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Could have used your enthusiasm before the election Maybe if they didn't crush it and tell it to fall in line they would've had it at election time  More and more this past election is about agency.
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blamegame posted:its just like benghazi.... 
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:DWS: 'If I was trying to rig the outcome of the primary, trust me, I could have' the dnc isn't powerful and hasn't been as long as i've paid attention to them, which is, maybe 7 or 8 years? so i think there's like a weird game going on where you try to assert relevance but also innocence when the truth is really just impotence
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CherryCola posted:this is really important We can bitch and show how much we think it's a bad idea (which we should be and are doing), but he's president elect. Barring specific circumstances he can literally hire anyone and it won't be an issue until something real fucky happens. We can claim Bannon's a nazi and a terrible loving person for the website he runs and such, but unless he's outright saying these things as literal governmental position to be enforced then there's literally nothing we can do about the appointments. If you tried to bring it to court however you'd probably lose and then be on the other side of a defamation lawsuit for doing that. The only real power we have in these situations is more local support and organization to prepare for the worst. Unlike Germany we have the lessons of the past and the states will not go quietly. It is more likely to evolve into a civil war if any conflict, which if that's the case then there's nothing to be done but to organize local support and prepare. And I'm sure most politicians want to avoid exposing themselves to any danger of that. At the very best we'd then have local support and prep for 2018, which should be the main goal. We got a 2 month waiting period until the curtains rise for the real show. Lets hope it's not another Call of Duty. I wouldn't mind an actual Civil War call of duty/fps videogame though ThndrShk2k has issued a correction as of 15:48 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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CherryCola posted:this is really important This tweet... whatever claims that Hitler went from power to Final Solution in 4 months. Hitler gained power in 1933. The Final Solution began between 1940-1942.
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:DWS: 'If I was trying to rig the outcome of the primary, trust me, I could have' wow this lady can do it all (except win elections)! I always love it when the people in charge of an organization get that deer the headlights look and start talking about how things are not under her control like people claim. Grey Fox has issued a correction as of 15:57 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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LegoPirateNinja posted:This tweet... whatever claims that Hitler went from power to Final Solution in 4 months. Hitler gained power in 1933. The Final Solution began between 1940-1942.
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Nov 20, 2016 15:59
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if i don't like DWS, does that make me an anti-semite? even though it also means i also dislike the big money, heavily jewish constituency she represents?
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LegoPirateNinja posted:if i don't like DWS, does that make me an anti-semite? even though it also means i also dislike the big money, heavily jewish constituency she represents? it would probably be one of the first attacks leveled should you try and voice your opinion
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Nov 20, 2016 16:05
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Lactose Is Wack posted:it would probably be one of the first attacks leveled should you try and voice your opinion i bet some people resent those kinds of attacks. i wonder if they vote.
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LegoPirateNinja posted:This tweet... whatever claims that Hitler went from power to Final Solution in 4 months. Hitler gained power in 1933. The Final Solution began between 1940-1942. But what was the lead up? It didn't come out of nowhere.
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LegoPirateNinja posted:i bet some people resent those kinds of attacks. i wonder if they vote. they don't 
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:These are the same Clintons who were "masters of retail politics" folks. Bill is a smart savvy politician who understands the human aspect of politics and the importance of hitting the campaign role to connect with the average voter. Hillary was a weird technocrat who made lots GE campaign blunders in hindsight like trying to run up the score, having a overreliance on technology and mostly ignoring midwest. Even the best midwest state of Minnesota was won by only 1.4%
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Lactose Is Wack posted:it would probably be one of the first attacks leveled should you try and voice your opinion i wasn't aware dws had fans, anywhere
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Nov 20, 2016 16:37
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In a DWS interview should said weed must remain illegal since it's a gateway drug.
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like even in the hillariest of hugboxes the only statements on dws were "i hope she gets fired out of a cannon into the sun"
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Fulchrum posted:Mainly because Bernie was being a dick about the entire thing and not taking it seriously, putting up loving Jill Stein supporter Cornel West to represent him on the committee. You need to knock this off. Now.
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etalian posted:In a DWS interview should said weed must remain illegal since it's a gateway drug. That element of the DNC is just cryogenically frozen in the 90s. How is the party so out of date?
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Lawman 0 posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/800339165829283840 he's the minority leader and that's his president, and he's from new york an... oh.
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Also lolling how they hired Robby Mook even though he oversaw multiple failed midterm campaigns.
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Yinlock posted:i wasn't aware dws had fans, anywhere she was re elected in her district
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Lactose Is Wack posted:she was re elected in her district It's a safe blue district in FL, that's pretty much well controlled by the party machine. Also I find it really funny how Hillary lost both MI and WI in the primary. You would think that these defeats would have clued her in that she had some weaknesses to address in rust belt states.
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etalian posted:Also lolling how they hired Robby Mook even though he oversaw multiple failed midterm campaigns. his education in classics from an ivy league university was a deciding factor.
