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His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.
Yes I meant this as a good thing myself.

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Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

throw to first drat IT posted:

Merkel apparently announced that because to Trump, TTIP is loving dead.
Every cloud has a silver lining.

Let's see if he makes good on his promise of shitcanning the F-35 clusterfuck as well. (Buy Gripen instead thanks)

Blut
Sep 11, 2009

if someone is in the bottom 10%~ of a guillotine

Collateral Damage posted:

Every cloud has a silver lining.

Let's see if he makes good on his promise of shitcanning the F-35 clusterfuck as well. (Buy Gripen instead thanks)

I can see Trump at the arms fair now, at the Sweden stand. "Do you come with the jet?"

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

Regarde Aduck posted:

Wasn't TTIP terrible?

yes it was

thanks trump

thrump

Pinch Me Im Meming
Jun 26, 2005

Jesus Christ edit your post before it becomes a thing.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Like :marc: but with a bad toupee instead of the party hat.

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Oh God how can Moskovici say "the rules are the same for everyone" without suddenly exploding

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
anyone voting on sunday

no way i'm giving money to the republicans

x420ReDdIT_Br0nYx
Jan 21, 2013


Kurtofan posted:

anyone voting on sunday

no way i'm giving money to the republicans

Think of it as crowdfunding Nadine Morano's stand-up career. I've had more than 2 euros worth of laughter from her this month alone

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

edit: nm

Filthy Hans fucked around with this message at 02:15 on Nov 19, 2016

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich
Does Merkel have the hubris to realize that Europe turning far-right is solely her fault?

breadshaped
Apr 1, 2010


Soiled Meat

throw to first drat IT posted:

Merkel apparently announced that because to Trump, TTIP is loving dead. Hail Satan.

thanks obama trump

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

My Imaginary GF posted:

Does Merkel have the hubris to realize that Europe turning far-right is solely her fault?

No. Considering that she has a PhD in physics, she is probably not that dumb to believe something like that.

Any other questions?

My Imaginary GF
Jul 17, 2005

by R. Guyovich

Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

No. Considering that she has a PhD in physics, she is probably not that dumb to believe something like that.

Any other questions?

What the gently caress did she expect to happen when she offered unlimited welfare to illegal immigrants?

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

My Imaginary GF posted:

What the gently caress did she expect to happen when she offered unlimited welfare to illegal immigrants?

I'm not sure you really understand what the words offered, unlimited, welfare, illegal or immigrants mean.

El Perkele
Nov 7, 2002

I HAVE SHIT OPINIONS ON STAR WARS MOVIES!!!

I can't even call the right one bad.

My Imaginary GF posted:

What the gently caress did she expect to happen when she offered unlimited welfare to illegal immigrants?

are you insane, dumb, or mean, I can't decide.

Perhaps you are just all three. Insane because you state things that cannot be true in any reality, dumb because you believe someone who said stuff that cannot be true in any reality, or mean because you use it to manipulate dumb people.

-neutrino-
Nov 4, 2008

My Imaginary GF posted:

What the gently caress did she expect to happen when she offered unlimited welfare to illegal immigrants?

The public discourse, and so the overton window, regarding the issue has moved really quickly. The measures necessary to prevent the arrivals would probably not have been supported a few years ago.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE

My Imaginary GF posted:

What the gently caress did she expect to happen when she offered unlimited welfare to illegal immigrants?

She never offered anything like that. Also, please note the huge difference between illegal immigrants and refugees.

doverhog
May 31, 2013

Defender of democracy and human rights 🇺🇦
She said that Germany would not turn away refugees fleeing war. That was the wrong thing to say in hindsight, instead she should've said something like "I will force the EU to deal with the refugee crisis with a coherent policy" and then actually do that.

Haramstufe Rot
Jun 24, 2016

Mistakes where made. Still, I am not sure I would call it mistake to clarify our constitution, also since it has been shown now that her words are not the actual reason for more refugees (in fact the amount stagnated afterwards afaik).

Merkel will at some point be considered the only sane and compassionate leader in Europe when literally every country shut down its borders after taking ~10k refugees or did not take any in the first place. I think this will start when ISIS is done and they start uncovering all the hosed up things they did to random civilians. For sure it should be considered the next time the EU claims moral and social superiority in a topic.

Merkel is Protestant and not to turn away refugees is a literally a basic and very clear command of Jesus.
I find it refreshing that any political leader would stick with a clearly unpopular opinion in the own constituency for months and months just because it is morally consistent.

Pinch Me Im Meming
Jun 26, 2005

caps on caps on caps posted:

Mistakes where made. Still, I am not sure I would call it mistake to clarify our constitution, also since it has been shown now that her words are not the actual reason for more refugees (in fact the amount stagnated afterwards afaik).

Merkel will at some point be considered the only sane and compassionate leader in Europe when literally every country shut down its borders after taking ~10k refugees or did not take any in the first place. I think this will start when ISIS is done and they start uncovering all the hosed up things they did to random civilians. For sure it should be considered the next time the EU claims moral and social superiority in a topic.

