has been super serious as of late, but they don't even deliver on action? It is touch and go outside of picking really good series like All-Star Superman and maybe loving up the presentation depending on how faithful they stick to the source material. I remember watching Throne of Atlantis with Waffle and it was the most boring poo poo ever. Like peak New 52 schlock that couldn't loving make anyone care about what was going on no matter what happened, while Crisis of 2 Earths was sort of okay. The Killing Joke was really ruined by a sort of more tame art style and some really stupid changes to a flawless story. You can have Atlantis attack the army in Washington DC or Giant Sea Monsters battling the whole JL and if you can't care for them making Aquaman look good by having everyone else job, the action is a complete waste of time. All grim gritty flash with no substance. Oh an the occasional swear - how exciting!
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MrSlam posted:When Pokemon first came out I expected there to be an end-goal for Ash becoming a Pokemon Master. Like, there are champions but they don't call them masters. And even if they were the masters Ash hasn't ever won a tournament...I think. Ash is legitimately a terrible Pokemon trainer in pretty much every respect, it's honestly embarrassing that they still have him as the main character in the anime
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Nov 18, 2016 01:56
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:No. He's in school now learning about Z-Moves to improve his skills and you go buy your own Z-Ring for 29.99 and all the Z-Crystals to maximize your skills as they do lights and sounds when you use your Z-Move in Pokemon Sun and Pokemon Moon (39.99 each) in your New 3DS system (99.99 for the Super Mario edition this Black Friday and Holidays) I really like the new show's animation style. It's very fluid which is rare in anime. drrockso20 posted:Ash is legitimately a terrible Pokemon trainer in pretty much every respect, it's honestly embarrassing that they still have him as the main character in the anime Truth. But think how awesome it would be if the show embraced this and made Ash's defining trait that he's lovely at his job. I don't think I've ever seen a show (particularly an anime) where the main character was irredeemably bad at the thing they dream to do. It would be like if Dragonball's main character was Krillin.
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readingatwork posted:I really like the new show's animation style. It's very fluid which is rare in anime. That would get old really drat fast
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readingatwork posted:I really like the new show's animation style. It's very fluid which is rare in anime. Don't they already do that with Team Rocket?
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Nov 18, 2016 03:23
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drrockso20 posted:Ash is legitimately a terrible Pokemon trainer in pretty much every respect, it's honestly embarrassing that they still have him as the main character in the anime He still has to use his Pokedex. After all these years. To be fair though they keep making more loving Pokemon. readingatwork posted:Truth. But think how awesome it would be if the show embraced this and made Ash's defining trait that he's lovely at his job. I don't think I've ever seen a show (particularly an anime) where the main character was irredeemably bad at the thing they dream to do. It would be like if Dragonball's main character was Krillin. Like Curb Your Enthusiasm but with Pokemon. I wonder how willing Japan would be to take the piss out of that genre.
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drrockso20 posted:Ash is legitimately a terrible Pokemon trainer in pretty much every respect, it's honestly embarrassing that they still have him as the main character in the anime This is from years ago and probably outdated but I remember seeing a list of how he got all of his gym badges and for a majority of them he never even beat the gym leader, he'd lose (or something would interrupt the battle), then he'd prove himself some other way, and then they'd give him a badge without him actually beating them. Darn millenials with their participation trophies 
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MrSlam posted:When Pokemon first came out I expected there to be an end-goal for Ash becoming a Pokemon Master. Like, there are champions but they don't call them masters. And even if they were the masters Ash hasn't ever won a tournament...I think. He won the Orange Island League! You know, the one that doesn't exist in any game... (man, I remember the Orange Island arc of the anime starting soooo many playground rumors back in ye olden days about how you could totally find them in R/B/Y because my uncle at Nintendo said so)
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Ash's Mom is just glad to have him out of the house and out of her life at this point. Guy's basically dropped out of school to not even be that good of a pokemon trainer. Just another deadbeat in the grass, waiting for some kid to beat him and take his lunchmoney in some random battle. Gary's a loving Pokemon Scholar, Misty's running a gym in who the gently caress cares, Brock's macking on girls somewhere. But Ash? Ash's gotta pretend he's still in his, what? His early 20s at this point?
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Crabtree posted:Ash's Mom is just glad to have him out of the house and out of her life at this point. Guy's basically dropped out of school to not even be that good of a pokemon trainer. Just another deadbeat in the grass, waiting for some kid to beat him and take his lunchmoney in some random battle. Ash's mom moved to Alola with him
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^she did not. Mr. Mine won a little contest for a trip to Alola. Oak asked them to deliver a pokemon egg to his brother, Samson Oak, in his Pokemon School. Ash saw the gimmick of this generation and went "i'm staying here in school to learn all the z-moves!" while his mom went home.Pakled posted:This is from years ago and probably outdated but I remember seeing a list of how he got all of his gym badges and for a majority of them he never even beat the gym leader, he'd lose (or something would interrupt the battle), then he'd prove himself some other way, and then they'd give him a badge without him actually beating them. I think that by Gen 4 he's been mostly winning his gym battles and doing well by himself. Ironically enough, it's more like 90's participation trophies and having to work for himself once we're deep into the new millennium. Crabtree posted:Ash's Mom is just glad to have him out of the house and out of her life at this point. Guy's basically dropped out of school to not even be that good of a pokemon trainer. Just another deadbeat in the grass, waiting for some kid to beat him and take his lunchmoney in some random battle. Brock's a Doctor now. But to Ash's credit, he's finally gonna finish his education this season.
