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galenanorth posted:I have trouble with the idea the response, when I've seen people criticize things like superdelegates, primaries are run by private parties, so they can be as anti-democratic as they want to be. By that logic, there's nothing stopping the Republican Party and Democratic Party from just agreeing to not hold primaries and just nominating the same candidate... is there? It's part of the blindness to parties that affected the founders, and people have hewed close since before Nixon, the parties were not so ideologically narrow. But at the same time it'd be like the Queen dissolving Parliament. She certainly could, but it'd be the start of a civil war. E: But I would have said the same thing about a government shutdown, and welp.
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For foreign diplomats, Trump hotel is place to bequote:She said much of the discussion among Washington-based diplomats is over “how are we going to build ties with the new administration.”  Trump is already being read like a book by foreign governments. We're going to get massively hosed as a country on any big league bigly "deals" Trump makes.
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Of course Donald Trump will allow you to pay for play BUT WHY DIDN'T HILLARY STOP IT
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Nov 19, 2016 12:30
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Roast Peggy Noonan on Reagan's crusty femur.
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Pop-o-Matic Trouble posted:Of course Donald Trump will allow you to pay for play BUT WHY DIDN'T HILLARY STOP IT The sad part is that the Obama admin wanted Hillary to stop taking foreign donations to the Clinton Foundation while she was Secretary of State, to at least avoid the perception of corruption. And then watched Hillary and Bill flouted all those ethic rules. Obama could have smacked them down for violating standard ethics agreements, but he didn't. And as a result Hillary got tarred as a corrupt politician. So now we have a president elect who thinks that ethics is a river in Egypt. Thanks Obama. thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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thrakkorzog posted:...ethics is a river in Egypt. Actually it's a county just east of London.
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Inferior Third Season posted:For foreign diplomats, Trump hotel is place to be I expect the levels of blatant corruption to rise to utterly hilarious/horrifing within the first month and that the media will continue to bravely skate over it again. Once more, all Drumf supporters can eat me.
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It's not corruption, you see, because Trump isn't a politician. He's a businessman!
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This could all have been avoided if you just did the sensible thing and auctioned off the presidency each term.
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Gort posted:This could all have been avoided if you just did the sensible thing and auctioned off the presidency each term. That's an interesting and apt analogy for an election.
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citybeatnik posted:To be fair, if the GOP had super-delegates we wouldn't have gotten Trump. As someone from a caucus state, the GOP would've gotten Trump even if there were super delegates.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799972624713420804 SERIOUS ISSUES. Context: Pence saw Hamilton last night and after the play was over one of the cast members (with the rest of the cast linking arms behind him) delivered this statement directly to him: Aaron Burr posted:Vice-president elect Pence, we welcome you and we truly thank you for joining us at Hamilton: An American Musical. We really do. Truly the worst form of harassment possible! Kro-Bar fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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Nov 19, 2016 14:52
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We're not going to use nukes, but this guy really is going to gently caress everything up, isn't he?
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TheBigAristotle posted:We're not going to use nukes, but this guy really is going to gently caress everything up, isn't he? He just cares about the sanctity of theater life. Also Trump is apparently not a safe-space cuck. https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799974635274194947 Kro-Bar fucked around with this message at 15:04 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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Don't count out the nukes! We're only one "I'm not touching you" away from North Korea getting glassed.
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Beefeater1980 posted:Actually it's a county just east of London. Boooooo.
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Kro-Bar posted:He just cares about the sanctity of theater life. He's the president-elect, of course he cares a lot whether the theatre is a safe place.
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Fragrag posted:He's the president-elect, of course he cares a lot whether the theatre is a safe place. 
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Kro-Bar posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799972624713420804 Ah your edit oh the context and made my post redundant
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Kro-Bar posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799972624713420804 If Trump and Pence want a "Safe Space" they should step down. The Presidency is not a place for people who care about hurt feewings.
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Here's what happened. https://mobile.twitter.com/steveking_/status/799828880240635906
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If absolutely nothing else, it's going to be fun as gently caress to watch people poo poo all over these two clowns for 4 years
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Hamilton really is going to be the defining work of art of the Obama presidency isn't it
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NiceGuy posted:If absolutely nothing else, it's going to be fun as gently caress to watch people poo poo all over these two clowns for 4 years Yes, but think of all the rousing applause they'll receive at Cracker Barrel restaurants across this great land.
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I will vote Republican if Trump outlaws Hamilton
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Meanwhile, Mormons continue to hand out the Book of Mormon outside the Book of Mormon. I think freedom of speech on Broadway is safe.
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Swan Oat posted:I will vote Republican if Trump outlaws Hamilton Trump is Hamilton. We're going full frontal federalism, and if you think the Democratic party is in a smoking crater, the economic libertarians line the rim of that same smoking crater.
