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Ularg posted:How does a 3v3 mode take 3-5 minutes to get enough players?
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I see. I got my 3v3 and 1v1 boxes now. Had panic attacks for every match. gently caress anxiety.
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Nov 20, 2016 08:37
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Roadhog has become an absolute must in 3v3. Watching a Pharah with anything less than pin point rocket accuracy try to win against Hog is just sad.
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Funny you say that, I had a 3v3 game earlier with the best Widow I've ever played with where one round, our soldier died immediately and then widow+me as zen beat the intact 3 person opposing team which had a rein  and then a couple rounds later, that same widow was the only person left vs. a Roadhog and a Mei and won the game for us. miracles are real boysVeryslightlymad posted:Buy me a duplicate of your monitor.
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Nov 20, 2016 10:19
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Semper Fudge posted:I wish all of the OW skins weren't just holiday themed ones, there's a lot of room for cool skins that are being left on the table by adhering to a single theme. the hots skins for zarya and tracer are really bad. like I'd rather use cyber goth over that one why do they both have skins where all blizzard did was make some bits of their clothes+their gun bigger
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Nov 20, 2016 10:25
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Manatee Cannon posted:the hots skins for zarya and tracer are really bad. like I'd rather use cyber goth over that one Every HotS character has a skin exactly like that, you unlock them by getting that particular hero's level (purely a function of time played like Overwatch's numerical levels for XP) up to 10. Yeah, they're pretty dumb.
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Kai Tave posted:Every HotS character has a skin exactly like that, you unlock them by getting that particular hero's level (purely a function of time played like Overwatch's numerical levels for XP) up to 10. Yeah, they're pretty dumb. Yes, these are called Master skins and they can actually bought with the in-game currency whereas all the other skins are real money purchases. The quality between these varies greatly and some just look like they quickly glued on some extra parts (especially the older ones). Just another reminder that it's a good thing Overwatch is not a F2P game.
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Nov 20, 2016 12:12
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Okay, so I've turned sour on TF2 because, even though I'd been playing that game since 2008, I got sick on constantly MVPing poo poo teams, with poo poo players that don't use teamwork or communicate or seem to be even slightly aware that it's a computer that they're operating and not a toaster. I've been hoping that Overwatch would be different but so far, during this free weekend, I haven't won a single game. Not a single game. I'm fine with admitting that a good chunk of those losses are due to me being not entirely used to the game itself, but, holy gently caress, not a single victory. Without any hyperbole whatsoever, every single time, I've been the only one with a mic. Every single time, I've been the only one trying to coordinate. Every single time, I've been the only one who seems to understand team balance and hero choice. Every single time, I seem to be the only person paying attention to an objective. Again, this is no hyperbole. I have literally been keeping tally. This weekend was a litmus test to see if I would be willing to drop some dosh on this game and, so far, it has--loving somehow--been a more irritating experience than TF2. Is this just an Asia thing? I live in Japan, and if there's one thing I've learned from 6 years of playing games here is that no one on this continent ever communicates or uses teamwork in a pub. Is it a free weekend thing? I know that they tend to bring in the poo poo players by the hordes. Is it a solo queue thing? I have a sneaking suspicion that, unless I lure my irl or online friends back to games like this, I am doomed to be on the retard teams. I have an FPS itch that needs scratching and, for all the hype, this game is just not scratching it.
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Nov 20, 2016 14:04
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I mean, I don't and won't ever use a mic when I'm playing with pubbies.
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Nov 20, 2016 14:13
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Roger Explosion posted:I have an FPS itch that needs scratching and, for all the hype, this game is just not scratching it. Have you tried Rainbow Siege? I mean it's wildly different from TF2/Overwatch but may be more organized than these? Macaluso posted:I mean, I don't and won't ever use a mic when I'm playing with pubbies. also this
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Nov 20, 2016 14:20
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overwatch is a lot faster paced than tf2 and a lot smaller as well, so when you suck it matters more. and, no offense, but if you haven't won any games it's because you're not playing as well as you think you are. the mmr will be matching you against either brand new players or the bottom of the barrel because you just got the game and they assume you're bad, so you're not going up against amazing players or anything. the other players on your team probably think about you the way you think about them. playing with friends helps the feeling of coordination if, y'know, they actually try to coordinate with you, but that doesn't mean you're gonna win more. the game tries to match groups with other groups of around the same size, so queuing as a 6 stack can actually be a lot harder than solo queue. I also guarantee you that you don't understand the hero balance as well as you think you do if you just downloaded the game for the free weekend but if you don't like it, don't buy it. plenty of shooters released this year
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Nov 20, 2016 14:24
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Free weekend scrub question: after I freeze someone with Mei's primary attack, is it better to keep attacking with it or switch to the secondary icicles?
