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Save time and put them in schools. Every school councillor now has a large metal cage to hold all Image of actual cage used in Australian school*  * don't worry, it's only for containing the mentally handicapped.
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Nov 20, 2016 17:34
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The UN general assembly is expected to vote tomorrow on a hostile resolution tabled by the African group to suspend the activities of Vitit Muntarbhorn, the UN's first Independent Expert on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity appointed at the end of September tasked by the United Nations Human Rights Council to investigate violence and discrimination targeting LGBTI people worldwide. They are seeking to indefinitely delay his work from commencing and are challenging the legality of his mandate, essentially arguing that focusing on LGBTI rights distracts from other forms of discrimination and that they have no place in the conventional international human rights framework and the mandate to investigate LGBTI discrimination represents a breach of their national sovereignty. The vote has been delayed for a bit as furious negotiations have been taking place behind the scenes. Latin America, the US and EU all oppose the resolution but there are indications China and India will be voting in favour. The vote is expected to be extremely tight and could possibly pass, South Africa has surprised a lot of people by supporting the move. Not good times kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nov 20, 2016 17:47
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kustomkarkommando posted:The vote has been delayed for a bit as furious negotiations have been taking place behind the scenes. Latin America, the US and EU all oppose the resolution but there are indications China and India will be voting in favour. The vote is expected to be extremely tight and could possibly pass, South Africa has surprised a lot of people by supporting the move. WTF is South Africa up to? I know the ANC has slid into the crazytown of the one-party state, but this on top of pulling out of the ICC is bizarre considering they used to be so gung-ho about multilateralism. (I ask this as a non-expert about South African politics.)
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Nov 20, 2016 19:22
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Combed Thunderclap posted:WTF is South Africa up to? I know the ANC has slid into the crazytown of the one-party state, but this on top of pulling out of the ICC is bizarre considering they used to be so gung-ho about multilateralism. They are trying to maintain their regional political primacy basically, rather than going out on a limb against general sentiment from other African nations they are towing the line so as not to alienate allies and maintain their standing on the continent. Nigeria and South Africa have been having a bit of a regional political struggle over who can lay the claim to be Africa's "leader" since the Nigerian economy overtook South Africa in 2014 and foreign countries began to take an increasing interest in Nigeria what with their important position in combating West African jihadist groups, South Africa is feeling a bit undermined essentially and it has a bit of a reputation for being condescending to other African nations so consider these moves an attempt to strengthen bridges to maintain their influence kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nov 20, 2016 19:55
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I posed this in the RWM thread as well, but I think it is relevant enough to warrant a crosspost here.Prester Jane posted:So on the topic of the Trump administration's plans for the future of education in America I have some interesting scuttlebutt to share. I recently checked in on some of the behind the scenes activity happening in Accelerated Christian Education and gleaned a few interesting tidbits. Mind you, I can't verify any of this, so take it with a grain of salt. That said, here are the highlights. Edit: Added the text I meant to crosspost. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nov 20, 2016 20:23
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Nov 20, 2016 20:25
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Prester Jane posted:The net effect of all this is it will make it possible for a school to harass an LGBT student until they drop out, at which point they can be sent by their parents (or in blood red states ordered by local courts) to attend one of these transformation centers. So if you are wondering what the plan to put LGBT youth into camps looks like, whelp. Burn these people to the goddamned ground.
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Nov 20, 2016 20:35
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 Welp holy poo poo. We should do an expose on this.
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Nov 20, 2016 20:38
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kustomkarkommando posted:They are trying to maintain their regional political primacy basically, Much thanks for your insights. Also the evangelicals finally getting their dream of a religiously segregated school system is a waaaay too plausible nightmare 
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Nov 20, 2016 21:01
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Prester Jane posted:I posed this in the RWM thread as well, but I think it is relevant enough to warrant a crosspost here. God, this sounds scary  Have to say I'm glad I don't live in the US right now, hope the best for all of you over there.
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Nov 20, 2016 21:15
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For those who have not read my thread, this video is an actual advertisement for A.C.E. This is what they think makes parents *want* to put their children in A.C.E. Warning! The abyss WILL gaze back into you if you watch this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBUw4iWepk0 And this is a video of British activist going through what is supposed to be a 9th grade (year 10 in the British system) history textbook. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_2tCMlHEBI Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 21:29 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nov 20, 2016 21:23
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Bad news, the probably next French president, François Fillon, isn't exactly LGBT friendly, he's a social conservative, voted against gay marriage, and wants to restrict adoption rights available to same-sex couples. Don't think he's going to ban same-sex marriage or anything, but there's probably won't be much progess in the next five years.
