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UmOk
Aug 3, 2003

Barudak posted:

It remained the personal property of Han, who apparently according to TFA proceeded to lose it just as readily as he had gained it so its not like the owner gave a drat, and as far as ships go it was never super impressive compounded by fact that by the time of TFA is also 40-60 years out of date. It's a piece of junk.

Yeah it's just a piece of junk. No one cares about it and it definitely does not have a famous history. Why did that young woman on TFA refer to it as "THE Millennium Falcon"? Weird.

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Barudak
May 7, 2007

UmOk posted:

Yeah it's just a piece of junk. No one cares about it and it definitely does not have a famous history. Why did that young woman on TFA refer to it as "THE Millennium Falcon"? Weird.

On one hand, she's established as a fanboy. On the other, more pressing hand, just because on person cares about a historical artifact doesn't mean other people do. Like history is absolutely littered with individuals, sometimes the very same individuals who used the things in question, liquidating significant historical artifacts because the items themselves could be put to another, in their argument, better use. If anything, that's one of the flat-out most realistic bits of the film.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
So is the Millenium Falcon a suped up Trabant or a pimped out Gremlin?

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
The Falcon is just a freighter from Han's home planet, there's thousands more that were made just like it. Somebody wouldn't be able to tell that its THE Falcon just by seeing it sitting in a junkyard.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

dialhforhero posted:

So is the Millenium Falcon a suped up Trabant or a pimped out Gremlin?

Its an Edsel.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

There's apparently a new Star Wars book that reveals that the Rebellion was unsurprisingly started by Separatists who were upset at how the Empire treated them after the Clone Wars.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frz-TUdx3yA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtLCTrlh2lo

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
New Russian poster in english:

feedmyleg
Dec 25, 2004
Does anyone have that "You truly belong here with us among the clouds" image comparison of Alderaan at the end of Revenge of the Sith handy?

feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Nov 17, 2016

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
Oh man you could just shoot them the whole time? If only the team on Hoth had known.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

PostNouveau posted:

Oh man you could just shoot them the whole time? If only the team on Hoth had known.

They don't make 'em like they used to.

KIM JONG TRILL
Nov 29, 2006

GIN AND JUCHE

Canemacar posted:

Honestly, I would have liked it much better if C3PO had just been a protocol droid on Amedala's ship and Anakin had built R2-D2.

It works better logically since of course a leader and diplomat would have a protocol droid, and he spends the rest of the trilogy hanging out with Padme anyway. And when you work in a junkyard fixing up scrap why wouldn't you build a utility droid like R2? Not to mention that being jury-rigged together by a child prodigy would explain R2's unusually strong personality and endless gadgets.

Thematically it flows better too since you have Leia inheriting her mother's droid and legacy while Luke does the same with his father.

Not to mention that R2 goes on to be Luke's good buddy whereas C3PO is just kind of there.

Winifred Madgers
Feb 12, 2002

PostNouveau posted:

Oh man you could just shoot them the whole time? If only the team on Hoth had known.

I'm sure there's some in-universe explanation. Luke says the armor is too strong for blasters in ESB, so either the ones on Hoth are up-armored, or the speeders' blasters are weaker than presumably turbolasers or something being used on these ones.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

They were also assaulting a base on Hoth, so they were presumably extra armored to deal with base defenses.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
The snowspeeders were barely functional in the extreme cold; I always got the impression that they were tossed together quickly and were never meant to hold off an attack force.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

turn left hillary!! noo posted:

I'm sure there's some in-universe explanation. Luke says the armor is too strong for blasters in ESB, so either the ones on Hoth are up-armored, or the speeders' blasters are weaker than presumably turbolasers or something being used on these ones.

Maybe this is the battle that exposed the critical flaw that got patched by Hoth

Kazzah
Jul 15, 2011

Formerly known as
Krazyface
Hair Elf
Maybe the snow made the lasers cold and weak.

Captain Splendid
Jan 7, 2009

Qu'en pense Caffarelli?

Zoran posted:

They don't make 'em like they used to will.

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

jivjov posted:

The snowspeeders were barely functional in the extreme cold; I always got the impression that they were tossed together quickly and were never meant to hold off an attack force.

Counterpoint: they are called snowspeeders.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

homullus posted:

Counterpoint: they are called snowspeeders.

Is that what they called them in the movie?

Officially, they're called T-47 Airspeeders you don't care, but the point is, there's a line near the beginning of the film saying they're having trouble adapting the speeders to the cold temperatures. We call them Snowspeeders because it's the only thing we ever see them do.

Filthy Casual
Aug 13, 2014

dialhforhero posted:

So is the Millenium Falcon a suped up Trabant or a pimped out Gremlin?

I always thought of it as a modified El Camino. Definitely not the kind of thing that would look out of place on blocks in a desert junkyard.

