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darth_pizza posted:Personally, I think Keith is amazing. Some people dislike his style but it's straight out of Network and that's rad. That's why I don't like him, it comes off as rehearsed and insincere like he's just playing a character.
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Republicans posted:That's why I don't like him, it comes off as rehearsed and insincere like he's just playing a character. I don't think rehearsed or scripted is in any way a bad thing, but then again i'm an armchair leftist who enjoys Aaron Sorkin shows, so he's right up my proverbial alley. and by alley i mean rear window and by rear window i mean back door and by back door i mean my rump
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Mister Macys posted:To be honest, in this age of mergers and consolidation, I figured by this point that the big Networks outright owned their affiliate stations (the same way corporate radio took over), and that they (as employees) had no say in the matter. For obvious reasons, TV networks aren't interested in spending billions to buy out all of their current affiliates, even if it were allowed. Also it's always funny when people complain "corporate radio took over" when about 95% of radio's history in the US was under the domination of national radio corporations. Networked radio in the same way as network TV was in charge from the late 20s to the late 50s, and then most of those moved more or less seamlessly into successor networks that were more heavily focused on music. At certain points in time in the 30s and 40s, as much as 1/2 of all the stations in the country would be putting out the same program, and most of the other half would only have 2 or 3 programs airing across them.
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darth_pizza posted:Personally, I think Keith is amazing. Some people dislike his style but it's straight out of Network and that's rad. I'm more in favor the dirtbag left than ever before. All the nagging criticisms that might've rung true for me before have all been washed away in the purity of Trump's horror.
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darth_pizza posted:I don't think rehearsed or scripted is in any way a bad thing, but then again i'm an armchair leftist who enjoys Aaron Sorkin shows, so he's right up my proverbial alley. Yeah, I think Aaron Sorkin is lame as hell so there you go.
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Nov 19, 2016 21:26
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fishmech posted:For obvious reasons, TV networks aren't interested in spending billions to buy out all of their current affiliates, even if it were allowed. I was under the impression that there were more independent radio stations in the past, and they are the ones that had been acquired and basically EA'd into irrelevance.
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Mister Macys posted:I was under the impression that there were more independent radio stations in the past, and they are the ones that had been acquired and basically EA'd into irrelevance. Kind of sort of in a way but that was also when payola existed so they were really controlled by the recording industry. College radio stations also existed (and still do) in pretty big numbers but what matters is really the overall listenership. Like yeah public access TV and public access radio ultimately exist but they tend to be ignored.
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Rexicon1 posted:I'm more in favor the dirtbag left than ever before. All the nagging criticisms that might've rung true for me before have all been washed away in the purity of Trump's horror. I feel like all my past criticisms are still trye, but the fool was me all along for thinking for even a second that anything mattered Cena/Warren 2020
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Epic High Five posted:I feel like all my past criticisms are still trye, but the fool was me all along for thinking for even a second that anything mattered Make this the national anthem and I'll devote every second I have to the campaign.
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Nov 19, 2016 22:53
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Chilichimp posted:Watch Colbert on TV, not Youtubes. They can't tell if you're watching OTA if you aren't a Nielsen house, but yeah people should totally support him. He's been doing great content-wise, lately.
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MizPiz posted:Make this the national anthem and I'll devote every second I have to the campaign. I always preferred "Basic Thuganomics" his first theme, back when he was a nothing heel feuding with Lesnar. I thought Rock was the one running in 2020 though.
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Mister Macys posted:I was under the impression that there were more independent radio stations in the past, and they are the ones that had been acquired and basically EA'd into irrelevance. ToxicSlurpee posted:Kind of sort of in a way but that was also when payola existed so they were really controlled by the recording industry. College radio stations also existed (and still do) in pretty big numbers but what matters is really the overall listenership. Like yeah public access TV and public access radio ultimately exist but they tend to be ignored. There were congressional hearings in the early 1960s and it was officially made illegal and there were restrictions put in place that gave more control to program directors than individual DJs, which really just meant there was just one person you had to bribe/influence to play your song rather than several at each station. As the record labels consolidated, it was easier and easier for some marketing guy to basically go "if you want [big star] to be on your station or play your festival, make sure you play the poo poo out of [lesser act on same label] which came to a head with a second round of Congressional hearings in the 1980s. The real nail in the coffin of "independent radio" and honestly radio in general as a thing that matters (though technology progressing helped nothing) was the Telecommunications Act of 1996, which had a bunch of direct influence in shaping what our cellular phone industry looks like, loosened restrictions of how much cross-media ownership could exist in a single market, and also had a provision that gave the FCC a blank check to "review" policies on the regular, which meant that after Bush got elected in 2000, guess what? They decided to loosen those restrictions even more, all of which really accelerated companies like Clear Channel, Cumulus, SInclair and others buying up every possible station they could across the country, often several in the same market. Clear Channel alone (now iHeartMedia) owns 850 stations nationwide (at one point it was over 1,000 before they shut down some in markets they already had stations in). They also owned a bunch of concert venues and promotion companies before spinning that off as Live Nation n 2005. And if you think that owning a ton of radio stations and (formerly) concert venues/promotions led to a shitload of shady "we're going to cut a deal to push this act like crazy on 1,000 stations to sell tickets to 100 shows we are also promoting, sure would be nice if you give us nebulous marketing payments and free stuff, record label" didn't happen, you would be dead wrong. They even got fined by the FCC (for $8000!) for doing so, and were pushed to spin off LiveNation. Now their thing is cutting deals with record labels to just pay them royalties directly without including BMI/ASCAP into the equation, but at this point I don't actually know anyone who actually listens to pop radio so if they all collude to 'break' Iggy Azalea I'm not even sure who it's hurting anymore, the whole thing is already dead. Anyway, I am pretty sure a lot of this helped build the right wing AM radio empire too, but I don't know nearly as much about that side of the radio biz of the past twenty years.