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Nov 21, 2016 09:19
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Kurtofan posted:Bad news, the probably next French president, François Fillon, isn't exactly LGBT friendly, he's a social conservative, voted against gay marriage, and wants to restrict adoption rights available to same-sex couples. On the bright side, Fillon is now the favorite because Sarkozy flamed out of Les Républicains' primary; Sarko went so far as to promise to ban gay marriage and then dropped that promise only this January. Now we can just cross our fingers that the far-right FN doesn't get into power (I don't think they will but it's possible my faith is misplaced).
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Nov 21, 2016 09:47
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Combed Thunderclap posted:(I don't think they will but it's possible my faith is misplaced). Oh you sweet summer child. Let me tell you about a little man named President-elect Trump.
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Nov 21, 2016 14:28
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Oh you sweet summer child. Let me tell you about a little man named President-elect Trump. http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/01/how-marine-le-pen-is-winning-frances-gay-vote/ It's still a party also full of homophobes, sure. It's just not their discourse.
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Nov 21, 2016 14:41
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It's a weird spot where Le Pen tries to appeal to gay voters whereas Fillon is after the homophobic vote
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Nov 21, 2016 14:53
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A blocking amendment to protect the UN expert on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity from suspension was successful (by just 7 votes mind). Turned out reports that South Africa would back the motion were erroneous and a clutch of other nations where convinced to abstain. https://mobile.twitter.com/HoudartUN/status/800745544029126656 A welcome victory for the advancement of LGBTI rights
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Nov 21, 2016 18:57
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kustomkarkommando posted:A blocking amendment to protect the UN expert on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity from suspension was successful (by just 7 votes mind). Turned out reports that South Africa would back the motion were erroneous and a clutch of other nations where convinced to abstain. And a terrifying proof of the ebbing power of the "liberal consensus" of the last eight years. Time will tell whether the right-wing wave becomes more powerful or if this is its high water mark, but a lot of the things we've taken for granted as victories over the last decade or so are going to be on the chopping block regardless. Toplowtech posted:Let me tell you about the gay people (one of the married to his companion) in the FN leadership and the FN seduction of the gay vote: Milo Y would fit right in! This is just proof that the Republican Party is actively shooting itself in the foot with its anti-gay, anti-minority rhetoric; there's a portion of each population that would love to vote Republican if they'd just make like the FN and be subtle about their bigotry.
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Nov 21, 2016 19:02
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kustomkarkommando posted:A blocking amendment to protect the UN expert on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity from suspension was successful (by just 7 votes mind). Turned out reports that South Africa would back the motion were erroneous and a clutch of other nations where convinced to abstain. Thank god, I couldn't bear another backpedal. Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Oh you sweet summer child. Let me tell you about a little man named President-elect Trump. Holy poo poo how could I not have seen it Trump = Frog God = froggies =  
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Nov 21, 2016 20:29
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This is an idle thought conjured up by my armchair historians fear that America is now approaching the bloody part of the Roman Republic, but why haven't alt right groups tried to adopt the "manly" homosexuality of the Greeks/Romans? It has a white enough pedigree for the shitheads and it still lets them make fun of women and weaker men. Like if they wanted to split off part of the left, it seems opening up to accepting homosexuality on some level is the obvious target, as the tons of examples of LGBT people who would fit in on the right if they didn't have to vote to protect their rights to exist.
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Nov 23, 2016 01:01
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Eimi posted:This is an idle thought conjured up by my armchair historians fear that America is now approaching the bloody part of the Roman Republic, but why haven't alt right groups tried to adopt the "manly" homosexuality of the Greeks/Romans? It has a white enough pedigree for the shitheads and it still lets them make fun of women and weaker men. Like if they wanted to split off part of the left, it seems opening up to accepting homosexuality on some level is the obvious target, as the tons of examples of LGBT people who would fit in on the right if they didn't have to vote to protect their rights to exist. Because you can't really choose to be gay ? It's just how you are .
