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Not a Step posted:So... never? Not if we consistently destroy Arab secularism wherever it appears, no. Keeping an entire region backwards in 2016 takes a lot of effort though.
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Clinton Supporters Hit Congress With A Tsunami Of Phone Callsquote:The phone lines of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee were shut down Friday after a deluge of Hillary Clinton supporters called to demand a conflict-of-interest investigation into Donald Trump. Good. Hope to see more action like this going forward.
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DaveWoo posted:Clinton Supporters Hit Congress With A Tsunami Of Phone Calls This is awesome, except the Republicans will completely ignore it so it won't go anywhere.
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Apraxin posted:Democratic Senator says he's gonna back appointing Sessions as AG. (It's Joe Manchin, of course, but still UGHHHHH.) Pineapple Eddie is v good tho and u should go
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anime was right posted:thats a super creative and smart way to sell leftist ideas, tbh. What, by pointing out the common ground in your argument as opposed to focusing on the superiority of your ideology? Yep. (Death penalty is way more expensive than life in prison > death penalty is wrong, you are wrong)
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Apraxin posted:Democratic Senator says he's gonna back appointing Sessions as AG. (It's Joe Manchin, of course, but still UGHHHHH.) For PA try http://www.padems.com/counties/ and hope your county has something. A lot seem to only list a name but some like http://www.padems.com/county/blair/ link to functioning websites http://www.blairdems.org/regular-meetings that do list their meetings!
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MrCussMustard posted:What, by pointing out the common ground in your argument as opposed to focusing on the superiority of your ideology? We are going to have to rely on a charismatic figure attracting votes.
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MrCussMustard posted:What, by pointing out the common ground in your argument as opposed to focusing on the superiority of your ideology? thats incrementalist talk comrade, see you against the wall (where ill also be lined up)
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Mrit SA posted:This is awesome, except the Republicans will completely ignore it so it won't go anywhere. Doesn't matter if the government itself doesn't function correctly, the Democratic leaders need to be seen to be at least trying to do something. None of the 420 Benghazi Blaze It investigations went anywhere obviously but it certainly helped their message
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Al! posted:thats incrementalist talk comrade, see you against the wall (where ill also be lined up) 
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Thank you for the suggestions guys. God bless this dead comedy forum.
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Larry Parrish posted:Officers probably have a different perspective but us enlisted guys typically thought it was crude at best and insulting at worst to go around saying "As a former Airman I..." Or whatever. This concern has come up before but we are looking at including higher enlisted as well
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DaveWoo posted:Clinton Supporters Hit Congress With A Tsunami Of Phone Calls All the money in the world & a failed election later, but Democrats still keep making the wrong calls.
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:louisiana state democrats convinced the republicans in the legislature to work w/ them on fixing the gaping holes in the budget that jindal left b/c it would've shut down the state gov't which includes LSU and therefore tiger football Lots of people down there started shouting "drat LIBERALS, AND THEIR BIG GOVERNMENT WANT TO SHUT DOWN FOOTBALL!!!! THINK OF THE PLAYERS!"
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Venom Snake posted:This concern has come up before but we are looking at including higher enlisted as well As a previous enlisted, I echo the sentiment that nobody who was enlisted gives a poo poo what some enlisted guy has to say, unless they're telling a story about hilarious incompetence so we can all nod our heads. Civilians seem to love it though, so I dunno.
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comingafteryouall posted:yeah, but on the other hand there's a pretty big feeling that Trump made a mockery of the whole presidential process and is ready to attack people's civil rights. So let them freak out a bit it's a healthy reaction to this election. To be fair, Clinton / Lieberman were out against gangster rap / violent video games in the past. Supposedly Clinton blamed the man who made Innocence of Muslims for the attack in Benghazi, and after the attack on Mother Emmanuel called for the Confederate battle flag to be banned. All of these things were attacks on civil liberties, and they were exactly the reason the Democrats (most especially Clinton) have freaked me out in the past, and exactly the reason I abstained from the presidential election, although I did vote on every other issue. E: Sorry to keep commenting on posts that are several pages past, I'm trying to catch up, I swear.
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Not a Step posted:As a previous enlisted, I echo the sentiment that nobody who was enlisted gives a poo poo what some enlisted guy has to say, unless they're telling a story about hilarious incompetence so we can all nod our heads. Where the group was properly utilized during the election it had very positive results. The campaign just didn't make any attempt to organize veterans at all 
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Venom Snake posted:The campaign just didn't make any attempt to organize veterans at all WHAT A SURPRISE
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Yglesias is tweeting about a book called "The New Minority: White Working Class Politics in an Age of Immigration and Inequality" by Justin Gest. Has anybody read it? The excerpted paragraphs he's posted seem interesting. Also Matty has seemed shockingly competent in responding to the loss and preparing to regroup.
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eonwe posted:someone tell me that the democrats are rebuilding and not buying the "trump won because he did a racism that all white people loved" line Please do not forget Comey's October Surprise.
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euphronius posted:Have we considered lying to people and insulting others for votes yet. I understand that this is a joke, but the fact is that the republicans lost even harder than the democrats did, even if the "republican" won. We need to take this election as a repudiation of the status quo on the left, not an overall endorsement of the bile that Trump spewed. How many on our side had to eat poo poo with a knife and fork to avoid irrelevance? OAquinas posted:Has negging the electorate been tried? I mean, Trump is president, it's cool. Making the electorate feel like an object will make them yearn to be seen as a subject. GobiasIndustries posted:Trump negged Iowa pretty hard In hindsight, this sounds like a standup act. GlobglogGroAbgalab has issued a correction as of 03:00 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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MrCussMustard posted:I understand that this is a joke, but the fact is that the republicans lost even harder than the democrats did, even if the "republican" won. We need to take this election as a repudiation of the status quo on the left, not an overall endorsement of the bile that Trump spewed. How many on our side had to eat poo poo with a knife and fork to avoid irrelevance? Hillary.
