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Hector Beerlioz posted:Please do not say bad things about Voyager akoocheemoya yall
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Hector Beerlioz posted:Please do not say bad things about Voyager Thread over then, what else is there to say about it?
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Nov 21, 2016 19:15
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treiz01 posted:Thread over then, what else is there to say about it? Umm, it has a lot less frere jacques than TNG
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Nov 21, 2016 19:18
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EDIT: Every VOY thread devolves into how great DS9 was. Every time. Phone posting sucks Automatic Slim fucked around with this message at 22:05 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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Nov 21, 2016 19:19
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Automatic Slim posted:Every VOY thread devolves into how DS9 was. Every time. DS9 is ))<>(( forever with the same poop
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Nov 21, 2016 19:22
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IS IT NOT POSSIBLE that DS9 was better at being a show IS IT NOT POSSIBLE that DS9 was pretty good television  Oh man, remember Babylon 5?
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Nov 21, 2016 19:22
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we've been watching Dark Matter that's a good show
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Nov 21, 2016 19:23
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Worfs trial episode on DS9 is the most thing deus ex machina on that show, was there anything that actually set up the info saving his rear end other than Odo saying he's looking into stuff and the whole civilian freighter uncloaking in front of the Defiant thing being absolutely ridiculous on it's face (which no one really acknowledges)?
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Nov 21, 2016 19:27
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Yes, Sisko's conversation in the promenade with the Klingon lawyer who is so bad at his job he can't help but boastfully show his hand in an extremely obvious way.
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Nov 21, 2016 19:44
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treiz01 posted:Thread over then, what else is there to say about it? We can talk about all the good things in Voyager. Let list all out favorite things!
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Nov 21, 2016 19:44
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I think Voyager itself looks cool I guess.
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Nov 21, 2016 19:45
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I liked Voyager better when it went by V'ger.
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Nov 21, 2016 19:49
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Usually when shows do that episode the b-story is the persons investigation that slowly reveals the Deus Ex Machina. Odo in this one just calls twice to go "nope, looks pretty legit" and then at the end he calls in and delivers.
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Nov 21, 2016 19:53
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Defiant is better than Voyager Sisko is better than Janeway at everything Kira is way better than Chakotay Odo and Worf are better than Tuvok or Tuvix Quark is better than Neelix (as if this needed saying) Both Dax are better than Seven and Harry O'Brien suffers more than B'lenna Bashir and Doctor are pretty equal really The only bright points of Voyager are Catsuit Seven, Insaneway and Dr. Photons Be Free.
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Nov 21, 2016 19:55
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...and the pitch! posted:Umm, it has a lot less frere jacques than TNG "They call me Madame Lt. Commander Darren  "<whips out the piano from Big, plays Frere Jacques> Picard: "what skill" <wool pants tighten>
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Nov 21, 2016 19:57
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Hector Beerlioz posted:We can talk about all the good things in Voyager. Let list all out favorite things! I like 7 of 9's outfit I like Chakotay's face tattoos I like the Doctor I like it the way Janeway talks And...uh...I like that...there are vulcans of color ...Oh, the opening rocks. That's it.
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Nov 21, 2016 19:57
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psychokitty posted:we've been watching Dark Matter I tried to watch this show, got through the first episode but the writing was 90's as gently caress. All the characters are just the worst most lovely dated cliches imaginable and I want them all to die. My wife specially hated it and I could barely hear the show over her mocking of every character. "Oh I'm a mysterious stoic asian, so obviously I use swords! I am honourable samurai! Asians use swords!" "I'm the strong female protagonist! Don't mess with me because I'm strong and cool and always level headed! Also I'm beating the poo poo out of this confused guy in the first scene in the first episode just to establish how tough and powerful I am" "I'm the 90's hacker girl! Am I autistic or just a special snowflake? One thing's for sure, I'm straight out of a 80's or 90's show about teen hackers and nerds. I'm probably going to rollerblade around the ship" "I'm the pointlessly adversarial rear end in a top hat!!!" "beep boop I'm the sexy android beep. I'm lady Data! What is human friendship beep does not compute beep seriously this character was written in 2015 not 1980 somehow!" It's like someone made a parody of 90's lovely Canadian scify. The writing and characters feel 20 years or more out of date it's such absolute garbage, it's barely a step above Andromeda but feels like it came out at the same time or earlier, like it ran back to back with Tek War.