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Lactose Is Wack posted:his education in classics from an ivy league university was a deciding factor. It's amazing how much more practical David Axelrod is by comparison especially when you read interviews or how he roasted the very bad Hillary campaign.
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etalian posted:It's a safe blue district in FL, that's pretty much well controlled by the party machine. that is part of my problem with the whole thing. within the party you have a mindless voting bloc (i know not limited to the dnc) who will keep these kinds of individuals in plan when they should be purged from within
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It's weird, because I live in Idaho and the local party chapter's website is great. A button to sign up automatically for a newsletter, a calendar with events that has 3-4 per month for the next few months. If you go into town the building is on main Street, bigass sign and a picture of a blue donkey. Even a sign that says "Free wifi, come on in!" And if you do walk in the receptionist is invariably sweet and happy seeming. My point is: This is loving Idaho. How is this operation in a town of less than 30k better than one in loving New York City?
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Lactose Is Wack posted:his education in classics from an ivy league university was a deciding factor. oh no, not.. classics! horror! scandal!!
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Yinlock posted:like even in the hillariest of hugboxes the only statements on dws were "i hope she gets fired out of a cannon into the sun" I mean I think she was fine as a DNC head but as a politician I can't really pretend she has any value other than a reliable D vote. We should probably have someone who's better than that in the seat, yea. Lactose Is Wack posted:that is part of my problem with the whole thing. within the party you have a mindless voting bloc (i know not limited to the dnc) who will keep these kinds of individuals in plan when they should be purged from within I thought the lesson from this election was not doing poo poo like calling voters 'mindless' or does that only apply to one kind of voter
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etalian posted:It's amazing how much more practical David Axelrod is by comparison especially when you read interviews or how he roasted the very bad Hillary campaign. at least axelrod studied poly sci and had a lengthy history volunteering / working the election game, alont with proven success Mook was in the right place at the right time? Or knew somebody? I guess i shouldn't be surprised i see this kind of behavior in my every day life. Loyalty/longevity/cronyism trumps qualifications and work ethic every time.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I mean I think she was fine as a DNC head but as a politician I can't really pretend she has any value other than a reliable D vote. We should probably have someone who's better than that in the seat, yea. I think individuals re-electing DWS qualify as members of the mindless segment of people who will vote the D ticket regardless. There are members of the republican party who do the same.
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Lactose Is Wack posted:at least axelrod studied poly sci and had a lengthy history volunteering / working the election game, alont with proven success I remember reading a nice barb from Axelrod on how despite changing the whole team, the Hillary campaign was still fighting the same problems it had in the 2008 primary. Now their incompetence gave the US a Trump presidency and administration of guys basically picked from the CPAC speaker list.
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blamegame posted:oh no, not.. classics! horror! scandal!! looks loke we got an Aristophanes knower here boys...... get his clothes and throw em in the wine dark sea, we'll teach him a lesson ere rosy-fingered dawn chases Selene from the sky
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I'm still mad about learning Aristophanes. If I was taught colbert in fifty years I would be mad and think it was irrelevant. Let alone 500+
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etalian posted:It's amazing how much more practical David Axelrod is by comparison especially when you read interviews or how he roasted the very bad Hillary campaign. are there particular articles/episodes where he does this? I'd like to hear his thoughts but I'm way behind on the axe files
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:DWS: 'If I was trying to rig the outcome of the primary, trust me, I could have' Well, she was fired from her job, and the reasons there could have been for that to happen were (a) she was trying to rig the outcome of the primary, or (b) incompetence so yeah I guess so (e: in reality of course it was both) LegoPirateNinja posted:if i don't like DWS, does that make me an anti-semite? even though it also means i also dislike the big money, heavily jewish constituency she represents? first one no, second one maybe loquacius has issued a correction as of 17:38 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:At least Trump may accidentally revive local manufacturing when global trade falls apart and fracking becomes profitable again during the Iran War on Islam. Global trade isn't going to fall apart Someone else is just going to fill in the blanks if the US pulls out
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Mark Blyth describes why the DNC ended up being such a failure http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/11/18/mark_blyth_global_trumpism_and_the_revolt_against_the_creditor_class.html quote:And I'll leave you with one set of numbers that I found today, which is just an absolute for this whole thing. In 2015, Wall Street Bonuses, not regular compensation, bonuses, seven years after they were bailed out with the public purse, totaled $29.4 billion dollars. A reminder that bad dems argued a wage increase isn't a good thing even though wall street bonus packages are double the value of all the minimum wage payments this year.
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etalian posted:Mark Blyth describes why the DNC ended up being such a failure I just want someone in this country with a shot at real power to be opposed in some way to Wall Street There needs to be some kind of counterbalance against this bullshit
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etalian posted:Also lolling how they hired Robby Mook even though he oversaw multiple failed midterm campaigns. He kept those off his cvv.
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