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Combed Thunderclap posted:My pet theory is that Trump regards Kushner as a younger version of himself he can live vicariously through/trust, and it's really gross to watch. I literally can't think of another reason why Trump trusts this random guy so much other than he's a loyal, Jewish carbon copy of Trump. Also, I can't believe Sessions would ever use the justice department to carryout his crusade against weed. It would be the most hilarious hill for them to die on. Legalized marijuana support is at an all time high, even among Republicans.
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cheese posted:Since Trump's views on women are firmly medieval, then I can only imagine he sees himself as some 16th century Duke whose biological sons are pampered dandies unfit to rule, forced to marry his beautiful daughter off to a son-figure worthy of succeeding him on the throne. Trump wouldn't be wrong about his sons being unfit to do anything, they're terrible. Probably has something to do with their father being narcissistic. The success of the Trump administration will hinge on whether he's willing to go through with programs that poll very poorly or not. The wall, slashing medicare or social security, and the war on drugs all poll poorly but they are all things Republican politicians still love.
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I'm seeing a lot of "Trump is a puppet master and his Hamilton Tweets are why we aren't paitently dissecting his infrastructure plan" hot takes and it's really stupid.
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cheese posted:Since Trump's views on women are firmly medieval, then I can only imagine he sees himself as some 16th century Duke whose biological sons are pampered dandies unfit to rule, forced to marry his beautiful daughter off to a son-figure worthy of succeeding him on the throne. Lol, the most Trump thing ever, to Christie his own sons. cheese posted:Also, I can't believe Sessions would ever use the justice department to carryout his crusade against weed. It would be the most hilarious hill for them to die on. Legalized marijuana support is at an all time high, even among Republicans. I would have thought the same about gay marriage, but I wouldn't put it past the Republicans to try and get it overturned in the next couple of years.
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cheese posted:Also, I can't believe Sessions would ever use the justice department to carryout his crusade against weed. It would be the most hilarious hill for them to die on. Legalized marijuana support is at an all time high, even among Republicans. Uhh, yeah, this isn't a hill it's possible to die on yet. Sure support is high, but defending it too loudly still makes you "that weed politician."
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Mustached Demon posted:The weed crusade will fly under the radar as sexual rights slowly erode away. Teenage trumpets on reddit are already contorting themselves to defend why weed is bad and you should feel bad. I expect the same from a sessions crackdown on porn and cheetos. Hell, gutting net neutrality means ISPs will probably put the sites they like into an exclusive $10 a month shitlord package and they'll still beg mom and dad to shell out for it without a sense of irony.
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Peven Stan posted:Teenage trumpets on reddit are already contorting themselves to defend why weed is bad and you should feel bad. Yeah the alt right is a minority.
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cheese posted:Since Trump's views on women are firmly medieval, then I can only imagine he sees himself as some 16th century Duke whose biological sons are pampered dandies unfit to rule, forced to marry his beautiful daughter off to a son-figure worthy of succeeding him on the throne. Approaching Trump from a medieval perspective is really the best way to understand him most of the time. I also suspect Sessions wouldn't touch weed so he can focus his energies on accomplishing more insidious racist poo poo but we really have no way of knowing exactly how much leeway everyone's going to be given to flex their muscles on their random pet policy issues. AKA Pseudonym posted:I'm seeing a lot of "Trump is a puppet master and his Hamilton Tweets are why we aren't paitently dissecting his infrastructure plan" hot takes and it's really stupid. The apparent inability for media, social or otherwise, to handle a Gish Gallop, one of the oldest tricks in the book, is really disturbing. Like, that's all there is to him. He's a walking, talking Gish Gallop. We've known this for years. It's not that complicated. Also what infrastructure plan? No one's interested in reporting on a lack of policy or planning, it seems, especially when the angle you inevitably have to take is "This man is incompetent."
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AKA Pseudonym posted:I'm seeing a lot of "Trump is a puppet master and his Hamilton Tweets are why we aren't paitently dissecting his infrastructure plan" hot takes and it's really stupid. Yeah, Trump connected with millions of Americans because he argues about politics in the exact same way millions of Americans do. Through the lens of insanely trite and stupid events that signify a culture war. He's not some puppet master, he's just your dumbass Republican friends who get upset about Starbucks with actual power.
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speng31b posted:Uhh, yeah, this isn't a hill it's possible to die on yet. Sure support is high, but defending it too loudly still makes you "that weed politician." Grover Norquist used to be respectable.