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Crowsbeak posted:Hillary. Sure, she ended up dining on turds, but I have a hard time believing that this has helped her avoid irrelevance. Larry Parrish posted:Officers probably have a different perspective but us enlisted guys typically thought it was crude at best and insulting at worst to go around saying "As a former Airman I..." Or whatever. It would be simple enough to merely introduce the speaker using his or her rank and possibly in uniform (if this is appropriate, I am from a military family, although one that was never politically active), and not begin by saying anything like that.
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GalacticAcid posted:Yglesias is tweeting about a book called "The New Minority: White Working Class Politics in an Age of Immigration and Inequality" by Justin Gest. Has anybody read it? The excerpted paragraphs he's posted seem interesting. He's hedging his bets on which faction to suck up to.
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GobiasIndustries posted:Trump negged Iowa pretty hard quote:Anyone with a knife want to try that on me? oh man, the possibilities
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I'd love to join your organization, and then immediately schism off into a vanguard party that represents the true ideals of Socialism. I'd love to join your vanguard party, and then immediately schism off into a breakaway faction that represents the true ideals of Socialism.
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good article by reich https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/18/democratic-party-dnc-leadership-trump-clinton-sanders quote:You might think this overwhelming drubbing would cause the Democratic party to reorganize itself into a very different party from the one it’s become – which is essentially a giant fundraising machine, too often reflecting the goals and values of the moneyed interests that make up the bulk of its funding.
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euphronius posted:Or didnt advance imperial agendas in teh region What we need is a young Gore Vidal. Where are the Tleilaxu when we need them most??? GlobglogGroAbgalab has issued a correction as of 03:32 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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DaveWoo posted:Clinton Supporters Hit Congress With A Tsunami Of Phone Calls Pantsuit Nation is pretty great, hopefully they can stick together once people start becoming apathetic again. I live in Kansas and even here, in the middle of the Great Republican Ocean, Pantsuit Nation has weekly get togethers that being out a whole lot of people who never even given a second thought to politics before the election season. My wife has been involved with them since the campaign and has gone from politically apathetic to super involved and determined to be politically active during the Trump presidency, I'm sure there are more stories like hers out there too Hot Dog Day #82 has issued a correction as of 03:31 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:good article by reich Basically we should have been organizing a left wing "tea party" yesterday.
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Hilario Baldness posted:Some of the actual leaders of the leftist wing (who were literally handed the party after last Tuesday's absolute rout) just lined up behind Schumer and Pelosi, the leaders that led them to that rout. You gotta give it to them, they are loyal. euphronius posted:I have no dog in the fight but uh absolute rout? HRC won the popular vote. Hilario Baldness posted:Senate and House elections were awful. Like 4 million less votes. theflyingexecutive posted:downticket was shellacked, who cares that Manhattan went 83% dem? Too many people chose to protest the presidential election by not showing up. Going forward, we need to make clear to anyone we speak to, whether they are on board with our ideals or not, that the best place to make your point, whether by voting for or against a party or not voting for any party (or at all), is at the polls, and not at home, sitting on your couch.
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keith update: this is looking a little unstopable https://keithfordnc.org/news/2016/11/18/keith-ellison-rolls-out-35-additional-endorsements-and-statements-of-support quote:Keith Ellison rolled out 35 additional endorsements and statements of support for becoming Chair of the DNC, including Former United States Secretary of Labor Hilda Solis, United States Senator Tammy Baldwin, Former Iowa Senate Majority Leader and current President of the Democratic Legislative Campaign Committee Mike Gronstal, Members of Congress, City Councilmembers from across the country, the United Steelworkers, and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers.
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Well What Now posted:WHAT A SURPRISE Something something Veterans Administration joke. Something about can't mobilize without crutches. Something about bureaucracy. How long have the Dems had to deal with this? Eight years you say? Rand alPaul posted:Please do not forget Comey's October Surprise. Nah, let's do. Blaming Comey does not help our chances of future success, whether he deserves the blame or not. GlobglogGroAbgalab has issued a correction as of 03:54 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Basically we should have been organizing a left wing "tea party" yesterday. Sure just get me some Koch Brothers money and I'll have your vanguard party off the ground in no time.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:good article by reich thanks for this a lot of points was brought up about how we could move the progressives in but keep funding. It looks like if you really want to have some fundraising operation, you're going to have to resort to small donors, i.e. the people instead of the moneyed interest that's embedded in the apparatus who want to keep the status quo because hey, they're making money~ This probably is going to be harder than it looks, already feels like pulling teeth. I wonder how Ellison will tackle this, if he manages to become DNC chair. I'd guess he'd look to Bernie's example of grassroots networks. Hopefully he'll purge, out with the old, in with the new and not compromise? People who are backing him already, will he be obligated to owe them favors? Lots of questions to be seen.
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MrCussMustard posted:Something something Veterans Administration joke. Something about can't mobilize without crutches. Something about bureaucracy. How long have the Dems had to deal with this? Eight years you say? I doubt Comey changed many minds. Anyone who already through Hillary was a corrupt piece of poo poo already had that confirmed repeatedly by previous leaks. Anyone who was dumb enough to believe everything was a nothingburger and Abuela Did Nothing Wrong was already well practiced at calling everything a vast right wing conspiracy. Comey's October surprise was probably the only true nothingburger of the entire campaign. E: Still, gently caress Comey though.
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