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Having played a decent chunk of games this weekend I've determined that ADC is not fun this patch and that I'd rather play top. Unsettling to say the least.
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amazeballs posted:Having played a decent chunk of games this weekend I've determined that ADC is not fun this patch and that I'd rather play top. Unsettling to say the least. you can just feel free to make this post on almost any patch
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Nov 20, 2016 20:00
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My main roles since atleast season 3 have been 1) ADC Mid 2) ADC Bot, and frankly Ive never understood the bitching from other ADC mains about being weak/unfun. ADCs have never been weak (in terms of total game impact) and if you find them unfun just play something else for a while?
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Nov 20, 2016 20:03
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no role has ever been weak in terms of total game impact but thanks for that insight
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Nov 20, 2016 20:11
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iSurrender posted:My main roles since atleast season 3 have been 1) ADC Mid 2) ADC Bot, and frankly Ive never understood the bitching from other ADC mains about being weak/unfun. ADCs have never been weak (in terms of total game impact) and if you find them unfun just play something else for a while? I'm sure it has more to do with me being bad at positioning than anything particularly in 6.22. I was being a little glib. It feels like my ADC life is constantly riding on the edge of a knife in games featuring assassins like Kat and Akali. I make one mistake and I'm instantly deleted and I'm. Just. Not. Good. Enough.
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Nov 20, 2016 20:12
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Twitch and Vayne are absolutely insane this patch and completely destroy games when they have supports that can stack shield power items
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Nov 20, 2016 20:14
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twitch and vayne dont really suffer from that "i can't do anything by myself" feeling which is sort of important but i don't know how long the vayne thing will last. it doesn't seem like they'll keep fervor useless forever. of course q max vayne is sort of an unlikely series of events too. so long as most adcs dont have a two item power spike she'll still be good.
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Nov 20, 2016 20:18
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Work Friend Keven posted:4. Phreak did NOT get bodied in lane by Tyler1. i didnt get this until i got that vid recommended and lol thats the most i've seen tyler1 sweat before his first kills, dude was stoked about wanting to kill phreak
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Nov 20, 2016 20:27
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rabidsquid posted:no role has ever been weak in terms of total game impact but thanks for that insight during the height of cinderhulk adcs basically didn't exist but that's the only one i really remember
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Nov 20, 2016 20:39
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Lovechop posted:during the height of cinderhulk adcs basically didn't exist but that's the only one i really remember thats a good point, and i am glad that the "adcs have always been fine" talk has brought up that adcs were the one role that has not always been fine.
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Nov 20, 2016 20:41
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rabidsquid posted:twitch and vayne dont really suffer from that "i can't do anything by myself" feeling which is sort of important but i don't know how long the vayne thing will last. it doesn't seem like they'll keep fervor useless forever. of course q max vayne is sort of an unlikely series of events too. so long as most adcs dont have a two item power spike she'll still be good. Not only is q max crit burst insane but she's completely invisible for 2/3s of a teamfight unless you have TF. Riot completely dropped the ball on their stealth rework. Like it's fine that you don't want someone to be countered by dropping a 100g ward in a teamfight, but you gotta add the effect onto to a 2k support item at the very least.
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Nov 20, 2016 20:49
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Lovechop posted:during the height of cinderhulk adcs basically didn't exist but that's the only one i really remember Grab cinderhulk, smite frog, don't even need thornmail, enemy ADC gets poisoned for 400 damage every time they auto. Only vayne or lategame bloodthirster ADC could touch tanks in that period.
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Nov 20, 2016 20:49
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Firebert posted:Not only is q max crit burst insane but she's completely invisible for 2/3s of a teamfight unless you have TF. Riot completely dropped the ball on their stealth rework. Like it's fine that you don't want someone to be countered by dropping a 100g ward in a teamfight, but you gotta add the effect onto to a 2k support item at the very least. It'll have walked a strange and wonderous journey if Hextech Sweeper makes its final stop at Summoners Rift
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Nov 20, 2016 20:51
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Are they ever going to nerf Vayne? I'm kind of tired playing melee and being able to do dick if there's a Vayne with just a few items on her. Armor doesn't really help and getting more health just seems to benefit her lifesteal more than anything else.
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Nov 20, 2016 21:18
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vayne has been bad for like a year straight and she's good for two weeks, so odds are that they will in fact never end this reign of terror
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Nov 20, 2016 21:24
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Assassin meta -> Tank played more often to counter them -> Vayne is strong again Nerfing Vayne just makes tanks stronger since there's so few tankbusters
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Nov 20, 2016 21:46
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RealFoxy posted:Assassin meta -> Tank played more often to counter them -> Vayne is strong again They're obviously gonna nerf the Colossus mastery at the same time, maybe even before.