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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/28/obama-reckons-with-a-trump-presidency/ampquote:“The prescription that some offer, which is stop trade, reduce global integration, I don’t think is going to work,” [Obama] went on. “If that’s not going to work, then we’re going to have to redesign the social compact in some fairly fundamental ways over the next twenty years. And I know how to build a bridge to that new social compact. It begins with all the things we’ve talked about in the past—early-childhood education, continuous learning, job training, a basic social safety net, expanding the earned-income tax credit, investments in infrastructure—which, by definition, aren’t shipped overseas. All of those things accelerate growth, give you more of a runway. But at some point, when the problem is not just Uber but driverless Uber, when radiologists are losing their jobs to A.I., then we’re going to have to figure out how do we maintain a cohesive society and a cohesive democracy in which productivity and wealth generation are not automatically linked to how many hours you put in, where the links between production and distribution are broken, in some sense. Because I can sit in my office, do a bunch of stuff, send it out over the Internet, and suddenly I just made a couple of million bucks, and the person who’s looking after my kid while I’m doing that has no leverage to get paid more than ten bucks an hour.” lol we're hosed
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/28/obama-reckons-with-a-trump-presidency/amp The future is cyberpunk I, for one, will be rocking a pink mohawk
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Trabisnikof posted:Now say that all in six words or less. Get poo poo Done
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If you don't want to see people like Clinton nominated and you think she was a poo poo candidate then get involved with the party. If you don't like what you're hearing from the Democrats get the gently caress in there and do what you can to guide it in a different direction. Meet up with your local party members and help figure out what you're going to do in the next 2-3 years to fix what you're identifying to be the problem. I get that some of you are accelerationists or whatever but there has to be some poo poo you can do on the weekend to get ready for the mid-terms. People are angry right now. A lot of Democrats that sat out are probably regretting it and wish they could do something to make up for it. I know they exist because some started showing up to our local meetings. Nobody expected Trump to win outside of Bill Mitchell. Go help rile people up to GOTV over the next two years (we elect a new governor in VA in 2017 and we are freaking out) so things don't get worse. http://asdc.democrats.org/state-parties/ Stop bitching. Go help. I know some of you are getting involved but for those that aren't, what the gently caress? If you're in Richmond/Henrico VA PM me.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/28/obama-reckons-with-a-trump-presidency/amp I mean, we seemed pretty hosed at the end of the 70s as well (at least, I think we did? I wasn't alive yet, then), but we weren't actually we just needed to rethink our economics. And even then, we did a pretty poor job of it and still got like a decade and a half of decent-to-fair living standards out of it. Assuming Trump doesn't start a nuclear war and assuming the GOP either doesn't hold a permanent electoral majority forever or, failing that, that they finally come to their senses and realize Ayn Rand really was just a lovely author, we'll be lost in the woods until we implement an economics that makes sense and works for people again. I mean Obama is talking about "I know how to do this" but then lists a bunch of poo poo that isn't going to do it. He even admits it at the end of that section that it won't do it since all the social safety nets and job training in the world isn't going to address the fact that the production and distribution links are broken. Of course we're still hosed because of climate change, obviously, but I get the sense you weren't referring to that.
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Look at it this way: Trump is likely going to end up as the Jimmy Carter of the right, except he's not even going to build houses for homeless people after leaving office.
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Kro-Bar posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/799972624713420804 How do conservatives square the circle of wanting traditional values and masculinity and all this poo poo, and then acting like you have the emotional fragility of a loving three-year-old? Apparently the feelings of the average white guy in America are roughly as fragile as a Faberge egg. I don't even know how that statement could've been made more respectful, and yet tons of people appear to be freaking out over it and this is somehow building support for Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dum, gently caress my life I just don't understand anything anymore.
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galenanorth posted:I have trouble with the idea the response, when I've seen people criticize things like superdelegates, primaries are run by private parties, so they can be as anti-democratic as they want to be. By that logic, there's nothing stopping the Republican Party and Democratic Party from just agreeing to not hold primaries and just nominating the same candidate... is there? The whole shrug of "oh they're private entities they can do what they want" kind of assumes that people will still show up to vote for whoever they ram through the process. 2016 was a massive reality check on that
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PT6A posted:How do conservatives square the circle of wanting traditional values and masculinity and all this poo poo, and then acting like you have the emotional fragility of a loving three-year-old? Double standard. Never criticize the conservative president.
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PT6A posted:How do conservatives square the circle of wanting traditional values and masculinity and all this poo poo, and then acting like you have the emotional fragility of a loving three-year-old? Everything I'm seeing is squarely on the side of the Hamilton folks in this.
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Lmao at going to watch the musical version of the Obama presidency as the guy who campaigned on erasing the Obama presidency and expecting everything to be peachy. Let alone going to musical theater at all as the guy who loves curing the gays with psychological torture. It's like if Lincoln was shot at a white supremacist benefit barbecue.
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