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speng31b posted:Uhh, yeah, this isn't a hill it's possible to die on yet. Sure support is high, but defending it too loudly still makes you "that weed politician."
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Mustached Demon posted:The weed crusade will fly under the radar as sexual rights slowly erode away. I think the weed crusade will make the average straight white people trump supporter angrier than sexual rights or minority issues
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AKA Pseudonym posted:I'm seeing a lot of "Trump is a puppet master and his Hamilton Tweets are why we aren't paitently dissecting his infrastructure plan" hot takes and it's really stupid. trump doesn't need to be a machievallian genius to see what plays well with a crowd. he's doing exactly what he did during the campaign, which is to castigate coastal elites and emphasize minor grievances as a way of drawing attention away from his own failures or, in musical terms: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW3MIixEps4 fake edit: the gish gallop comparison is pretty good too. QuoProQuid fucked around with this message at 18:53 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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PT6A posted:I've looked several times and I still don't see any actual criticism. I'm glad that there is still some civility to be found in the face of adversity.
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Can we get the US posters complaining about how the Democrats gonna crat' to just run for local elections and change the party from the inside? Isn't there like a tonne of otherwise dead end positions that are unopposed and only take like 13 votes to win? Use those as a means of gaining credibility; run as an independent if it's deeply red (But privately agree to caucus with the Dems if they give you some funding). I think being a goon can be an asset in this, claim you represent the internet generation of people just tired with the same out of touch political crap and that you'll bring a more objective perspective. Wasn't there one Goon who won an election by 13 votes against a crazy dude? Whats his take now?
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Lawman 0 posted:Tulsi gabbard 2020. Well I guess Muslims will have been liquidated by then anyway so her positions on them won't be an issue
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Pollyanna posted:If it were going to do this, it would have happened already. It's been less then two weeks and half the cabinet isn't staffed yet so what the gently caress did you expect? The chaos and disfunction is coming. Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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Lol everyone posting about the Hamilton bullshit and everyone glossing over the fact that Trump just settled a lawsuit against Trump University for $25m on the grounds that it was a bait-and-switch. And he made a Twitter post to sound like *he* won a lawsuit. The controversy hides the scandal indeed.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It's been less then two weeks and half the cabinet isn't staffed yet so what the gently caress did you expect? The chaos and disfunction is coming. That's a non-issue. Usually the announcements come later for the major positions. The real issue is how long it took for them to contact the departments needed to start the transition.
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iospace posted:That's a non-issue. Usually the announcements come later for the major positions. The real issue is how long it took for them to contact the departments needed to start the transition. You misunderstand me, I know the staffing is a non issue. I just mean that since half the positions have yet to be staffed the chaos and infighting is going to take a bit longer to start.
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BgRdMchne posted:If faithless electors do elect Clinton or fail to elect a president, how will the military and intelligence agencies react? It's up in the air. Something like this has happened before with the Compromise of 1877.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Can we get the US posters complaining about how the Democrats gonna crat' to just run for local elections and change the party from the inside? Isn't there like a tonne of otherwise dead end positions that are unopposed and only take like 13 votes to win? Use those as a means of gaining credibility; run as an independent if it's deeply red (But privately agree to caucus with the Dems if they give you some funding). Local politics tend to be dull and thankless affairs dominated dominated heavily by personal drama and local machines. Yes, a locally-elected office can serve as a stepping stool to higher positions, but very few people are willing to put in the years of unpaid work needed to make themselves a credible force within the party and the community. It requires a lot of schmoozing, grovelling, and "waiting for your turn." Also, please do not highlight that you are a goon if you have any interest in politics. At best, an opponent will point out that you are participating on a hyper-partisan forum where off-colour jokes are the norm. At worst, someone is going to dig through your post history to find you at your worst and will send those to everyone you know. BgRdMchne posted:If faithless electors do elect Clinton or fail to elect a president, how will the military and intelligence agencies react? i imagine that they'll be busy dealing with mass riots
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cheese posted:From a Justice Department perspective, I assume Sessions would go after states (like CA and Mass) that have passed state laws that are in direct conflict with Federal regulations. The success of recreational bills this election will almost certainly lead to more states attempting this in the next election cycle. Fighting tooth and nail to stop this would absolutely be a huge waste of their time and energy. You're assuming that they're going to be acting rationally though.
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BgRdMchne posted:If faithless electors do elect Clinton or fail to elect a president, how will the military and intelligence agencies react? If faithless electors did that, the country would be in chaos.