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Nov 20, 2016 14:44
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Koburn posted:Free weekend scrub question: after I freeze someone with Mei's primary attack, is it better to keep attacking with it or switch to the secondary icicles? Shoot those motha fuckers in they HEEEADS
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Nov 20, 2016 14:47
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yea go for the icicle headshot here's some NUMBERS for ya. the icicle does 75 damage and headshots double damage, giving you 150 free damage on any snowman you make. mei's primary fire can't headshot and does piddly damage besides, so you're wasting your time if you keep spraying with it after freezing someone
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Nov 20, 2016 14:52
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Manatee Cannon posted:here's some NUMBERS for ya. the icicle does 75 damage and headshots double damage, giving you 150 free damage on any snowman you make. mei's primary fire can't headshot and does piddly damage besides, so you're wasting your time if you keep spraying with it after freezing someone You also don't build up the freeze debuff while the target is already frozen so there is zero reason to continue primary fire while they're a popsicle. Even non-headshot secondaries are better.
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Nov 20, 2016 14:55
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Manatee Cannon posted:You're not as good as you think you are. To do all of that and still be on losing team after losing team is some kind of bullshit. Mind you, some of those losses weren't rolls and were fun right until the last second but, gently caress me, even one win would have been nice. Maybe it really is just a very bad streak of luck. I hope so. But even so, great game that I'll continue to watch and love as a spectator, but this free weekend has soured me to actually playing it. frajaq posted:Have you tried Rainbow Siege? I mean it's wildly different from TF2/Overwatch but may be more organized than these?
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Nov 20, 2016 16:33
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How many matches have you played so far?
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Nov 20, 2016 16:38
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I'd be interested to know which heroes you've been using also
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Nov 20, 2016 16:41
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Ehud posted:How many matches have you played so far? Help Im Alive posted:I'd be interested to know which heroes you've been using also I'll admit I am venting a bit here and it's probably not as bad as it seems. I still like this game a lot. I just won't be playing it.
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Nov 20, 2016 17:03
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If you lost 20 matches in a row you are terrible at FPSes. May I suggest a new hobby, like knitting?
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Nov 20, 2016 17:24
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Yeah like I'll have the occasional losing streak while solo queing quickplay in silent running mode but I've never gone 20-0. Assuming you're not exaggerating, compared to you I must be some kind of team fps god.
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Nov 20, 2016 17:33
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You're playing in the pool with every other free weekender, the majority of which are blizzard fans who don't play shooters. You're trying to bring teamwork and communication into a game where 90% of the players don't understand basic mechanical concepts. Pick an offense hero with a heal, such as soldier 76, and simply win every match until you're at a level where people start shooting back. If you can't make an impact with a hero built on securing kills, it's on you.
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Nov 20, 2016 17:37
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Blorange posted:You're playing in the pool with every other free weekender, the majority of which are blizzard fans who don't play shooters. You're trying to bring teamwork and communication into a game where 90% of the players don't understand basic mechanical concepts. Pick an offense hero with a heal, such as soldier 76, and simply win every match until you're at a level where people start shooting back. If you can't make an impact with a hero built on securing kills, it's on you. Also from what I've heard, mic comms are way less common on the Asia servers because there is no common language across the entire server. Also if you're playing Quick Play, no one uses comms in that mode period.
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Nov 20, 2016 17:46
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I have found that it can be very frustrating playing the only support in a game. If you're playing Lucio and everyone else is playing offense characters badly, it's tough to really swing the game in your favor no matter how well you're playing. A good offense usually has more impact at the lower levels. Edit: Also, try to find one or two people to queue up with. That'll break your losing streak. DrBox fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nov 20, 2016 17:50
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DrBox posted:I have found that it can be very frustrating playing the only support in a game. If you're playing Lucio and everyone else is playing offense characters badly, it's tough to really swing the game in your favor no matter how well you're playing. A good offense usually has more impact at the lower levels. Zenyatta and Ana--in that order--are the ultimate antidotes to offense slampickers who can't play offense. Too often Lucio means you just have a spectator seat to your team coughing up the game and leaving you to escape a 1v6 and I get enough of that treatment at my workjob tbh
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Nov 20, 2016 17:56
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if you're really, legitimately better than the other people in your game, you can carry as anything. you don't have to be a dps hero to win for your time, healers and tanks perform roles just as important as the damage dealers, but you do have to outclass everyone else in the server by a fair bit
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Willie Tomg posted:Zenyatta and Ana--in that order--are the ultimate antidotes to offense slampickers who can't play offense. For real, when I play Ana I honestly find it easier to kill Pharah than with McCree. 3 scoped shots with no damage falloff, seems good.