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Nov 20, 2016 22:15
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give every champ in the game trundle ultimate and get these tanks outta here please and thank you riot
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Nov 20, 2016 22:16
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kingcobweb posted:They're obviously gonna nerf the Colossus mastery at the same time, maybe even before.
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Nov 20, 2016 22:18
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Radical posted:give every champ in the game trundle ultimate and get these tanks outta here please and thank you riot Please nerf every single snowballing champ into the ground and leave tanks as is , ty Riot.
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Nov 20, 2016 22:26
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Aumanor posted:Please nerf every single snowballing champ into the ground and leave tanks as is , ty Riot. I want every matchup to be ten piles of meat throwing various hard cc effects and initiations at each other and then once exhausted very slowly punching each other to death
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Nov 20, 2016 22:30
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Nerfing Vayne is always justifiable.
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Nov 20, 2016 23:02
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6OJZ7FLKew
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Nov 20, 2016 23:03
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I just want them to nerf Vayne's invisibility, I'm fine with the dashes, cc and extreme amount of damage. I just need to be able to see her better so I can kill her.
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Nov 20, 2016 23:18
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Barudak posted:I want every matchup to be ten piles of meat throwing various hard cc effects and initiations at each other and then once exhausted very slowly punching each other to death To be honest I find that absolutely preferable to the world turning grayscale 0.00005 seconds into a teamfight because I stepped 0.001 teemos in the wrong direction.
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Nov 20, 2016 23:19
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Invisibility is just so strong this patch. Twitch, Vayne, Rengar, Kha'Zix, whatever.
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Nov 20, 2016 23:29
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I think it's silly that some champions have "hard to visually track in a fight" basically built into their kit. Granted I am a feeble old man.
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Nov 20, 2016 23:40
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RealFoxy posted:Assassin meta -> Tank played more often to counter them -> Vayne is strong again I'd rather tankbusting be a itemization specialization choice then a "you lost at champion select" choice, personally.
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Nov 20, 2016 23:51
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LegalPad posted:I think it's silly that some champions have "hard to visually track in a fight" basically built into their kit. I would agree that one of the hardest MOBA skills to learn probably shouldn't have a way to just be turned off during team fights, but I don't really know what the safe middle ground between All Get hosed and No Invisibility In This Area wards is. In other news, Nunu support, still hilarious.
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Nov 21, 2016 00:03
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has anyone tried udyr with colossus yet
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Nov 21, 2016 00:16
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Sperglord Firecock posted:has anyone tried udyr with colossus yet It's gross.
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Nov 21, 2016 00:17
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They already have said Vayne is going to be hit in the coming patch. Twitch so far they said doesn't seem as bad. Guaranteed nerf on Colossus though, no way that poo poo gets out in its present form or you'll see blanket nerfs to a lot of hard CC champs. Given the latter is way too much work, probably the first thing.
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Nov 21, 2016 00:26
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Holy poo poo. Someone make one of these for Nautilus.
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Nov 21, 2016 00:30
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Servaetes posted:They already have said Vayne is going to be hit in the coming patch. Twitch so far they said doesn't seem as bad. Serv in your old age you are forgetting the tried and true balance tactic of nerf champions that benefit from something, then shitcan the actual cause of their power later
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Nov 21, 2016 01:18
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not nerfing Twitch is great, as it encourages adcs to learn the most important skill for the role, how to trade 1 for 1 for the enemy support directly before every objective fight
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Nov 21, 2016 02:07
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Servaetes posted:They already have said Vayne is going to be hit in the coming patch. Twitch so far they said doesn't seem as bad. how about they blanket nerf hard cc champs and then also nerf colossus two patches later. Source: everything theyve done for the last two and a half years.
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Nov 21, 2016 02:12
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I hadn't actually run into a Vayne yet this patch, just nearly lost a game to a terrible one because they got farmed enough to just obliterate everyone in two shots. Not pleasant.
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Nov 21, 2016 02:20
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Work Friend Keven posted:how about they blanket nerf hard cc champs and then also nerf colossus two patches later. Source: everything theyve done for the last two and a half years. no, first, before nerfing hard cc, theyre going to give it a stupid name like mobility denial tools and then develop a multipage research paper on it linking it to toxicity, before removing it entirely from the game, before putting it back in with everything changed so that even though it isnt perceptibly worse it still feels egh so no one will play those champs until someone in korea notices that the changes they put in on some obscure champion were passed over
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Nov 21, 2016 03:18
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riot has historically thought their preseason changes are always good and fine and also incorrectly attribute that the champs taking advantage of their changes are too strong, therefore you have champs ruined for years at a time keven knows all
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stump collector posted:riot has historically thought their preseason changes are always good and fine and also incorrectly attribute that the champs taking advantage of their changes are too strong, therefore you have champs ruined for years at a time I'm still amazed that we haven't seen Warwick mysteriously become op with the introduction of a new on hit jungle item. I expect they'll patch in a plant that provides a true damage on hit buff to rectify this.
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