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I'm actually more interested in IMSA than WEC for 2017 right now.
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1500quidporsche posted:I'm actually more interested in IMSA than WEC for 2017 right now. WEC is going to be this: LMP1-H: Porsche LMP1-P:  LMP2:  GT-Pro: Ferarri GT-AM: Ferarri
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Nov 17, 2016 06:45
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My predictions for 2017 WEC results: LMP1-H: Toyota (let me have this one dream) LMP1-L: no one, Bykolles will not finish enough and the ACO will decide that they are not deserving of a title, unless it's for being on fire. LMP2: Rebellion will win again just to spite Bykolles GTE Pro: Porsche will have their revenge on the BoP overlords and demolish Ford and Ferrari GTE Am: The hilarious afro-pick diffuser Astons will reign supreme with no natural Ford predators.
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Nov 17, 2016 06:56
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And then in 2018 LMP2 becomes LMP1?
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Nov 17, 2016 09:50
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Have ByKolles even confirmed their return?
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Nov 17, 2016 14:15
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They have, and SMP have announced they're working with Dallara to build an LMP1 car for 2018.
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Nov 17, 2016 14:34
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godDAMN
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Nov 17, 2016 14:35
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24 hours of daytona is the best race in the world and this car owns and i am v v pleased
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Nov 17, 2016 14:43
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Heads up for fans of hilarious clusterfucks, TCR has a grid of 27 cars for the final races in Macau tomorrow. It'll be streaming on their Youtube channel from 1:50am GMT/8:50pm EST.
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Nov 18, 2016 07:34
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F3 Quali is showing on livestream https://livestream.com/macau-gp/events/6620992
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Nov 18, 2016 10:15
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WEC spec Dallara has broken cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_usoy3WwKVc Looks a lot like the oreca. The only WEC spec car we haven't seen yet is the Riley. On the IMSA side, still the Cadillac (announcement now bumped until December) and Nissan to go.
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Nov 18, 2016 22:03
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Are the IMSA prototypes legit to run at Le Mans? Are we expecting many of them to do so? Given the collapse of LMP1 currently in progress the LMP2 field could be insane next year.
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Nov 18, 2016 23:32
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Roller Coast Guard posted:Are the IMSA prototypes legit to run at Le Mans? Are we expecting many of them to do so? For those running in WEC trim, yup. For those running in DPi trim (Mazda, Cadillac, and Nissan so far), nope. ACO initially told the teams yes they could run their aero and engines and they would be BoPed, then told them yes but they would have to run WEC aero pieces, and now has told them they cant bring their engines or aero and basically need a whole extra car. ACO sucks rear end. Honestly, not many US P2 teams ever really bothered with LeMans because the schedule basically means you have to have an entire extra car and crew over in France like Shank did last year. Plus the whole thing with budgets and junk.
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Nov 18, 2016 23:45
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WEC LMP2 cars all have to run the Gibson engine, too.
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Nov 18, 2016 23:46
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wicka posted:WEC LMP2 cars all have to run the Gibson engine, too. exactly. Bodies are spec on a per-maker basis as now, just all the engines are spec too. And because the DPIs will inherently be faster, there's a small chance in the future that they could be BoP'd down to where the "world" P2s are. Plus I believe ACO wants manufacturers to stay out of P2, especially at Le Mans. Hope the (presumed) Caddy and Nissan kits both look good. Good chance that the Nissan could become a customer-focused project. And fingers very crossed that this AMG Mercedes rumored project comes true as well. They may be based on the P2s, but it would be good racing to have four factories involved.
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Nov 19, 2016 10:13
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I view thew current P2 offerings similar to NASCAR, really. You get one engine and a choice of chassis and (slightly) different bodies. DPi feels more like Indy Car. You get a chassis, stick your own "aerokit" on it and use your own engine. harperdc posted:And fingers very crossed that this AMG Mercedes rumored project comes true as well. They may be based on the P2s, but it would be good racing to have four factories involved. I can see AMG Mercedes trying LMP1 over DPi, but having Merc in DPi would be very welcome. They already have massive success with a hybrid formula in F1, though I don't know how much ACO would approve of them dropping in pretty much the same powertrain into an LMP1 car.