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There are some FPS games I've been absolute God-tier at, and others I've been middling-to-average at. I am also loving horrible at this game and lose constantly. And I agree, it isn't fun. At all. I came moments away from just uninstalling it because I have a difficult time getting enjoyment out of it, but then I stopped playing by myself and only played with goons, on Discord, and suddenly the game was fun. Not even the same goons every time, just always with people who are pretty good at the game and communicate with each other. And yeah of course you gotta find your classes, but that's only part of it. I am absolutely awful with anyone that requires aiming. I can't play Ana, or McCree, or Hanzo. But I can support people who do, as long as we're all talking and playing together. The game's not bad. You're probably not bad either. Stop playing it alone.
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I enjoy losing Overwatch on teams that talk more-or-less nicely to each other far more than I enjoy winning Overwatch with silent teammates who bumble to a win essentially at random like a Stanford Prisoner Experiment themed pachinko machine more than I enjoy dealing with rage-teens in any capacity or venue whatsoever. Thanks for reading.
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Nov 20, 2016 18:29
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Them Widow changes is making life hell again, least fun class to play against.
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If anyone really likes the game and wants to keep playing it and not quit yet, just post a gameplay video and people will give you tips on how to improve.
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Thor-Stryker posted:Them Widow changes is making life hell again, least fun class to play against. When there is a godlike Widow or Sniper I like to go Winston. Also when there are really good supports. Also Genjis. Also every other time I play the game.
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Nov 20, 2016 18:42
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Thor-Stryker posted:Them Widow changes is making life hell again, least fun class to play against. Also least fun class to play with, because even if they're good you'll never feel like you're actually working with them.
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Roger Explosion posted:I'll admit I am venting a bit here and it's probably not as bad as it seems. I still like this game a lot. I just won't be playing it. Don't make the purpose of any match to win -- make the purpose of every match to have fun. Namaste.
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Along that line of thought, it took me a bit to get out of "I have to shoot other dudes to make a difference" mode. It's hard to learn to be satisfied by going an entire match with no kills and still feel like you did something.
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Nov 20, 2016 19:47
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Do any of you play using mumble? I'm sick of getting put on teams where people refuse to talk or work together but I really can't stand discord.
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Nov 20, 2016 19:54
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Thor-Stryker posted:Them Widow changes is making life hell again, least fun class to play against. Pick D.Va and make their life hell until they ragequit. It's like sweet candy. Widowmakers should be punished
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Slim Killington posted:Along that line of thought, it took me a bit to get out of "I have to shoot other dudes to make a difference" mode. It's hard to learn to be satisfied by going an entire match with no kills and still feel like you did something. Playing the objective is important. Holding the objective is even more important. If you're a highly-mobile class dashing past the enemy line, onto the point, and getting creamed, you've done less useful than if you were killing dudes on the front with your team. Of course, if you're spending the entire time killing dudes and ignoring the point, that's even worse. Long story short, the real secret to doing well is developing a good game sense of what you need to be doing at any given time. Which is probably the least transferrable skill from other FPS games so it's not surprising if one might be struggling with it in their first couple of days.
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Nov 20, 2016 20:52
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Macaluso posted:I mean, I don't and won't ever use a mic when I'm playing with pubbies. If anyone loses 20 games in a row, the problem is probably with them. "Everyone is poo poo in quickplay on a free weekend" also applies to the enemy team, a team of 5 poo poo players plus 1 ok player, should win on average, vs. a team of 6 poo poo players.
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Idk about that, just posted in the tryhard thread about playing with a buddy who's new to the game and as soon as the other team figures out I'm killing their team i get focused like i cant believe. Getting chased halfway across the map by three dudes while the rest do ??? is tough. But yeah we still win more than we lose but the frustration is understandable
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