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MrSlam posted:He still has to use his Pokedex. After all these years. To be fair though they keep making more loving Pokemon. CYE with Pokemon would actually star Professor Oak as he tries to study Pokemon for his Pokedex project (since IIRC Oak created the Pokedex) on them only to have some guy pop in just as he's almost finished and go "Hey Professor Oak, Professor [tree name] in [New Region] just called to say he found 100 new Pokemon! I guess you'll have to update all your research!"
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TwoPair posted:CYE with Pokemon would actually star Professor Oak as he tries to study Pokemon for his Pokedex project (since IIRC Oak created the Pokedex) on them only to have some guy pop in just as he's almost finished and go "Hey Professor Oak, Professor [tree name] in [New Region] just called to say he found 100 new Pokemon! I guess you'll have to update all your research!" *Frolic played by Hoenn trumpets*
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readingatwork posted:Truth. But think how awesome it would be if the show embraced this and made Ash's defining trait that he's lovely at his job. I don't think I've ever seen a show (particularly an anime) where the main character was irredeemably bad at the thing they dream to do. It would be like if Dragonball's main character was Krillin. I think there's like two Pixar films with this moral.
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Waffleman_ posted:In an interesting bit of news, The Pokemon Company announced today that the broadcast rights for all 19 seasons of the Pokemon anime, the movies, and the upcoming Sun & Moon season are now in Disney XD's hands instead of Cartoon Network. Apparently, TPC was displeased with how CN treated the anime, and I can see that. They pretty much just put it at the rear end end of the morning and nowhere else. That anime started my freshman year of college and I can't loving believe it's still going. There are adults that were born when that show started.
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raditts posted:That anime started my freshman year of college and I can't loving believe it's still going. There are adults that were born when that show started. Lots of animes aimed at little children keep on going for a long while, the main thing is that it's aimed at seven year olds and when they're teenagers and start thinking it'd dumb and drop it... there'll be a brand new crop of seven year olds ready to watch.
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I still don't understand the adults who can watch that show religiously. Even as a young kid I thought the Pokemon cartoon got boring and tedious fast.
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They just want to be the best like no one ever was
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To watch old Pokemon episodes is their quest. To write wikia articles on them is their cause.
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MrSlam posted:To watch old Pokemon episodes is their quest. To write wikia articles on them is their cause. WIKIA? Bitch, PLEASE. Bulbapedia is twenty times the quality of the very best Wikia purely by virtue of not being hosted on Wikia.
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The parts of the show I remember most fondly are the bits earlier on anyways, when they didn't give a poo poo for how game mechanics were supposed to work and the VAs still couldn't really figure out how to say "pokemon". At this point, Ash is some kind of weird 30-year-bum constantly moving from town to town like he's running some kind of scam, and palling around with whatever new young kid represents the current generation of the games.
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Mob Pokemon Psycho. Ash is the mostly useless adult following around the "real" protagonist, yet the kid believes he's really the best trainer ever.
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Even as a kid/young teenager watching the Pokemon anime, I was annoyed at how much Ash bumbled his way to glory. It's all well and good when you start out, but at some point you gotta learn. Granted, I stopped watching sometime after the Mahogany Town gym battle (a legitimate win, IIRC) but before the Blackthorn City gym battle, and it looks like things have changed over time.MrSlam posted:Curb Your Enthusiasm but with Pokemon
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Ash has gotten better about actually winning Gym battles, but he's still an abysmal trainer from the catching perspective, I'd have to double check the exact number but if I remember properly he's only caught like somewhere between 48 and 76 Pokemon(not counting the herd of Taurus he has), not to mention releasing or otherwise getting rid of like at least 10 to 20 of them, which is just really dumb on his part(honestly Ash is too soft as a person and lacking in actual desires to be a good trainer)
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get that OUT of my face posted:Even as a kid/young teenager watching the Pokemon anime, I was annoyed at how much Ash bumbled his way to glory. It helps that his best buddy has to be like level 300 at this point.
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I recently watched all of Steven Universe, most of Teen Titans Go, and most of the first season of Amazing World of Gumball. Half the episodes were really annoying. I think that mostly because the creator intended it to be autobiographical and wrote almost all of Gumball's classmates to be annoying. Richard is all right when he's being clever at being lazy, like tricking Gumball into taking out the trash by asking him to play bank robber with the garbage sack. Sometimes they'll have a really funny joke and then negate it by repeating it several times. The animation for Gumball is fantastic and really creative, though. It's just that they have a lot of repulsive gross-out scenes where Gumball is drinking a mix of sweat and used underwear or something. I hear that the other seasons are a lot better, and I guess I've got time. Teen Titans Go is great. I like that it has episodes that end with everyone turning into household appliances or deciding to reject violence forever. It defies the usual pattern of either having continuity or returning everybody by the status quo by the end of the episode. Steven Universe is better than any cartoon I've ever watched.
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