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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
| Total: | 206 votes | ||
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I don't think they'd say any part of a nation state can join the EU.
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MSP calls for government action over change to Toblerones This is really, really stupid, but credit to the lib dems and greens: quote:Lib Dem MSP Mike Rumbles added: "We all know Brexit won't be a picnic but Mr Beattie should realise that the SNP's attempt to introduce a double decker of uncertainty through another breakaway will only make the situation worse."
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Nov 16, 2016 18:16
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Niric posted:MSP calls for government action over change to Toblerones Credit also to the Tories for offering to buy him some Scottish chocolate if he's worried. Not that Colin Beattie will be able to get it in his mouth past his foot.
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Nov 16, 2016 18:26
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These figures https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/799275937850236928 Should be a challenge for the nationalist campaign in the event of Indyref 2, but in the age of post-truth campaigning does Scotland receiving higher spending per head than anywhere but Northern Ireland matter?
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Nov 17, 2016 17:00
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Pissflaps posted:These figures I don't think this will matter much more or much less than in 2014, when it was also true. What might matter more is the trend; if the per capita spend falls/rises (relatively or otherwise), that might be an obvious focal point of debate - "Westminster doing less/more for Scotland." I'm not sure the financial nitty gritty will be all that important however; I suspect the major factor will be gut feeling and perception- do you feel Scotland is doing better, worse, or more or less the same than in 2014? Brute figures like this can tie to that narrative, but only imperceptibly I think
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Nov 17, 2016 18:34
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Derek Mackay, the Cabinet Minister for Finance, has been quoted as saying that PFI is "essential" for Scotland.
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Nov 18, 2016 09:04
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Jedit posted:Derek Mackay, the Cabinet Minister for Finance, has been quoted as saying that PFI is "essential" for Scotland. Good to see lovely SNP are outing themselves as lovely. If they keep doing this then people surely have to stop supporting them eventually right? Y'know, in a decade or two... 
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Nov 18, 2016 11:41
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forkboy84 posted:Good to see lovely SNP are outing themselves as lovely. If they keep doing this then people surely have to stop supporting them eventually right? I believe this may have been in a private business meeting with Anglian Water (see: posts passim ad nauseum). Don't expect it to go public any time soon. I should add that I misspoke myself. The exact quote referred to public/private partnerships, but that's basically PFI with an attached service contract. I had my suspicions about Anglian Water confirmed yesterday. Their private sector business portfolio amounts to about £10m. The public sector portfolio they've taken on is worth at least twice that, maybe as much as three times at the outside. They might have been able to cope with one of the lots, but having been given both lots they're failing and failing hard because they don't have the resources in place to handle a contract of that size or the knowledge and experience needed to know how to place the resources they do have. Jedit fucked around with this message at 12:24 on Nov 18, 2016 |
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Nov 18, 2016 12:20
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quote:Twitter users in Scotland are more likely than those anywhere else in the UK to post racist and homophobic messages online, according to data published on Monday. https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/technology/twitter-trolls-post-racist-homophobic-abuse-likely-hail-scotland/ Damning stuff. I'd expect better from the most tolerant region of the UK.
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Nov 20, 2016 18:00
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I guess our idiots are more tech savvy? It's a shame really
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Nov 20, 2016 18:04
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I'd question the idea that the misogyny tweets are fairly equal. There's no mention of rating there so calling someone an X factor contestant a cow might be in the same bucket as direct rape threats. Same for all the categories really.
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Nov 20, 2016 18:11
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Blue Star Error posted:https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/technology/twitter-trolls-post-racist-homophobic-abuse-likely-hail-scotland/ They're probably including "Sassenach", "Southron bastard" and any swear word prefixed or suffixed with "English". That would be enough to skew the stats hugely even if Scots were less likely to be trans/homophobic.
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Nov 20, 2016 18:15
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Jedit posted:They're probably including "Sassenach", "Southron bastard" and any swear word prefixed or suffixed with "English". That would be enough to skew the stats hugely even if Scots were less likely to be trans/homophobic. Who on earth says "Southron" anything?
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Nov 20, 2016 18:23
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forkboy84 posted:Who on earth says "Southron" anything? Racists in the Highlands and Islands, mostly. It lets them insult the English and infer that lowlanders aren't real Scots at the same time.
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Nov 20, 2016 18:29
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forkboy84 posted:Who on earth says "Southron" anything? Wildlings?
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Nov 20, 2016 18:29
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Jedit posted:They're probably including "Sassenach", "Southron bastard" and any swear word prefixed or suffixed with "English". That would be enough to skew the stats hugely even if Scots were less likely to be trans/homophobic. They were measured as separate categories. Even if they were counting anti-English sentiment as racism, which tbh, seems unlikely, it wouldn't affect the other categories.
