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Real hurthling! posted:what's gone on with crusader kings? i know nothing. It got terrible for a few years under a particular director and after he moved off the project the next DLC/update under the new staff literally added a menu option to just roll back the game rules and it was incredibly well received lol. The guy posts on this forum and his coworkers show up periodically to flame him which is insanely bizarre to see
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mutata posted:Who is this directed to? What an oddly factual post. It's directed at the same few people who keep getting all mad every time a fan project that Nintendo shut down is mentioned. I get the frustration when a cool thing is shut down for what is basically dumb laws but come on, accept that it happens. Edit: I like Pop Up Video so I'll take that as a compliment.
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Cardboard Box A posted:
Well I mean, removing this one is pretty good.
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Or don't! Whichever!
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heard from a very reliable source reggie was furious that federation force didn't get any nominations but a metroid fan game was up for an award so he sent a very angry 3 am phone call to geoff keighley demanding either federation force win an award or am2r be removed. geoff made the right call in my opinion
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In Training posted:It got terrible for a few years under a particular director and after he moved off the project the next DLC/update under the new staff literally added a menu option to just roll back the game rules and it was incredibly well received lol. The guy posts on this forum and his coworkers show up periodically to flame him which is insanely bizarre to see lol
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It's directed at the same few people who keep getting all mad every time a fan project that Nintendo shut down is mentioned. I get the frustration when a cool thing is shut down for what is basically dumb laws but come on, accept that it happens. Yeah, I mean, I'm entirely in favor of the "gently caress infinite and eternal copyright laws' bandwagon but wondering why every company doesn't treat every fan game with kid gloves is silly. Not even the companies who are permissive of fan works are universally so and even the ones that are tend to not be super-thrilled with them getting heavily promoted unless they explicitly have something set up in order to monetize those fan works.
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I mean Samus is depicted in AM2R as a total badass and not a blowup doll so I can see why sakamoto wanted it removed at least
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Grapplejack posted:I mean Samus is depicted in AM2R as a total badass and not a blowup doll so I can see why sakamoto wanted it removed at least I know this is a joke but a lot of people these days seem like they legit believe the actual developers of the official games back in Japan are the ones who are telling the various legal teams around the world to do lovely stuff. Which again plays into a good narrative but doesn't make a lot of sense when we're talking about franchises not named Metroid.
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Kinda wish we weren't still limited to 6 pokemon parties, i hate having to choose who has to wait in the box Meowth is Dark type now 
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precision posted:Meowth is Dark type now He has finally been consumed by his greed.
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ImpAtom posted:Yeah, I mean, I'm entirely in favor of the "gently caress infinite and eternal copyright laws' bandwagon but wondering why every company doesn't treat every fan game with kid gloves is silly. Not even the companies who are permissive of fan works are universally so and even the ones that are tend to not be super-thrilled with them getting heavily promoted unless they explicitly have something set up in order to monetize those fan works. All anyone ever says is "It's dumb that Nintendo are assholes about this when other companies are super cool about it which means they could be too." Some of y'all are counterpointing into the void is what I'm saying.
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Played a game of Civ 6 at my brother's and finally went for the religious victory and won in the early 1400s because the AI has less idea on how to handle religious combat than regular combat. Like regular combat, they drive their chariots around in a circle and get picked off, but with religious combat, they actually suicide attack when they have terrible odds like every single time. You basically just need to generate a lot of faith, unit spam Apostles, and get the technology to embark and nobody ever touches you as long as you keep a decent standing army. It's the easiest game of Civ I ever played since Civ III when they made the expansion that gave you a wonder that generated horse archers every turn.
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mutata posted:All anyone ever says is "It's dumb that Nintendo are assholes about this when other companies are super cool about it which means they could be too." Other companies are cool about it because they have actual reasons to be. Valve has a vested interest in people promoting their engines and service and in monetizing those fan creations. No poo poo they're more permissive about it. They're not doing it because they ~~love the fans so much~~ It's tiresome seeing people pretend like companies care the smallest iota about them and are 'nice' to them because they love video games. They don't. They want your money. If they felt a fan work seriously offered a risk at getting your money they would shut it down in a second. Pointing at other companies and going "They do it! Why doesn't (X)" should be met with "So why do those other companies do it?" And if anyone unironically gives the answer of "because they like their fans" then they deserve to be laughed at. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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precision posted:Meowth is Dark type now This is incredibly shocking. I need to sit down and think about this for a while.
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ImpAtom posted:Other companies are cool about it because they have actual reasons to be. Valve has a vested interest in people promoting their engines and service and in monetizing those fan creations. No poo poo they're more permissive about it. They're not doing it because they ~~love the fans so much~~ Any company can do whatever they want. It's objectively stupid that Nintendo are assholes about fan games. But you're right, let's talk about which Final Fantasy is the best one again.
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ImpAtom posted:Other companies are cool about it because they have actual reasons to be. Valve has a vested interest in people promoting their engines and service and in monetizing those fan creations. No poo poo they're more permissive about it. They're not doing it because they ~~love the fans so much~~ As a corollary to this, never defend a corporation, unless it is literally your job to do so.
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ImpAtom posted:Other companies are cool about it because they have actual reasons to be. Valve has a vested interest in people promoting their engines and service and in monetizing those fan creations. No poo poo they're more permissive about it. They're not doing it because they ~~love the fans so much~~ i dont think anyone is actually saying any of these faceless megacorporations are nice guys, but that it is nice when they treat fan games in certain ways, my dude. also your av loving sucks
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dumb copyright bullshit is why we dont have The Great Ace Attorney in the US :/
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chumbler posted:As a corollary to this, never defend a corporation, unless it is literally your job to do so. But Nintendo sends me happy birthday emails!