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Like, whatever else is bad about them, whatever, I just hate how lovely and generic ClearChannel stations sound compared to basic any local options. I'm sure someone else owns my lovely local alternative station but at least the DJs still reference (local area) and have personality beyond generic rock guy or generic hip hop guy. Also the commercial breaks on CC stations are longer and more frequent (gosh I can't imagine why). Oh and their rebranding as iHeartRadio was so transparent and stupid, much like how Comcast has started using Xfinity branding everywhere, like people are far too loving dumb to put 2 and 2 together. (They are). Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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DrNutt posted:Oh and their rebranding as iHeartRadio was so transparent and stupid, much like how Comcast has started using Xfinity branding everywhere, like people are far too loving dumb to put 2 and 2 together. (They are). The difference there is that you frequently have no choice but Comcast for your internet. In some places you can have Verizon instead but they're also becoming increasingly lovely. Try living without the internet these days; it's basically impossible.
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ToxicSlurpee posted:The difference there is that you frequently have no choice but Comcast for your internet. In some places you can have Verizon instead but they're also becoming increasingly lovely. Try living without the internet these days; it's basically impossible. This is true, and why I consider myself fortunate to live in a place with competition and now even fiber infrastructure. I haven't had to have Comcast (blazing fast Xfinity!) for almost ten years now. And that was only because I lived in an apartment building that Comcast had locked down. I'm sure this will change with the coming of Trump's FCC though.
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Mister Macys posted:I was under the impression that there were more independent radio stations in the past, and they are the ones that had been acquired and basically EA'd into irrelevance. There were periods of a lot of truly independent stations, but they were usually when radio was first an experimental thing, and then later when FM started to be a thing (though a lot of early FM was just playing the exact same audio as a parent AM station, just with higher quality. That eventually was restricted.). But in both of those cases most people weren't able to listen to the really independent stuff. Edge & Christian posted:Clear Channel alone (now iHeartMedia) owns 850 stations nationwide (at one point it was over 1,000 before they shut down some in markets they already had stations in). That sounds like a lot and all, but there's around 11,000 commercial radio stations in the country these days, and then tons more educational/non-profit/religious stations. As a point of comparison, in 1940 there were about 1,000 commercial radio stations, and NBC's Red Network ran as full time as was allowed on more than 120 of them. Not even something like now where like 100 of IHM's stations are rap, 200 are country, 200 are top 40 or whatever, all 120+ of those stations would run Fibber McGee and Molly at once, or some other old time radio show. And at certain times, even more stations would have part-time agreements to run the most popular shows simultaneously even if they spent a lot of their broadcast day doing local stuff. Frankly it was an insane level of control, especially in terms of the advertising revenue.
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https://twitter.com/LeadFastNow/status/798988324295700480quote:This means that loan worthiness might start to rely on factors outside of family credit history, like evaluating a college’s “student success” rate after graduation (e.g. landing a job) and the marketability of a student’s chosen major. In this model, loan eligibility will favor the engineer over the artist. in other words, if youre anything other than STEM, youre hosed. im a film major so looks like the jokes on me! my nightmarish guess is bannon and co. will make the barrer to entry for STEM a living hell for anyone non-white/lower income/bad credit BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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NikkolasKing posted:I always preferred "Basic Thuganomics" his first theme, back when he was a nothing heel feuding with Lesnar. Frankly, I don't know why we have to wait for 2020 when we could have made America Woo again.
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Race Realists posted:my nightmarish guess is bannon and co. will make the barrer to entry for STEM a living hell for anyone non-white/lower income/bad credit Yeah, it'll be some bullshit thing like private student loan reimbursements that kick in only after the first consecutive 12 month period of on-time minimum payments. Basically, there's zillions of ways to design programs in ways that only benefit already-rich white people and they'll probably use all of them in the name of preventing fraud that doesn't exist. Meanwhile, actual student loan fraud being committed by private companies calling themselves universities will run rampant and go unpunished. ErIog fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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I remember when Trump was satire... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pduRbz7IbIo
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This is the ultimate comedy. Fresh from their disdain for Bernie's "Free College for the lower and middle class," the Republican party pushes legislation that makes college a luxury of the already-rich again. Community colleges will loving collapse in on themselves like Neutron stars and the landscape will be dotted with educational black holes.
