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Europa Universalis was great for teaching me geography. All that staring at a map for hours really sunk in.SeanBeansShako posted:I got legit mad at the Civ 6 entry on the Redcoat unit, might as well call him RED ENGLISH SOLDIER GUY. Do we know what rules they played their wargames by to know if they were any fun?
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HEY GAL posted:hot take: no protestant great power had good cav it's okay, no catholic state has ever had good beer (yeap gently caress those leprechaun buggers!) unfortunately we don't deserve to live in a better reality where this would be true 
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SlothfulCobra posted:Europa Universalis was great for teaching me geography. All that staring at a map for hours really sunk in. Same but hearts of iron.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Now I keep imagining there is this weird psuedo war gaming university that teaches THE TRUE HISTORY through a cultural medium of entertainment. I had some guy "cite" a Red Orchestra mod in an argument.
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aphid_licker posted:How much is 15k calories worth of hay in kgs? According to a horse website I just googled it's heavily dependent on the feed (table is calories per pound) code:Even more manageable if you're eating the grain in the winter stores of that village you just
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Ensign Expendable posted:I had some guy "cite" a Red Orchestra mod in an argument. But was he right or wrong? 
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Cyrano4747 posted:According to a horse website I just googled it's heavily dependent on the feed (table is calories per pound) although when they're payed at all, cav will be either payed enough so they can theoretically buy oats or be issued oats
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Jobbo_Fett posted:But was he right or wrong? Could be worse, he could have chosen Enemy At The Gates for his vague eastern front source. SlothfulCobra posted:Do we know what rules they played their wargames by to know if they were any fun? Go ask some table top gaming goons, It's still being played today.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Do we know what rules they played their wargames by to know if they were any fun? http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/kriegsspiel-die-rollenspiel-kommode-fotostrecke-42723-2.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegsspiel_(wargame) that's the reason we use red/blue for opposing forces btw. ed: also the reason DMs exist, since Kriegsspiel was the ancestor of both wargaming and RPGs HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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An ACW union recommended ration for a cavalry horse was 14lbs of hay and 12lbs of grain. This could obviously be cut by pasturing, but that is going to be extremely situational.
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HEY GAL posted:we do, and it was groggy as all hell. i think i own a copy Have you played it? If yes, what did you think?
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So I'm getting closed to the end of the French/Italian explosives. What would you like to see next? German Explosives? British Explosives? American Explosives?
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SlothfulCobra posted:Do we know what rules they played their wargames by to know if they were any fun? The answer is yes. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegsspiel_(wargame) Edit: Beaten. Elyv posted:Have you played it? If yes, what did you think? I haven't. 1st Edition was a groggy mess, but the 2nd Edition, designed by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julius_von_Verdy_du_Vernois in 1876(that's 60 odd years between editions) was much more popular. DiHK fucked around with this message at 19:49 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nice marmot Cyrano4747 posted:According to a horse website I just googled it's heavily dependent on the feed (table is calories per pound) I was surprised that green pasture apparently has several times the calories that lettuce has and then it occurred to me that that's probably because the horse, being a ruminant, can process all that cellulose. That's pretty interesting!
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Quick question, is it true that the nuclear codes were taken from Nixon? Do we have any idea whatsoever what would happen if Trumo tried to do something stupid? Would there be a coup?
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Kanine posted:Quick question, is it true that the nuclear codes were taken from Nixon? Do we have any idea whatsoever what would happen if Trumo tried to do something stupid? Would there be a coup? No, the codes were never taken from him. At his lowest point the Secretary of Defense quietly told the Pentagon to double check with him if a nuclear strike were ordered, but that was strictly informal and no one was under any obligation to do what he said. If Nixon had ordered a launch it would have been up to the officers receiving the orders to decide whether to go behind his back or not. The rest of it is probably a conversation for another thread.
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Kanine posted:Quick question, is it true that the nuclear codes were taken from Nixon? Do we have any idea whatsoever what would happen if Trumo tried to do something stupid? Would there be a coup? Not that I know of. You might be thinking of an incident during the Yom Kippur War when there was a potential crisis that Kissinger handled because Nixon was drunk. Here's a brief writeup about it: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/richard-nixon-watergate-drunk-yom-kippur-war-119021 Kellsterik fucked around with this message at 23:10 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Ensign Expendable posted:I had some guy "cite" a Red Orchestra mod in an argument. It's not just a mod anymore, it's an actual game that costs money now. Surely they wouldn't release a game onto the market without an extensive peer review process
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This was shared with me https://twitter.com/secvalve/status/800168757033193473
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Fangz posted:This was shared with me Snopes had a page about that one over ten years ago.
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But there's a little number there and everything!
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FrozenVent posted:Snopes had a page about that one over ten years ago. Needs unnecessary tumblr puns at the bottom
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FrozenVent posted:Snopes had a page about that one over ten years ago. That's a shame.