Merkel is Protestant and not to turn away refugees is a literally a basic and very clear command of Jesus.
I find it refreshing that any political leader would stick with a clearly unpopular opinion in the own constituency for months and months just because it is morally consistent.

If Merkel's legacy manages to eclypse Bismarck's I'd be fine with that.

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

caps on caps on caps posted:

Merkel is Protestant and not to turn away refugees is a literally a basic and very clear command of Jesus.
I find it refreshing that any political leader would stick with a clearly unpopular opinion in the own constituency for months and months just because it is morally consistent.
Well she is the morally just chancellor that resurrected the German far right vote out of her good intents. It's the last part of the previous sentence that neighbor people will remember for obvious historical reasons.

halwain
May 31, 2011
At least Merkel was trying to do something.

Kassad
Nov 12, 2005

It's about time.

Toplowtech posted:

Well she is the morally just chancellor that resurrected the German far right vote out of her good intents. It's the last part of the previous sentence that neighbor people will remember for obvious historical reasons.

I think you're both giving Merkel too much credit and not enough. The rise of the far-right was all but inevitable because of the economic crisis. It's happening practically everywhere. But Merkel's way sure as hell beats the Sarkozy/Valls method of trying to placate the far-right by adopting its views. Guess what: that's not working either.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

El Perkele posted:

are you insane, dumb, or mean, I can't decide.

Perhaps you are just all three. Insane because you state things that cannot be true in any reality, dumb because you believe someone who said stuff that cannot be true in any reality, or mean because you use it to manipulate dumb people.

:pusheen:

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Kassad posted:

I think you're both giving Merkel too much credit and not enough. The rise of the far-right was all but inevitable because of the economic crisis. It's happening practically everywhere. But Merkel's way sure as hell beats the Sarkozy/Valls method of trying to placate the far-right by adopting its views. Guess what: that's not working either.
It certainly does beat it.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

caps on caps on caps posted:

Merkel is Protestant and not to turn away refugees is a literally a basic and very clear command of Jesus.
I find it refreshing that any political leader would stick with a clearly unpopular opinion in the own constituency for months and months just because it is morally consistent.

It's more that she grew up in East Germany and has developed a rather dim view of walls because of that.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Bedshaped posted:

thanks obama trump

"Thanks Trump" doesn't have the right meter to be as memetic as "Thanks Obama".

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Cat Mattress posted:

"Thanks Trump" doesn't have the right meter to be as memetic as "Thanks Obama".
We missed "Thanks Grandma" that's trump election's true crime.

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:

No. Considering that she has a PhD in physics, she is probably not that dumb to believe something like that.

Any other questions?

Ehm, physical chemistry, not physics.
This is important for us that knows the difference. :science:

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


I can't fathom why anyone proclaiming themselves a leftist would actually pay money in order to vote for a corrupt fascist imp, an ultraliberal sadsack, a dilapidated ex-con, a boring bobo, a power-hungry minion, the most dishonest man in France, or a homophobic nobody.

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.




I will feast upon your flesh and then suck your soul

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Flowers For Algeria posted:

I can't fathom why anyone proclaiming themselves a leftist would actually pay money in order to vote for a corrupt fascist imp, an ultraliberal sadsack, a dilapidated ex-con, a boring bobo, a power-hungry minion, the most dishonest man in France, or a homophobic nobody.

sarkozy, fillon, juppé, kosciusko-morizet, le maire, copé, ???

Flowers For Algeria
Dec 3, 2005

I humbly offer my services as forum inquisitor. There is absolutely no way I would abuse this power in any way.


Poor Jean-Frédéric Poisson. Even when I post a picture of him looking like he'll skin a kitten, people gloss over him and his candidacy.

LemonDrizzle
Mar 28, 2012

neoliberal shithead

Flowers For Algeria posted:

I can't fathom why anyone proclaiming themselves a leftist would actually pay money in order to vote for a corrupt fascist imp, an ultraliberal sadsack, a dilapidated ex-con, a boring bobo, a power-hungry minion, the most dishonest man in France, or a homophobic nobody.
You could think of it as paying money for the privilege of making GBS threads on Sarkozy's hopes and dreams if it makes you feel better, I guess.

ElNarez
Nov 4, 2009

LemonDrizzle posted:

You could think of it as paying money for the privilege of making GBS threads on Sarkozy's hopes and dreams if it makes you feel better, I guess.

but then you might as well get a Mediapart subscription

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
i already regret giving 2 euros to the socialist party five years ago

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Flowers For Algeria posted:

Poor Jean-Frédéric Poisson. Even when I post a picture of him looking like he'll skin a kitten, people gloss over him and his candidacy.

the Jean Michel Baylet of the right

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Kurtofan posted:

the Jean Michel Baylet of the right
Except i wouldn't put the PRG in the same bag as his Christian party, still yeah it's about media exposure yes.

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Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747
It's racism. Poisson is discriminated against just because he's a Deep One. There's a real problem with Dagonophobia.

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