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Nov 23, 2016 01:04
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Eimi posted:This is an idle thought conjured up by my armchair historians fear that America is now approaching the bloody part of the Roman Republic, but why haven't alt right groups tried to adopt the "manly" homosexuality of the Greeks/Romans? It has a white enough pedigree for the shitheads and it still lets them make fun of women and weaker men. Like if they wanted to split off part of the left, it seems opening up to accepting homosexuality on some level is the obvious target, as the tons of examples of LGBT people who would fit in on the right if they didn't have to vote to protect their rights to exist. The religious right remains an enormous part of the republican coalition. One of the reasons Trump won is because they swallowed any qualms they may have had about electing the manifestation of the whore of Babylon in order to get an antiabortion justice on the Supreme Court. Any attempt to make nice to LGBT people is going to run there The religious right remains an enormous part of the republican coalition. One of the reasons Trump won is because they swallowed any qualms they may have had about electing the manifestation of the whore of Babylon in order to get an antiabortion justice on the Supreme Court. Any attempt to make nice to LGBT people is going to run the risk of alienating them.
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Eimi posted:This is an idle thought conjured up by my armchair historians fear that America is now approaching the bloody part of the Roman Republic, but why haven't alt right groups tried to adopt the "manly" homosexuality of the Greeks/Romans? If they were willing to acknowledge the basic human dignity of people who were like them, but deviated in even relatively minor ways, they wouldn't be such abhorrent shitheads in the first place.
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Nov 23, 2016 01:06
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Eimi posted:This is an idle thought conjured up by my armchair historians fear that America is now approaching the bloody part of the Roman Republic, but why haven't alt right groups tried to adopt the "manly" homosexuality of the Greeks/Romans? It has a white enough pedigree for the shitheads and it still lets them make fun of women and weaker men. Like if they wanted to split off part of the left, it seems opening up to accepting homosexuality on some level is the obvious target, as the tons of examples of LGBT people who would fit in on the right if they didn't have to vote to protect their rights to exist.  Man2Man Alliance is definitely a thing, but I'm not sure how serious a thing and how it fits into the wider 'manosphere'/alt-right.
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Nov 23, 2016 01:24
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Hollismason posted:Because you can't really choose to be gay ? It's just how you are . I know, I'm more asking why they don't try and overcome their total anti LGBT stance. Granted it's not stopped them from gaining ground all over the world, but it one of the big things that gets cited as the public moving to accepting LGBT people while they demonize us. I guess it was just a stupid thought exercise really.
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Eimi posted:I know, I'm more asking why they don't try and overcome their total anti LGBT stance. Granted it's not stopped them from gaining ground all over the world, but it one of the big things that gets cited as the public moving to accepting LGBT people while they demonize us. I guess it was just a stupid thought exercise really. The "alt-right" has a really poorly defined ideology outside of nationalism and hatred of immigration. Some people who call themselves "alt-right" are literal Nazis who want to bring back concentration camps for gays while others wear "gays for Trump" shirts to rallies. Using "pro-gay" arguments as a wedge to support anti-Muslim policies is a common alt-right tactic for example, they probably don't actually give a poo poo about gays but they don't view them as a top priority like traditional conservatives do. MaxxBot fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Nov 23, 2016 02:28
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Eimi posted:I know, I'm more asking why they don't try and overcome their total anti LGBT stance. Granted it's not stopped them from gaining ground all over the world, but it one of the big things that gets cited as the public moving to accepting LGBT people while they demonize us. I guess it was just a stupid thought exercise really. It's really because the olds wouldn't be o.k. with it, and they still run most of the GOP. If it were up to young conservatives, they would gladly declare the war over with marriage rights and open their arms to self-loathing gays like Milo, eager to prove their anti-PC chops by making GBS threads on women and minorities just like their straight bros. Sorry, you were specifically talking about the alt-right, not conservatism in general. The alt-right doesn't really care about gays, but they have an extreme dislike of PC culture and anything associated with liberalism which puts them in conflict with a lot of LGTBQIA issues. The self-loathing types I mentioned above are welcome in the alt-right as long as they spew the right poo poo, and embrace being called "human being" because it's just a word, man. there wolf fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Nov 23, 2016 02:38
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In reference to Prester Jane's speculations about the infiltration of American education by the absolute worst of the creepy cultish religious right under Trump, well... https://twitter.com/Independent/status/801147316296159232
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Nov 23, 2016 03:44
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Eimi posted:This is an idle thought conjured up by my armchair historians fear that America is now approaching the bloody part of the Roman Republic, but why haven't alt right groups tried to adopt the "manly" homosexuality of the Greeks/Romans? It has a white enough pedigree for the shitheads and it still lets them make fun of women and weaker men. Like if they wanted to split off part of the left, it seems opening up to accepting homosexuality on some level is the obvious target, as the tons of examples of LGBT people who would fit in on the right if they didn't have to vote to protect their rights to exist. The concept of manly homosexuality is kind of dead as far as the right is concerned. Despite the idea of gays all being sissies being really new in the scheme of things it's just how most modern folks see things and it'd be a very hard sell. Unrelated but came across this: TX Lawmaker Wants To Force Schools To Out LGBT Students To Parents quote:Texas tea party state Sen. Konni Burton (pictured with Sen. Ted Cruz) has filed legislation that would effectively require public school employees to out LGBT students to their parents. loving Texas.