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HEY GAL posted:we do, and it was groggy as all hell. i think i own a copy Also http://grogheads.com/?p=3898 for a pro read.
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Going back to the wargame thing if you think about how much time people spend on computer games vs. history education it would probably be a really good idea to lobby for higher standards in games. All those instances of Chinese / Soviets being the Zerg faction. Or the "barbarian" trope. Or anything with vast tracts of terra nullius. It's a positive feedback loop for stereotypes, and a lot of them seem harmful.
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I feel like Company of Heroes 2 made an effort to make the Soviets an interesting combined arms army even with the spammiest sub faction. The T-34's were pretty much as good as the Panzer 4 and everything was about carefully using mines, AT guns, specialized infantry, and aircraft together with the tanks to win. Honestly I felt like it was accurate in that you mostly spammed AT guns.
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Fangz posted:This was shared with me I want to believe(tm)
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Is there anywhere to learn more about battle trains? https://warisboring.com/a-remarkable-armored-train-fought-its-way-across-eurasia-db3e3180b50c#.e0etr9tc4 These seem really impractical, since they are so limited in where they can go, but I guess not?
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aphid_licker posted:Going back to the wargame thing if you think about how much time people spend on computer games vs. history education it would probably be a really good idea to lobby for higher standards in games. All those instances of Chinese / Soviets being the Zerg faction. Or the "barbarian" trope. Or anything with vast tracts of terra nullius. It's a positive feedback loop for stereotypes, and a lot of them seem harmful. Before you start going after games you need to go after a lot lower level cultural steriotypes. They're a reflection of the cultural assumptions that their creators have rather than the driving force behind them. That said, if any game designers want to hire a historian to help you make your games not suck in this regard, I'm available and cheap.
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There's a cool series of articles about how national abilities in Civ and the like reflect our cultural thinking: http://flashofsteel.com/index.php/2010/11/05/national-characters/
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Fusion Restaurant posted:Is there anywhere to learn more about battle trains? But that article clearly stated their practical and very useful purpose?
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I found the effort post/blog about Fascism but is there an effort post or blog someone can link me about how/why Nazi Germany/Hitler going to war with the Soviet Union was inevitable and unavoidable end result of their ideology?
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Raenir Salazar posted:I found the effort post/blog about Fascism but is there an effort post or blog someone can link me about how/why Nazi Germany/Hitler going to war with the Soviet Union was inevitable and unavoidable end result of their ideology? It was probably inevitable for Hitler for Nazi reasons, namely all the peoples east of Germany were inherently inferior and murdering the lot of them would give the German people a wider place in the sun. When you think Communism is some sort of secret Jewish corruption, and this corruption is super successful in the land of the lesser peoples, you don't fear a war with them. I'm not sure you can make the case that it was inevitable on Stalin's part - he was at least as evil and crazy as Hitler, but his foreign policy is forever cast in WW2/the start of the cold war, and that makes it difficult to call.
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Fusion Restaurant posted:Is there anywhere to learn more about battle trains? They can only go where the train line goes, but the train line mostly goes to major industrial and population hubs. Which is probably where you want to go as well. And in the era before the tank and anti tank gun, who the gently caress is going to stop a giant rail mounted battleship bristling with armour and guns? I really wish someone would make a game about armoured trains, there's a few but none of them really go for "here build a loving beastly murdertrain with old warship parts and go nuts with it". OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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FrozenVent posted:Snopes had a page about that one over ten years ago. There's a footnote, it has to be true!
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Why were so many planes in WWII painted green?
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SlothfulCobra posted:Why were so many planes in WWII painted green? Because its a generic tone for grass/forest.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Why were so many planes in WWII painted green? If you can see the top side of a plane, you are most likely looking downward at it, so it would be beneficial to try and make it blend in with the ground. Usually the undersides of those same planes would be painted some shade of white, grey, or blue because they would only need to blend in with the sky if you're looking upwards at them. Whether it was actually useful is debatable and the USAAF eventually just said gently caress it and didn't even give planes full paint jobs later in the war, but that's generally the line of thinking going into plane camo.
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Pornographic Memory posted:If you can see the top side of a plane, you are most likely looking downward at it, so it would be beneficial to try and make it blend in with the ground. Usually the undersides of those same planes would be painted some shade of white, grey, or blue because they would only need to blend in with the sky if you're looking upwards at them. Whether it was actually useful is debatable and the USAAF eventually just said gently caress it and didn't even give planes full paint jobs later in the war, but that's generally the line of thinking going into plane camo. The USAAF said fuckit because the Luftwaffe didn't pose a threat, and the bare metal finish was a few mph faster than the painted aircraft.
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feedmegin posted:Also http://grogheads.com/?p=3898 for a pro read. drat good article. Thanks!
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