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Nov 20, 2016 18:36
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Jedit posted:Racists in the Highlands and Islands, mostly. It lets them insult the English and infer that lowlanders aren't real Scots at the same time. Well, in over 25 years living in the Highlands, can't say I've heard one person utter it. Sounds like a term that belongs in a fantasy book, Tolkein or some such. I've also only ever heard people utter Sassenach ironically though so maybe I live a sheltered existence. (Which isn't to say I haven't heard anti-English abuse, but "English bastard" seemed to be the go to) Oh, & "white settler". Definitely heard that about English folk moving up here, taking advantage of house prices being cheap relative to what they'd pay in the south east and flying up & down to London each weekend. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Nov 20, 2016 18:44
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I'm looking forward to the upcoming war with America over wind farms. quote:Andy Whigmore, who was present at the meeting with Mr Trump, said: “We covered a lot of ground during the hour-long meeting we had.
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Nov 20, 2016 19:21
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You think he ever slips up and just accidentally says "golf course" instead of Scotland?
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Nov 20, 2016 19:33
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Blue Star Error posted:https://inews.co.uk/essentials/news/technology/twitter-trolls-post-racist-homophobic-abuse-likely-hail-scotland/ The full report is available here if anyone is interested. Interestingly, it appears from the heat map of racist tweets for the UK that the only bad places in Scotland are East Ayrshire and Midlothian and that overall, Scotland tends to be less racist than England and Wales. The Highlands are apparently less racist than most places in the UK, though they are extremely homophobic according to the research, which is not surprising. I wouldn't read too much into the report overall though. The regional breakdown for each issue varies quite significantly from issue to issue despite misogyny, racism and homophobia highly correlating with each other. I would imagine a good part of that variation will be based on the methodology they use to extract and categorise tweets, which isn't explained in the report aside from a cursory "we did this". There's no explanation of what the parameters they used were, so I couldn't even suggest with any authority what the issues actually are; it's that vague.
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Nov 20, 2016 21:05
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Angepain posted:I'm looking forward to the upcoming war with America over wind farms. Pretty sure this was his endgame as President, after we told him to gently caress off cos the wind farm is staying, the UK courts told him to too, and so did the EU one. "They can't possibly say no to the president of the whole world."
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Nov 20, 2016 21:28
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Not Operator posted:You think he ever slips up and just accidentally says "golf course" instead of Scotland? Well, they already slipped up by saying Anglophile when talking about his love for Scotland.
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Nov 20, 2016 23:23
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Interesting, albeit extremely vague, from the SNP on the possibility of cancelling Abellio's ScotRail contract and having a public sector operator as the preferred bidder. In the absence of anything concrete though, I think this is mostly just hot air, much akin to May's occasional empty nods towards social inequality. It's politically perfect for the SNP: it creates goodwill amongst commuters by threatening Abellio for being poo poo, goodwill amongst labour voters and the leftier SNP/pro Indy voters, but since no decision is actually possible until 2020 anything said now can be easily ignored or dismissed. Just as Matthew d'Ancona et al gush like infatuated schoolboys over May's magnanimity any time she acknowledges not everyone is wealthy, I suspect this will be used as evidence of how socialist/left wing the SNP are by the usual suspects.
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Nov 21, 2016 09:35
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The SNP are pushing hard for Aberdeenshire Council to get a new multi-million pound HQ in Inverurie in the face of criticism that it risks being a white elephant. Council leader Hamish Vernal declared that the existing HQ at Woodhill House is a white elephant, thus demonstrating that he has no idea what a white elephant is. On a sidebar, reports that Vernal was seen fleeing this morning's fire alert at Woodhill House carrying a jerry can and a box of matches have proven unsubstantiated.