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Spacebump posted:If faithless electors did that, the country would be in chaos. It's ok because it won't happen do not delude yourself.
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Spacebump posted:If faithless electors did that, the country would be in chaos. There could be a couple faithless electors, but we'd need something like 37 of them to take the election to the House or give it to Clinton. That's like .00001% likely, based on my extensive mathematical research.
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BgRdMchne posted:If faithless electors do elect Clinton or fail to elect a president, how will the military and intelligence agencies react? If they elect Clinton they'd probably breathe a sigh of relief for a moment until they realize that the shittiness of the past 8 years was only at, like, a 6 and is being turned up to 11. Nobody doubts she'd be able to staff a government and probably do it within 3 days since everyone here knows she'd almost certainly frontloaded all that poo poo assuming she'd walk to a win. The GOP would light up like lewis black's character in inside out, full-on shrieking torch mode. The past 8 years would look like a peaceful dream in comparison. FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 19:44 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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TildeATH posted:Grover Norquist used to be respectable. No he didn't.
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Mustached Demon posted:It's ok because it won't happen do not delude yourself. Kro-Bar posted:There could be a couple faithless electors, but we'd need something like 37 of them to take the election to the House or give it to Clinton. That's like .00001% likely, based on my extensive mathematical research. I don't think there is any chance of it happening, just pointing out the reaction if it did. FAUXTON posted:If they elect Clinton they'd probably breathe a sigh of relief for a moment until they realize that the shittiness of the past 8 years was only at, like, a 6 and is being turned up to 11. The economy would be better than what's about to happen. It's going to get worse than the end of the Bush years, buckle up.
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Mustached Demon posted:It's ok because it won't happen do not delude yourself. Says the increasingly nervous pundit. e: QuoProQuid posted:Also, please do not highlight that you are a goon if you have any interest in politics. At best, an opponent will point out that you are participating on a hyper-partisan forum where off-colour jokes are the norm. At worst, someone is going to dig through your post history to find you at your worst and will send those to everyone you know. Just like Trumps past remarks hurt him? Raenir Salazar fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Nov 19, 2016 |
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Spacebump posted:The economy would be better than what's about to happen. It's going to get worse than the end of the Bush years, buckle up. Absolutely. GOP state governments would revolt like hell, GOP house/senate caucuses would probably just keep on filibustering, but global stability would return and the markets would calm the gently caress back down.
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BgRdMchne posted:If faithless electors do elect Clinton or fail to elect a president, how will the military and intelligence agencies react? If Faithless electors change the outcome of the race it would probably lead to massive civil unrest and street battles. So I'm guessing they would react by noping the gently caress out of any involvement. Spacebump posted:I don't think there is any chance of it happening, just pointing out the reaction if it did. It'll probably take 2-3 years for the economy to go back into a hard recession. Start saving.
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BgRdMchne posted:If faithless electors do elect Clinton or fail to elect a president, how will the military and intelligence agencies react? This would be unprecedented (and will not happen) but they would follow along with the transition of power just fine. The electoral college being an antidemocratic sack of poo poo gave us Trump and they had no problem with it, because it's all quite Constitutional, as would be a giant faithless-elector revolt. What you should be worried about in this ludicrous hypothetical is the Trumpets and the Republican Party at large, which absolutely would not take that lying down. Picture Bush v Gore but far, far worse.
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cheese posted:Also, I can't believe Sessions would ever use the justice department to carryout his crusade against weed. It would be the most hilarious hill for them to die on. Legalized marijuana support is at an all time high, even among Republicans. They're not going to publicize any of it and Breitbart / Fox News won't report it so they aren't going to die at all. Black people and political enemies will get tossed in jail because the cops "found weed" on them and a corrupt horrorshow DEA will raid countless legal shops so they can get cash for Trump's friends. There will be no outrage. Quorum posted:Which is odd as this is the easiest possible thing to spin with a gracious public statement. "We appreciate the concerns of the cast about our historic administration, and in the spirit of Hamilton, we hope that the Trump presidency will serve as an example of how the American dream allows anyone to succeed yoogely with only hard work and determination" blah blah blah. I like that this poo poo is so terrifying that you're writing Good Trump Presidency fanfiction just to make yourself feel better.
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Raenir Salazar posted:Just like Trumps past remarks hurt him? 1. You are not Donald Trump 2. Donald Trump's remarks were not an asset during the campaign 3. Local politics is not national politics 4. Please do not humiliate your poor mother
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