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infernal machines posted:I get your point, but it's worth pointing out that this is not true. You paid into the system like everyone else, so it wasn't directly out of pocket but you have paid for it. Oh, I know and understand that. I just think it's wonderful that everyone pays into it a little bit and then you use it when you need it.
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THC posted:What would Richmond "the community your [white] forefathers built" look like without Chinese immigrants? A loving one-horse town with unpaved roads? steveston and seafair are still pretty white overall. really old tho
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She has a higher approval rating than Wynne or Clark!  At the very least she seems honest and transparent. Following the platform to a T, and explaining clearly items in it not being addressed(mostly due to budget). Most people's major sticking point is the content of their platform but if they turn populist in the last year and run on their record against Kenney's garbage, it should be a win. Powershift fucked around with this message at 04:50 on Nov 18, 2016 |
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Dreylad posted:What's the general feeling about Notely these days? The antichrist, if you ask people from where I grew up. Edmontonians still seem to be fans. Not sure about Calgarians.
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Powershift posted:She has a higher approval rating than Wynne or Clark! any substantive reason she's only clearing the lowest of low bars, or is it just "She didn't pump the price of oil back up and personally reconstruct Fort Mac"?
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JawKnee posted:any substantive reason she's only clearing the lowest of low bars, or is it just "She didn't pump the price of oil back up and personally reconstruct Fort Mac"? Her initial efforts were to entrench things that would be easily reversible if implemented in the later years with them losing power. Getting the provincial budget hooked on the carbon tax and a (somewhat) progressive tax system. All unpopular, but needed things. The fact that an enviromentalist lefty woman has a higher approval rating in alberta than liberals in BC or Ontario has to be worth something though. She was as high as mid 40s which is progress with at least 25% of the population never in a million years giving her a nod.
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JawKnee posted:any substantive reason she's only clearing the lowest of low bars, or is it just "She didn't pump the price of oil back up and personally reconstruct Fort Mac"? I think there's a lot of concern about being "unfriendly to business". Unfortunately, people don't seem to realise that about 40% of our economy is reliant on oil in one way or another, and that the NDP don't actually control the price of oil-- and that the pain we're experiencing right now is the inevitable result of being reliant on one single resource for so loving long. There's also a fair bunch of socially regressive assholes who think that support for LGBT students and that kind of thing should be outlawed. Also, she's a woman. Alberta is apparently the worst province to be a woman in, and that's pretty clearly reflected in the way we treat politicians who happen to be women.
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Gorewar posted:The antichrist, if you ask people from where I grew up. Edmontonians still seem to be fans. Not sure about Calgarians.
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Lien posted:I think there's a lot of concern about being "unfriendly to business". Unfortunately, people don't seem to realise that about 40% of our economy is reliant on oil in one way or another, and that the NDP don't actually control the price of oil-- and that the pain we're experiencing right now is the inevitable result of being reliant on one single resource for so loving long. There's also a fair bunch of socially regressive assholes who think that support for LGBT students and that kind of thing should be outlawed. Also, she's a woman. Alberta is apparently the worst province to be a woman in, and that's pretty clearly reflected in the way we treat politicians who happen to be women. I was all ready to hate her, but she really has been fairly friendly to business in general -- as friendly as it's appropriate to be, I would say. I think she's representing Alberta's interests well and making the best of a very bad situation. I think her appointment of health minister was, as discussed at great length previously, bad optics, but ultimately not disasterous by any means. I would have no problem with voting for the federal NDP if they were led by Notley or someone like her, instead of Thomas Mulcair and company. Ultimately, I would hope that the ANDP moves slightly left, the PCs regain their sanity, expel the numbskulls, and move left as well (ending ever so slightly to the right of where the NDP is presently), and the Wildrose nutters be publicly flogged on the floor of the legislature right before being permanently kicked out. Sadly, I don't think this is realistic, given that the PC party seems intent on expelling the remaining sane people it possesses. I think every government needs a strong and credible opposition, I'm just not comfortable with it being the PCs in their current form, nor am I comfortable with it being the
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I wonder what website was linked to. e:  Of course "red pill" comes up here. I have to wonder what Putting Canada First has to say about all this. Lain Iwakura fucked around with this message at 05:17 on Nov 18, 2016 |
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PT6A posted:I was all ready to hate her, but she really has been fairly friendly to business in general -- as friendly as it's appropriate to be, I would say. I think she's representing Alberta's interests well and making the best of a very bad situation. I think her appointment of health minister was, as discussed at great length previously, bad optics, but ultimately not disasterous by any means. I would have no problem with voting for the federal NDP if they were led by Notley or someone like her, instead of Thomas Mulcair and company. The Alberta Party is just waiting in the wings!
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apatheticman posted:The Alberta Party is just waiting in the wings! Oh right, the party with the candidate who resigned after telling a distasteful joke about pedophilia and was then found luring a minor online and arrested for it. Yeah, I see big things in their future.
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PT6A posted:Oh right, the party with the candidate who resigned after telling a distasteful joke about pedophilia and was then found luring a minor online and arrested for it. apathetic man didn't say where they were waiting wings some middle-school recorder concert or something I would guess
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JawKnee posted:apathetic man didn't say where they were waiting wings "And, officer, could you tell us what you found in his car when you searched?" "Kleenex, lube, binoculars, and Alberta Party campaign materials."