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What is the endgame of something like that? Is there even one? Do they really think they can keep America competitive on the world stage by only having an elite few educated? If only a few can afford education, and the uneducated are paid very little, who is left to purchase the products of the ruling class? There's so much wrong with conservative ideology I don't even know where to start.
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Levantine posted:What is the endgame of something like that? Is there even one? Do they really think they can keep America competitive on the world stage by only having an elite few educated? If only a few can afford education, and the uneducated are paid very little, who is left to purchase the products of the ruling class? There's so much wrong with conservative ideology I don't even know where to start. They want to give their little cumstains every advantage they can get over everyone else, consequences be damned.
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Levantine posted:What is the endgame of something like that? Is there even one? Do they really think they can keep America competitive on the world stage by only having an elite few educated? If only a few can afford education, and the uneducated are paid very little, who is left to purchase the products of the ruling class? There's so much wrong with conservative ideology I don't even know where to start. So for the Sheldon Adelsons and Koch brothers of the world, the endgame is irrelevant as long as they're still Sheldon Adelson or the Koch brothers. MizPiz posted:They want to give their little cumstains every advantage they can get over everyone else, consequences be damned. Kilroy fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Rexicon1 posted:I'm more in favor the dirtbag left than ever before. All the nagging criticisms that might've rung true for me before have all been washed away in the purity of Trump's horror. we need more angry people. it seems like Right Wing radio has cornered the market on righteous (or self-righteous) anger.
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So on the topic of the Trump administration's plans for the future of education in America I have some interesting scuttlebutt to share. I recently checked in on some of the behind the scenes activity happening in Accelerated Christian Education and gleaned a few interesting tidbits. Mind you, I can't verify any of this, so take it with a grain of salt. That said, here are the highlights.
The net effect of all this is it will make it possible for a school to harass an LGBT student until they drop out, at which point they can be sent by their parents (or in blood red states ordered by local courts) to attend one of these transformation centers. So if you are wondering what the plan to put LGBT youth into camps looks like, whelp.
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The NYT has a nice textbook example of how rightwing bullshit pops up out of nowhere and quickly becomes common knowledge regardless of its truth or falsehood. Some random conservative in Austin noticed all these charter buses lined up on the day after the election and jumped to the conclusion that they must be the buses for bringing those "paid protesters" into town to hold protest marches: The NYT article shows that within a day or two, this had been retweeted enough to make it into widely read rightwing sites like Free Republic, /r/The_Donald, and Gateway Pundit, all of which seem to have assumed that it was incontrovertible truth that the buses were for creating fake-grassroots protests. Thing is, those are charter buses with the giant logo of the company that owns them (Coach USA) clearly visible on the side. Actual reporters spent a few minutes on the phone with Coach USA and ascertained that the buses had actually been hired for the day by a local software company that happened to be holding a technical conference in town, not anything to do with the election. The Austin American-Statesman newspaper ran this explanation three days after the election, and the guy who tweeted the original pics took them down and then posted a retraction, but by then the Internet's attention had wandered and "those buses bringing protesters into Austin" was permanently locked in the minds of many of the people in the rightwing Internet bubble.
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GutBomb posted:Also, what about having people bussed in makes them think the protesters are not genuine anyway? Do they think people who bus to work aren't really going to work and are just pretending? I think you already have your answer to that.
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Mister Macys posted:I remember when Trump was satire... But he still is, it just isn't funny anymore.
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Has anyone else heard the rumor that Milo Yiann... is going to be Trump's press secretary? I've seen a bunch of reports, but no confirmation.
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Jurgan posted:Has anyone else heard the rumor that Milo Yiann... is going to be Trump's press secretary? I've seen a bunch of reports, but no confirmation. Rumors and jokes, nothing more. Don't believe anything about any possible official roles until you see articles about it in the mainstream press that don't just cite anonymous sources. There have been allegations of the transition team intentionally "leaking" incorrect information in order to embarrass the press.
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Levantine posted:What is the endgame of something like that? Is there even one? Do they really think they can keep America competitive on the world stage by only having an elite few educated? If only a few can afford education, and the uneducated are paid very little, who is left to purchase the products of the ruling class? There's so much wrong with conservative ideology I don't even know where to start. These people are oligarchial socipaths. They want money for the people they believe are winners and to crush everyone else. This is why I have become a totalitarian. Such thought such be banned and the expression of ti should get one sent to camp, for reeducation.
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Jurgan posted:Has anyone else heard the rumor that Milo Yiann... is going to be Trump's press secretary? I've seen a bunch of reports, but no confirmation. Laura Ingraham is the current top name being thrown around.
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