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Nov 23, 2016 04:37
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RagnarokAngel posted:TX Lawmaker Wants To Force Schools To Out LGBT Students To Parents gently caress them. I'm assuming that's going to just pass through right? 
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Eimi posted:gently caress them. I'm assuming that's going to just pass through right? It's still November, so I think we're still in the phase where the legislators (of all parties) throw out their dumbest, can't pass ideas so that they can show their voters that they're representing their interests. So mostly posturing.
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Quorum posted:In reference to Prester Jane's speculations about the infiltration of American education by the absolute worst of the creepy cultish religious right under Trump, well...
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Nov 23, 2016 12:20
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Forgall posted:I'm sure Internet Atheist crowd that pulled for Trump as hard as they could will be delighted. Internet Atheists love making GBS threads on women more than they hate bible-thumpers and never let them tell you otherwise.
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Nov 23, 2016 12:28
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New York State is considering the Prevention of Emotional Neglect and Childhood Endangerment Act that would ban conversion therapy for minors. some good progress in new york  and A+ acronym choice for the bill's name
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Instant Sunrise posted:and A+ acronym choice for the bill's name OK that is really quite clever.
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Forgall posted:I'm sure Internet Atheist crowd that pulled for Trump as hard as they could will be delighted. Good news, instead of Falwell he went with Mrs. Voucherize the Entirety of Detroit! The Internet atheists love school choice, as it allows them to use public money to send their kids to schools with no black kids. Or they would, if they had kids. Plus, in all of the states where that's actually going to happen, the amount of regulation there will be is approximately zero, so who can say "public money for Accelerated Christian Education," kids?
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Quorum posted:Good news, instead of Falwell he went with Mrs. Voucherize the Entirety of Detroit! The Internet atheists love school choice, as it allows them to use public money to send their kids to schools with no black kids. Or they would, if they had kids. Plus, in all of the states where that's actually going to happen, the amount of regulation there will be is approximately zero, so who can say "public money for Accelerated Christian Education," kids? Ungh. The last time I thought closet nazi's had seized control of our government the meds took that away, (God bless you Geodon) but for some unknown reason not so much this time. This is just a bit of gallows humor, I am fine. For me best way to confront the abyss is to find something to laugh about and just laugh in its face no matter how you actually feel. If you can do that, sometimes even the abyss will hesitate for a moment.
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Well I've got a bit of good news, In Austria Norbert Hofer the leader of Austria's far right (it was founded by Nazi's and SS officers were its first leaders) has lost the Presidential election. The post is largely ceremonial but it will still be a national post and a sign of the FPO's strength. Unsurprisingly in addition to being an unpleasant fellow all round Hofer was rather homophobic. His opponent the victor, Van der Bellen is a moderate centrist and does support same sex marriage and adoption. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38202669 Also in Gambia (sorry The Gambia) Yahya Jammeh a man who once bragged that he would personally slit the throat of every homosexual in his country has been defeated in the Presidential elections. The new president Adama Barrow probably want be friendly to the LGBT Gambians, but he has already realesed political prisoners and pledged to join the Commonwealth and the International Criminal Court and dismantle Jammeh's authoritarian structures, so it should have some background improvement. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04ht746
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The Cherokee Nation will now formally recognize same sex marriages. http://www.tulsaworld.com/homepagel...29c4ca126a.html quote:While a tribal court recently avoided ruling on the issue, the Cherokee Nation will begin recognizing same-sex marriages under an opinion issued Friday by the tribe’s attorney general, who said that Cherokees practiced something similar to gay marriage in past centuries.
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