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Nov 21, 2016 11:58
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Niric posted:I suspect this will be used as evidence of how socialist/left wing the SNP are by the usual suspects. On a related note: https://twitter.com/ScotTories/status/800307708217815040
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Nov 21, 2016 13:11
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baronvonsabre posted:On a related note: Interesting tactic this from the Tories - the SNP have fairly clearly been chasing the soft-left vote for some time (with rhetoric far more than action, but still), so painting them as extreme leftist makes some amount of sense propaganda-wise as a way of going after any right/centre-right SNP voters. Not sure it will have the desired effect (as calling out the SNP for not really being left-wing hasn't had any effect), but intrigued to see how, if at all, the SNP respond
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Nov 21, 2016 17:35
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Oh it's supposed to be an attack, I was very confused as to why the tories were doing the SNP's PR for them.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:25
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Niric posted:Interesting tactic this from the Tories - the SNP have fairly clearly been chasing the soft-left vote for some time (with rhetoric far more than action, but still), so painting them as extreme leftist makes some amount of sense propaganda-wise as a way of going after any right/centre-right SNP voters. Not sure it will have the desired effect (as calling out the SNP for not really being left-wing hasn't had any effect), but intrigued to see how, if at all, the SNP respond It's quite smart really. The only place the SNP are really vulnerable is places like rural Aberdeenshire, Perthshire & so on, the sort of places that have traditionally been SNP heartland but who have probably become Nat supporters because they were Tartan Tories. And now that they've thrown their rhetoric to the left in order to pick up central belt seats, that absolutely leaves those traditional seats more vulnerable than you'd expect.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:29
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Irn Bru sales have increased 60% in Parliament since the 2015 election
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Nov 22, 2016 02:55
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forkboy84 posted:It's quite smart really. The only place the SNP are really vulnerable is places like rural Aberdeenshire, Perthshire & so on, the sort of places that have traditionally been SNP heartland but who have probably become Nat supporters because they were Tartan Tories. And now that they've thrown their rhetoric to the left in order to pick up central belt seats, that absolutely leaves those traditional seats more vulnerable than you'd expect. It also has another net benefit for the Tories in that it stokes the labour/SNP dogfight. A strong SNP is good for the Tories at a UK level, so the Tories are wise to suggest that the SNP are more labour than labour. It also gives the Tories a clear (if lovely) identity; they're the right while both labour and SNP are the left- any disagreement between SNP and labour is leftist infighting and the Tories cement themselves as the obvious opposition. It helps that this dovetails with a polarising constitutional issue as well, so the tories are neatly the SNP alternative both on issues of policy and the issue of independence. Also, Bruntsfield tesco does lovely and self-evidently stupid thing. That no one thought this might be a problem is mind boggling- and tesco's admittance-then-denial is weirdly Orwellian Niric fucked around with this message at 09:29 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Nov 22, 2016 09:25
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I completely believe that happened here... Then again I haven't been around at lunchtime to see for myself because I try to avoid the street when the kids are out anyway. On another note, I find it quite interesting just how white Edinburgh feels compared to Aberdeen. Didn't expect that.
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Nov 22, 2016 10:25
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Maybe it's because I'm a country bumpkin, but when I moved to Edinburgh I was surprised by how ethnically diverse it was  e: wikipedia claims Edinburgh/Aberdeen are virtually identical in terms of whiteness.
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Nov 22, 2016 10:36
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Yeah, "feels" is probably the keyword. I think the area I live in feels especially white despite its proximity to universities. What areas would edinburghers consider more 'ethnic' than others so I can go and get food there? I took a job at a removals company recently so I'll see more of the city soon.
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Nov 22, 2016 10:41
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Chas McGill posted:I completely believe that happened here... I can't believe that. When I first moved to Aberdeen there were so few black people that I actually started a count of how many I'd seen, and it took over a year to hit three figures.
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Nov 22, 2016 11:05
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Must be where we lived. There are so many Nigerian engineers and students in Aberdeen now. I moved from Rosemount to Bruntsfield and somehow the latter feels even more bourgeois. When the lease is up here I'll look for somewhere in Dalry I think.
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Nov 22, 2016 11:41
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I see loads of black people every day and I probably hear more Polish, Russian, Spanish, Lithuanian, and Italian spoken on my street (5 minutes from Castlegate) than English.
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Nov 22, 2016 12:51
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Coohoolin posted:I see loads of black people every day and I probably hear more Polish, Russian, Spanish, Lithuanian, and Italian spoken on my street (5 minutes from Castlegate) than English. It's called times changing. Remember how I said this was the way it was when I moved to Aberdeen? That was before you were born.
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Nov 22, 2016 13:18
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Chas McGill posted:Yeah, "feels" is probably the keyword. I think the area I live in feels especially white despite its proximity to universities. It's not exactly an "ethnic" area, but there's a very good variety of diverse food places around Pleasance/Newington direction.
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Nov 22, 2016 15:41
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baronvonsabre posted:The full report is available here if anyone is interested. Interestingly, it appears from the heat map of racist tweets for the UK that the only bad places in Scotland are East Ayrshire and Midlothian I'm not shocked that the area I live in is poo poo. Dosen't shock me that East Ayrshire is in that area. But I would like to see where in East Ayrshire that this responce is coming from.
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Nov 23, 2016 03:06
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Trail for universial basic income? Well you need permission for that first https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/801420025345277953 43% are fine with a wall between Scotland & England which even if it is under 50%, it's still high. I'm sure this 800 Million will solve our problems Scottish Nationalism is so powerful it's able to tear an island apart, pls stop Scotacking now Hey something SNP* did that wasn't a waste of time and it's ending voluntary work programme sanctions (*Nudges from Greens) Superbug fears prompt Scot NHS to review drug buying that it spends millions of pounds on drugs from Indian companies which are accused of superbug pollution.
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Nov 24, 2016 00:34
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