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iospace posted:I can see AMG Mercedes trying LMP1 over DPi, but having Merc in DPi would be very welcome. They already have massive success with a hybrid formula in F1, though I don't know how much ACO would approve of them dropping in pretty much the same powertrain into an LMP1 car. The ACO made a big deal in the original announcement of the P1 hybrid regulations that an F1 powertrain would be ok, but I don't see Mercedes ever going back to the top class at Le Mans. They've "come back" twice since they left forever after the 1955 accident and both times they've only avoided repeating it by there being no spectators out the back of the circuit. Everyone knows about the 1999 mess but it happened in 1985 as well:  I just don't think they would consider it worth the PR risk, even if nothing happened this time, this history being dragged back into the limelight would be enough to put them off.
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Nov 19, 2016 18:29
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I can't see anyone paying for both a top flight F1 and LMP1 program
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Nov 19, 2016 19:54
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Proud Christian Mom posted:I can't see anyone paying for both a top flight F1 and LMP1 program If most of the cost for a LMP1 program is the drivetrain, Mercedes is already there. They'd have to modify the hybrid part to comply with the LMP1 regulations (namely use of it in the pits, different charge/discharge rates from F1 to LMP1), but the groundwork is already there.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:15
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What a podium with the 2 Audi teams with Mark Webber up there with his Porsche team.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:26
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AMG was/is interested in IMSA because the US is far and away the largest market for AMG products. They also like the direct marketing to their owners, through the 'fan villages' and such that IMSA does. None of that is accomplished in P1 for 50x the price.
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Nov 19, 2016 20:39
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Cygni posted:AMG was/is interested in IMSA because the US is far and away the largest market for AMG products. They also like the direct marketing to their owners, through the 'fan villages' and such that IMSA does. None of that is accomplished in P1 for 50x the price. Fair point
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Nov 19, 2016 20:43
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Cygni posted:AMG was/is interested in IMSA because the US is far and away the largest market for AMG products. They also like the direct marketing to their owners, through the 'fan villages' and such that IMSA does. None of that is accomplished in P1 for 50x the price. Only thing they'd have to do is take the AMG GT3 engine, drop it in an LMP2 so make new mounts, new bodywork, and they're off and racing for a fraction of the cost and they get all that kind of attention.
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BMB5150 posted:Only thing they'd have to do is take the AMG GT3 engine, drop it in an LMP2 so make new mounts, new bodywork, and they're off and racing for a fraction of the cost and they get all that kind of attention. DPi I think is the best deal for marketing payoff in motorsport, at least from a NASCAR hating american like myself
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Nov 20, 2016 03:45
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TCR at Macau is on, already been three crashes and a red flag for people who like shitshows
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Alain Post posted:TCR at Macau is on, already been three crashes and a red flag for people who like shitshows I'm gonna watch it later today, but that's what I was hoping for. There were already some hella crashes in the F3 qualifying race.
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Nov 20, 2016 04:14
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Holy poo poo this is hilarious. Right after the race went back to green the track is now blocked.
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Nov 20, 2016 04:18
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gret posted:Holy poo poo this is hilarious. Right after the race went back to green the track is now blocked. So... every other race at Daytona or Talladega then, eh?
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Nov 20, 2016 05:22
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LMAO now a car just spun by itself on a parade lap.
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Macau is less a motor race and more performance art e) i'm the guys in the Youtube chat who are shocked that a race at Macau is poorly organized Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nov 20, 2016 05:31
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Is FIA running this?
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Nov 20, 2016 06:24
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Welp and an upside down GT3 car.
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Nov 20, 2016 07:24
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LOL and the car that went upside down and led to the red flag gets awarded with the win. What a shitshow.
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Nov 20, 2016 07:32
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gret posted:Welp and an upside down GT3 car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RAVdsXmnZg
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Nov 20, 2016 07:48
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This is like the most morose podium ever for a race where nobody died or were seriously injured.
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Nov 20, 2016 07:53
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"Let's give the guy who was passed cleanly on the circuit, then hit the wall & flipped upside down, the World Cup" - FIA
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Nov 20, 2016 07:57
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dsriggs posted:"Let's give the guy who was passed cleanly on the circuit, then hit the wall & flipped upside down, the World Cup" - FIA I'm totally cool with giving someone a trophy for a gently caress up that hilarious.
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Nov 20, 2016 09:16
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At least the F3 race was pretty good and relatively clean.
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Nov 20, 2016 09:22
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gret posted:LOL and the car that went upside down and led to the red flag gets awarded with the win. What a shitshow. Wait, what? They seriously let someone who flipped win?
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Red flag count-back rules sometimes lead to funny results like that (see: Bathurst '92)
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