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THC posted:What would Richmond "the community your [white] forefathers built" look like without Chinese immigrants? A loving one-horse town with unpaved roads? Another example of how sad our education system is. In 1788-1789 120 Chinese workers were brought to Nootka Sound to build the trading post there. Simple fact of geography for B.C. until the transcontinental railway was completed - Asian workers were closer than Europeans. (Not to mention cheaper, easier to feed, and displaying a strong work ethic, as Capt. Meares noted. Did I mention they were cheaper?) CBC interviewed a woman who was clutching her pearls about how sad it was that this racist business was making its way north. Lady, hating on those with different skin colours is a fine old Colonial tradition from time immemorial, not something we had to learn from TrumpCo. See also: Vancouver race riots.
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Hexigrammus posted:Hating on those with different skin colours is a fine old Colonial tradition from time immemorial, not something we had to learn from TrumpCo. See also: Vancouver race riots.  THE HEATHEN CHINEE IN BRITISH COLUMBIA HEATHEN CHINEE: "Why you send me offee?" AMOR DE COSMOS (The Love of the World or the Lover of Mankind): "Because you can't or won't "assimilate" with us". HEATHEN CHINEE: "What is datee?" AMOR DE COSMOS (second Premier of British Columbia): "You won't drink whiskey, and talk politics and vote like us".
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Cool find there McGavin. I'd heard of Amor De Cosmos before as a very public eccentric historical figure but never seen anything like that.
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I love to drink whisky and talk politics! Truly I am the most Canadian.
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JawKnee posted:
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Nah, I remember the Chretien and Martin years. The libs will lib and economically be pretty much indistinguishable from the cons. But I don't expect them to pass any bathroom bills or get the barbaric hot line going again. Who knows we may even see weed decriminalized by the end of their term. Pretty sure voting reform isn't gonna happen. The ndp didn't have a chance in hell in my riding and with no voting subsidy there was no point throwing my vote away to them. Plus gently caress them for running so hard to the right.
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Tsyni posted:CanPol Megathread: Alberta, just a fart in the room that nobody wants to acknowledge or talk about For whatever reason, instead of just letting it slide away as a one night news item they're gonna use #TeamFart because [?] https://twitter.com/RonaAmbrose/status/799284524228087808 https://twitter.com/HeatherMForsyth/status/799318862902591488 less than three fucked around with this message at 08:25 on Nov 18, 2016 |
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less than three posted:For whatever reason, instead of just letting it slide away as a one night news item they're gonna use #TeamFart because [?] I hate Canadian politics
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Lien posted:As an Albertan, I am delighted by this idea. Kenney is a socially regressive idiot-- we have a party for those people already, the Wildrose. The PCs used to be able to pretend that they were a big tent party, but it's becoming increasingly clear there is no place for social progressives/lefties in that party. I hope the right wing eats itself, splits the vote and ushers in an NDP dynasty. 40 years would be okay. I kinda hope they do push the chips all in on "Unite the Right!" The law's very particular on what name your party happens to be. So if they stick to the Progressive Conservatives, then they can only access funds raised for the PCs, ditto for Wildrose. They'd be fighting with one hand tied behind their back either (with bonus blindfold if they call themselves Wildrose, since the PCs have a bigger war chest.) Bonus comedy option: They jettison both names and go with Reform, because 
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CanPol Megathread: #TeamFart
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I can't wait for some if you to start screaming racist at CI for hating on billionaire Chinese with warehouses full of copper.
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EvilJoven posted:I can't wait for some if you to start screaming racist at CI for hating on billionaire Chinese with warehouses full of copper. Maybe you should have your own thread just to argue with strawmen. Then you can always be right. 
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less than three posted:For whatever reason, instead of just letting it slide away as a one night news item they're gonna use #TeamFart because [?] Yes, please CPC, embrace #TeamFart and make it a critical part of your identity. Please.
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EvilJoven posted:I can't wait for some if you to start screaming racist at CI for hating on billionaire Chinese with warehouses full of copper. CI got banned a week ago for really unambiguous racism, and not against Chinese people.
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Jordan7hm posted:Ottawa Vanier isn't even a contest. Jeeze The "Wynne's Hydro crisis" angle doesn't really work in an area with really affordable power bills; there are also a lot of schools in this area, which means a lot of teachers and that means fewer people to lose their minds about the "stop explicit sex-ed rallying cry". If the cons have any other talking points, I haven't heard them.
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flakeloaf posted:The "Wynne's Hydro crisis" angle doesn't really work in an area with really affordable power bills; there are also a lot of schools in this area, which means a lot of teachers and that means fewer people to lose their minds about the "stop explicit sex-ed rallying cry". If the cons have any other talking points, I haven't heard them. We were never going to win that riding, it's been Liberal since before only white people could be racist. In the 2014 general election, 21k voted Liberal, 8k voted PC. Last night, 14k voted Liberal and 9k voted PC so yeah don't worry OLP everything's fine. Fuckin' more PCs turned out for a by-election than the general. HIGH ENERGY!
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infernal machines posted:That's Ikantski's shtick, if you're going to be tedious can you at least be original? He's got the don't make fun of scared white people thing at least
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a fleshy snood posted:Yes, please CPC, embrace #TeamFart and make it a critical part of your identity. Please. The Conservatives are already mostly CCRAP so the farts shouldn't be surprising.
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