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Unzip and Attack posted:Not to be too snarky but this is a fantasy that rests on the assumption that elected Republicans have even a broken moral compass. They have nothing of the sort and they will gleefully squeal if Trump goes full fascist because they will be the main beneficiaries. This is the stance I'm taking. There may be some Republican senators with some principles left, but definitely not the majority, and absolutely not the House.
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Harrow posted:There may be some Republican senators with some principles left, but definitely not the majority, and absolutely not the House. no, don't you see, Paul Ryan is a Serious Man with Serious Ideas.
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Nov 21, 2016 16:38
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The Dems just need 3 out of 52 Republican senators to have some form of moral compass regarding at least some things. Rand Paul, as awful as he is most of the time, is one already based on some of the things he's been saying. McCain MIGHT be one too though it's a total toss up.
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Grouchio posted:I'll probably be dissapointed as gently caress (if I wasn't already), stay calm, finish my final college year, slip into the fed's job programs before the hiring freezes can be implemented, ride out the storm, and then support the socialist party. It's not a good time to be planning for a federal job. Even if you beat the potential hiring freeze, new hires are still the first to go.
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Nov 21, 2016 16:39
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Fitzy Fitz posted:It's not a good time to be planning for a federal job. Even if you beat the potential hiring freeze, new hires are still the first to go.
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Nov 21, 2016 16:40
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I don't know. It's probably not a good time to plan for anything, because we have no idea what's about to happen. But "don't plan" is probably bad advice too. I work for state government, but I'm still a little unsure about my future. I've been looking into buying a house lately, but the other day I realized I have no confidence that that would be a sound investment at this point.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The Dems just need 3 out of 52 Republican senators to have some form of moral compass regarding at least some things. Rand Paul, as awful as he is most of the time, is one already based on some of the things he's been saying. McCain MIGHT be one too though it's a total toss up. If anyone sides with the Dems on stopping the worst potential abuses, my money is on Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham. Maybe McCain, but you're right that he's a toss-up. They'd be gambling on Trump's administration not successfully manipulating public opinion and primarying them, but I'd bet at least Paul would take that gamble.
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Harrow posted:If anyone sides with the Dems on stopping the worst potential abuses, my money is on Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham. Maybe McCain, but you're right that he's a toss-up. They'd be gambling on Trump's administration not successfully manipulating public opinion and primarying them, but I'd bet at least Paul would take that gamble. I can't imagine graham getting primaried either.
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Harrow posted:If anyone sides with the Dems on stopping the worst potential abuses, my money is on Rand Paul and Lindsey Graham. Maybe McCain, but you're right that he's a toss-up. They'd be gambling on Trump's administration not successfully manipulating public opinion and primarying them, but I'd bet at least Paul would take that gamble. McCain is in his likely last 6 years so he probably has no worries of being primaried. Rand Paul's term is up in 2 years. Graham's is up in 4. Make of that what you will.
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HannibalBarca posted:no, don't you see, Paul Ryan is a Serious Man with Serious Ideas. He sure is, the man is an absolute true believer - he wants an America where social darwinism is the order of the day and it's every man for himself He makes his interns read Atlas Shrugged
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I don't know. It's probably not a good time to plan for anything, because we have no idea what's about to happen. But "don't plan" is probably bad advice too. First of all don't buy a house for an investment, it's a terrible one. Buy a house when you are financially stable and play to live there for most, if not the rest, of your life. Second panicking and refusing to engage in the economy post Jan 20th will only make things worse. I'm not saying be complacent, by all means we must engage, but we can't just give up. I get it, last week I went into a depression spiral and was seriously considering suicide rather than face the next two years. However now I'm just pissed, my ancestors have fought twice to destroy fascist, racist countries and if I have to I will too. Not with bullets or bombs but with direct action and rallying the 3/4s of the people who don't want Babyhands Hitler as President.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:The Dems just need 3 out of 52 Republican senators to have some form of moral compass regarding at least some things. Rand Paul, as awful as he is most of the time, is one already based on some of the things he's been saying. McCain MIGHT be one too though it's a total toss up. McCain was not that long ago going "I'm not a maverick, I was never a maverick, YOU guys said it, not me!!" to justify falling in line with the loons of his party, and that was before Trump. He'll grumble when the subject is torture, but for anything else, don't expect anything.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I don't know. It's probably not a good time to plan for anything, because we have no idea what's about to happen. But "don't plan" is probably bad advice too. Don't panic but don't continue as if nothing happened. Start saving. Cut back on non-essential purchases. Buy generics more. Think long and hard about buying a house. I bought at near the low point in 2009 and still regret it. House maintenance is a giant pain in the rear end. Even if it financially pays off it has consumed more of my time than I imagined to maintain.
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https://twitter.com/SaraMurray/status/800701318188777472 https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/800706401572007936 take: loving credulous loving tulsi 2020 "leftist" fans a week ago
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On the subject of Dems needing at least three Republican Senators to stand against Trump's most egregious policies, what about Jeff Flake and Ben Sasse? Weren't they big critics of Trump even after he won the nomination?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/SaraMurray/status/800701318188777472 Tulsi is not perfect but I'll take what I can get. Whatever happened to pragmatic incrementalism?
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/SaraMurray/status/800701318188777472 I've been telling my friends this for years, she is not a leftist, she is a nationalist. The progressive movement should have dropped her lock a hot stone when she was palling around with, and campaigning for, BJP candidates.