Basebf555
Feb 29, 2008

The greatest sensual pleasure there is is to know the desires of another!

Fun Shoe
The base on Hoth at X-Wings though didn't it? Luke's was there, at least. If they knew the snowspeeders weren't going to do the job why not use the X-Wings?

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Basebf555 posted:

The base on Hoth at X-Wings though didn't it? Luke's was there, at least. If they knew the snowspeeders weren't going to do the job why not use the X-Wings?

Well until Rogue One comes out, I'm going to assume that between episode 5 and 7 improvements to fighter technology allowed the x-wing to function in atmospheric conditions in a combat role.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

Basebf555 posted:

The base on Hoth at X-Wings though didn't it? Luke's was there, at least. If they knew the snowspeeders weren't going to do the job why not use the X-Wings?

The X-Wings were being used as escorts for the evacuating transports.

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

thrawn527 posted:

Is that what they called them in the movie?

Officially, they're called T-47 Airspeeders you don't care, but the point is, there's a line near the beginning of the film saying they're having trouble adapting the speeders to the cold temperatures. We call them Snowspeeders because it's the only thing we ever see them do.

We call them snowspeeders because that's what the box said in 1980.

Godlessdonut
Sep 13, 2005

PostNouveau posted:

Maybe this is the battle that exposed the critical flaw that got patched by Hoth

Pretty much. Difference between this and the Death Star is that there was time for a team of welders to fix the problem.

homullus posted:

We call them snowspeeders because that's what the box said in 1980.



That box is no longer canon.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

PostNouveau posted:

Oh man you could just shoot them the whole time? If only the team on Hoth had known.

I'm expecting the next edition of the Star Wars Technical manual to have a footnote explaining how the AT-AT design was reinforced after events of this movie.

Because heaven forbid we just leave something like this alone.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

homullus posted:

We call them snowspeeders because that's what the box said in 1980.



Man, Kenner was such a giant deal until they just died.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

homullus posted:

We call them snowspeeders because that's what the box said in 1980.



Ah, good old canonicity of toys.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

AlternateAccount posted:

Man, Kenner was such a giant deal until they just died.

Bought by Tonka then bought by Hasbro. The brand still exists but I think just for Star Wars stuff.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

PostNouveau posted:

Oh man you could just shoot them the whole time? If only the team on Hoth had known.

The weaker lasers on the snow speeders couldn't break their armour. A ion blaster could, but only star fighters tend to have those and all the rebel star fighters were assigned to escorting the transport ships. The rebels had already decided the base was a loss so the goal of the snow speeders was to delay the Empire, not stop them entirely.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
'Star Wars': Emilia Clarke Joins Han Solo Film

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

I look forward to hearing her robotically read "I have a bad feeling about this" off cue cards, but with fantastic eyebrows.

If we're lucky she'll speak an alien language the whole movie.

homullus
Mar 27, 2009

PostNouveau posted:

I look forward to hearing her robotically read "I have a bad feeling about this" off cue cards, but with fantastic eyebrows.

If we're lucky she'll speak an alien language the whole movie.

Chewbacca's wife Mala returns to the screen at last! Perhaps the next announcement will be Peter Dinklage as Chewbacca's son Lumpy. All of both their lines are in unsubtitled Wookiee.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

Ah, so she got out of Meereen by fleeing to space. I see now.

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

She's going to play a krayt wrangler and make her ride eat a few Hutts.

Jerkface
May 21, 2001

HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE DEAD, MOTHERFUCKER?

Fallen Rib
If they were smart they'd force her to spend the entire film speaking Huttese. Say what you will but she is actually pretty convincing at acting while speaking made up gobbleygook on game of thrones.

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
The last time I watched Empire Strikes Back, it struck me how pointless the soldiers in the trenches and manning the turrets were during Hoth. The visible Imperials were the AT-ATs (which could only be harmed by the snowspeeders tripping them) and a single AT-ST that only appears in one shot. I get the impression that the battle was supposed to be more like the one in Attack of the Clones, with tons of combined units and the infantry actually doing something other than futility shooting and retreating.

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NorgLyle
Sep 20, 2002

Do you think I posted to this forum because I value your companionship?

Shiroc posted:

The last time I watched Empire Strikes Back, it struck me how pointless the soldiers in the trenches and manning the turrets were during Hoth. The visible Imperials were the AT-ATs (which could only be harmed by the snowspeeders tripping them) and a single AT-ST that only appears in one shot. I get the impression that the battle was supposed to be more like the one in Attack of the Clones, with tons of combined units and the infantry actually doing something other than futility shooting and retreating.
I always thought the Snow Troopers (who again we only see in the scene where the Falcon blasts off) were supposed to be all over the ground around and in front of the advancing walkers but they didn't have the budget to really throw in a gigantic battle between extras.

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