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me, an avid video game fan: i like that i can play and enjoy this fan made creation guy with an avatar i hate: uhh, you idiot. you loving moron. corporations are literally hitlers me: im sorry. im removing the rom's from my hard drive. i'm sorry
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Soral posted:i dont think anyone is actually saying any of these faceless megacorporations are nice guys, but that it is nice when they treat fan games in certain ways, my dude. also your av loving sucks Nah. People get super angry and upset about it. They're convinced NIntendo/Square-Enix/Whoever Else Is Being Whined About Today is being extra-special mean guys and only doing it because they hate fans/nobody likes them anyway/other tedious stuff. Also I've had people message me saying my AV owns so  Soral posted:me, an avid video game fan: i like that i can play and enjoy this fan made creation Yes, that is... a logical reading of anything anyone said in this conversation?
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mutata posted:Any company can do whatever they want. It's objectively stupid that Nintendo are assholes about fan games. But you're right, let's talk about which Final Fantasy is the best one again. XIII
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Quest For Glory II posted:World of Accurate answer.
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FFVII is only $2 on PSN at the moment. I bought it, I will maybe play it one day.
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ImpAtom posted:Nah. People get super angry and upset about it. They're convinced NIntendo/Square-Enix/Whoever Else Is Being Whined About Today is being extra-special mean guys and only doing it because they hate fans/nobody likes them anyway/other tedious stuff. Ah yes, People. You know, those People and the things they always say. Darn those People.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:FFVII is only $2 on PSN at the moment. I bought it, I will maybe play it one day. Is it the PS1 version or the PS4 version? The latter has a 3x speed feature which makes it a lot more tolerable to play. CJacobs posted:Ah yes, People. You know, those People and the things they always say. Darn those People. Grapplejack posted:I mean I guess when the only thing you have left as a company is to sell tchotchkes containing ripped roms of games you made 20+ years ago anything that bites into that profit needs to be removed immediately Literally part of this conversation, man.
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ImpAtom posted:Yes, that is... a logical reading of anything anyone said in this conversation? i have problems understanding hyperbole in posts that are obviously not serious as well.
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ImpAtom posted:Literally part of this conversation, man. You said exactly what you quoted from Grapplejack in this post ImpAtom posted:They want your money. If they felt a fan work seriously offered a risk at getting your money they would shut it down in a second.
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ImpAtom posted:Is it the PS1 version or the PS4 version? The latter has a 3x speed feature which makes it a lot more tolerable to play. PSOne version and I know I am crazy but I am not opposed to grinding in JRPGs. I'm playing pokemon right now as I watch dumb TV shows on Netflix.
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Corporations are bad but that doesn't mean that some of them aren't better than others or that the individual people within those corporations are evil. It's okay to really hate everything about EA but to like some companies which practice nicer business models and are better to their employees, I think.
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CJacobs posted:You said exactly what you quoted from Grapplejack in this post "They are only doing it because they literally have nothing else to offer but 20 year old roms" is not exactly the same thing, no. It's the exact same thing that happens every single time this comes up. "(X) only shut down the fan project because they knew it would be/was better!!" (Which to be fair is hilariously true in the case of AMR2 though incredibly false with Pokemon Uranium.) ONE YEAR LATER posted:PSOne version and I know I am crazy but I am not opposed to grinding in JRPGs. I'm playing pokemon right now as I watch dumb TV shows on Netflix. Nah, it's not so much grinding, it is just kind of a slow game because it's a PS1-era JRPG. You shouldn't need to grind at all short of doing the super-duper-optional-bosses or whatever.
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Like I absolutely believe that a lot of the individual people who work at video game companies do just loe games, and there are companies that feel that is a threat to a successful business model and companies which feel that just kind of letting those people do what they do is going to produce a successful product, or even that some unsuccessful products that only sell to a niche market will offer prestige to their brands. Not everyone working media has some kind of cynical bean counter in their heads when they create stuff.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:PSOne version and I know I am crazy but I am not opposed to grinding in JRPGs. I'm playing pokemon right now as I watch dumb TV shows on Netflix. FF7 is one of the oldest JRPGs I can think of where you literally never need to grind, not even a little bit.
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precision posted:FF7 is one of the oldest JRPGs I can think of where you literally never need to grind, not even a little bit. Er-hem, Chocobos...
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Bicyclops posted:Like I absolutely believe that a lot of the individual people who work at video game companies do just loe games, and there are companies that feel that is a threat to a successful business model and companies which feel that just kind of letting those people do what they do is going to produce a successful product, or even that some unsuccessful products that only sell to a niche market will offer prestige to their brands. Not everyone working media has some kind of cynical bean counter in their heads when they create stuff. I'm sure almost anyone who gets into making video games loves games because it's sure not a career you take for the money alone. However the people making the games are not the company, and outside of a very small number of 'star' developers you probably don't even know any of their names or what games they worked on. More importantly they're not the ones making decisions about shutting down fan projects or sending C&Ds or whatever. Even higher ups like Sakamoto are not the ones going "Nintendo, shut down that fan remake, it ruined my waifu." Lurdiak posted:Er-hem, Chocobos... You can finish the entire drat game without touching those things to be fair. They're just there to get a couple of overpowered materia.
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ImpAtom posted:You can finish the entire drat game without touching those things to be fair. They're just there to get a couple of overpowered materia. Still, it's one of the grindiest things I've seen in a non Dragon Quest RPG.
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