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Nov 21, 2016 17:12
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WingsOfSteel posted:On the subject of Dems needing at least three Republican Senators to stand against Trump's most egregious policies, what about Jeff Flake and Ben Sasse? Weren't they big critics of Trump even after he won the nomination? Jeff Flake has already said he'll support Jeff Sessions. And Ben Sasse is a critic of Trump as a personality: as far as politics goes, he's as conservative as they come.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Tulsi is not perfect but I'll take what I can get. Whatever happened to pragmatic incrementalism? I'd imagine a large part of pragmatic incrementalism is the incrementalism part; Gabbard's core anti-Islam beliefs would be like a regressive backslide, not a progressive increment.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Tulsi is not perfect but I'll take what I can get. Whatever happened to pragmatic incrementalism? Ask President Hillary.
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Haha, thanks for the house advice, y'all. I've just decided to continue renting and living frugally. It's what I've been doing for the last 10 years, so it won't be a problem to continue. I'm real good at it at this point. Maybe one of the perks of being a millennial is that crushing student loan debt and sputtering careers have left us mentally prepared to deal with an uncertain future.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:https://twitter.com/SaraMurray/status/800701318188777472 I'm of two minds here: a) she is monumentally better than other plausible alternatives in a trump administration (Sec of State David Duke anyone) even given her support for the neocrusades given that neocrusading is the baseline b) even considering this is damning on her part and proof the only reason people were getting the vapors about her was because she'd climbed aboard the Bernie train
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I'd imagine a large part of pragmatic incrementalism is the incrementalism part; Gabbard's core anti-Islam beliefs would be like a regressive backslide, not a progressive increment. Reminder that the source of the claim that Tulsi is a radical islamophobic is an article written on alternet.org Yea, she's a veteran of the Iraq war, she's a practicing Hindu. She's gonna have some lovely beliefs about Islam. She's not perfect. She doesn't have to be. I'll take Tulsi over whoever else Trump has in mind. We unfortunately don't get to call the shots anymore.
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iospace posted:McCain is in his likely last 6 years so he probably has no worries of being primaried. Rand Paul's term is up in 2 years. Graham's is up in 4. Make of that what you will. Rand Paul just had his reelection so he's up in 6 years.
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Gabbard, regardless of what we think of her, would be unwise to take a Trump appointment, unless it's one of the big two (SecState or SecDef). As a Berniecrat she's in a position to angle for the democratic leadership or even position for a white house run in the future. Working for Trump would throw away the progressive bona-fides she was attempting to establish by backing Sanders to begin with. An executive appointment is a lot of work for little reward. Outside of SecState or SecDef, it doesn't really generate the kind of national notoriety that's useful for ambitious young politicians. See: former Democratic rising stars Julian Castro and Anthony Foxx, who will be irrelevant in a month and a half. WingsOfSteel posted:On the subject of Dems needing at least three Republican Senators to stand against Trump's most egregious policies, what about Jeff Flake and Ben Sasse? Weren't they big critics of Trump even after he won the nomination? Flake and Sasse are fire-breathing conservatives. You're better off looking to the few actual moderates. Susan Collins for instance would probably vote against some of Trump's more insane proposals. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 17:34 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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As someone who just discovered that both of his bathrooms have hidden water damage I'm going to echo that you should not buy a house.
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I hope Gabbard is offered a cabinet position and takes it. The Democrats have needed to dump her in the worst way possible, but have been unable to do so without making it look like revenge against Bernie.
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PupsOfWar posted:Flake and Sasse are fire-breathing conservatives. I'm friends with the communications director for Murkowski's senate run; she's definitely #MAGA-friendly
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Looks like Trump's popularity has spiked almost 10 points in the last week to come close to 50 percent
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KomradeX posted:Looks like Trump's popularity has spiked almost 10 points in the last week to come close to 50 percent Keep calling him a racist misogynist pig! We're almost there! Go team blue!
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:I'm friends with the communications director for Murkowski's senate run; she's definitely #MAGA-friendly I think of Murkowski as a standard conservative who's just decent on a couple of token issues that most directly affect her state. Like how Graham's occasional reasonable on climate and energy because south carolina has a lot of nuclear infrastructure and no petrochemical resources.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Tulsi is not perfect but I'll take what I can get. Whatever happened to pragmatic incrementalism? I would not have expected a sentiment like the bolded part from you based on (limited) past exposure to your posting.
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KomradeX posted:Looks like Trump's popularity has spiked almost 10 points in the last week to come close to 50 percent I suspect this is mostly post-purchase rationalization coming into play. The Republicans who voted against Clinton but didn't like him are retroactively justifying their decision by changing their view to approve of him. So long as he remains relatively out of the spotlight and relatively powerless this will continue; expect to see his approval ratings remain approximately equal to his popular vote percentage. Potato Salad posted:I would not have expected a sentiment like the bolded part from you based on (limited) past exposure to your posting. TBS is not posting that (or much of anything really) in good faith, I approve of this thread for resisting the urge to dive back into circa-last-week primary relitigation.
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NewForumSoftware posted:Keep calling him a racist misogynist pig! We're almost there! Go team blue! gently caress off.
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Farking Bastage posted:Wow.. Yeah, my wife concealed carries now 
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Quorum posted:So long as he remains relatively out of the spotlight and relatively powerless this will continue; expect to see his approval ratings remain approximately equal to his popular vote percentage. Relatively out of the spotlight? People are protesting the election results in the streets lmao Who What Now posted:gently caress off. lol
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