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Nov 21, 2016 19:58
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MA-Horus posted:Odo and Worf are better than Tuvok or Tuvix Should have edited this one out. Tuvix is pretty great and Odo and Worf a pretty crusty humbug characters.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:03
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Baronjutter posted:I tried to watch this show, got through the first episode but the writing was 90's as gently caress. All the characters are just the worst most lovely dated cliches imaginable and I want them all to die. My wife specially hated it and I could barely hear the show over her mocking of every character. It sounds like watching voyager with your wife is much better than watching voyager any other way, tbh.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:04
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counterfeitsaint posted:It sounds like watching voyager with your wife is much better than watching voyager any other way, tbh. I keep threatening her that we're going to give it a go. She saw some random youtubes of Janeway and the cast and pretty quickly took a disliking to it all. "Everyone feels so wooden, it's like they're trying to be TNG without understanding what made TNG, or that TNG is done and from the 80's and it's not that era anymore and it's foolish to try to recapture it"
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Nov 21, 2016 20:08
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i imagine obrien havin a space scrapbook (with the cool holographic paper like picards pictures in generations) where he saves lil fabric squares that he beams off the panties of all the women or female-like creatures that come on the ship, that specific crotch region where they get those... discolorations... and he just replicates a clean patch of fabric and pops it right in there so all the ladies and possibly-ladies think they have mega clean undies but really the stained bits have just been taped to holographic paper and have words like "kira's hasperat smears" underneath them
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Nov 21, 2016 20:12
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Now that's some powerful Trek creeperdom
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Nov 21, 2016 20:20
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Baronjutter posted:It's like someone made a parody of 90's lovely Canadian scify. The writing and characters feel 20 years or more out of date it's such absolute garbage, it's barely a step above Andromeda but feels like it came out at the same time or earlier, like it ran back to back with Tek War. This made me think back to something. I was looking up something on Youtube and found a show called "Space Hospital". It's like a parody of lovely 60-90s sci-fi but it's so low budget that really almost painful to watch. In fact, I think I only got through a single episode because I noticed Claudia Christian was in an episode and I was curious what she was up to. From what I saw, it ain't that good, but there's something that makes me think that they could ALMOST turn a corner if the folks at Adult Swim would have gotten this thing and ironed out out the problems.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:23
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Gatekeeper posted:i imagine obrien havin a space scrapbook (with the cool holographic paper like picards pictures in generations) where he saves lil fabric squares that he beams off the panties of all the women or female-like creatures that come on the ship, that specific crotch region where they get those... discolorations... and he just replicates a clean patch of fabric and pops it right in there so all the ladies and possibly-ladies think they have mega clean undies but really the stained bits have just been taped to holographic paper and have words like "kira's hasperat smears" underneath them that sounds more like a geordi sort of thing
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Nov 21, 2016 20:24
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VectorSigma posted:that sounds more like a Broccoli sort of thing That's more like it
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Nov 21, 2016 20:29
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Miles doesn't have any weird kinks because that would mean he's getting some sort of release somewhere in his life.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:33
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Miles O'Brien is a simple man. He enjoys spending time with his daughter, playing racquetball, enjoying a nice glass of synthale, and killing spoonheads.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:36
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The opening theme of Voyager was disproportionately good compared to the show itself. I kept waiting for the show to get as good as the soaring theme seemed to foreshadow but then it just never happened.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:39
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There is no way Miles Obrien does not beam himself into a Holosuite late at night and run a program that is a perfect recreation of his sandy-floored mind prison. Just to get his smile back. Just to simply, be.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:39
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MA-Horus posted:That's more like it i originally wrote broccoli, but then realized that he's more of the shy weirdo type, not the creepy weirdo type.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:41
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I like to think Best Captain would have bitch slapped the Caretaker, said 'gently caress the ocampa' and taken the free trip back to the Alpha quadrant. Possibly genociding a few
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Nov 21, 2016 20:52
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I like to think Best Captain would have bitch slapped the Caretaker, said 'gently caress the ocampa' and taken the free trip back to the Alpha quadrant. Possibly genociding a few I guess since you're talking about Kirk you mean "gently caress the ocampa" literally
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Nov 21, 2016 20:55
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CharlieWhiskey posted:The opening theme of Voyager was disproportionately good compared to the show itself. I kept waiting for the show to get as good as the soaring theme seemed to foreshadow but then it just never happened. It was good, but it always seemed too slow-paced for a show where everyone's supposed to be desperate to get home as fast as they can. It would have made more sense for a show like early DS9, "We're just going to sit here and see what comes along." The Next Gen theme had far more of a "We're loving going places and having adventures!" feel to it.
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Nov 21, 2016 21:45
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drat, the Jem'Hadar in The Ship were sporting some Mad Max armor bits. They're about the only military unit in Star Trek that actually looks equipped for ground combat.
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Nov 21, 2016 23:39
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It is supremely hosed that Starfleet security personnel don't even have bodyarmor or anything and it contributes to every action scene in the TV show looking like poo poo At least in DS9 we see that they actually have phaser rifles instead of just the dinky standard issue flashlights
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Nov 21, 2016 23:49
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Fojar38 posted:It is supremely hosed that Starfleet security personnel don't even have bodyarmor or anything and it contributes to every action scene in the TV show looking like poo poo Also they clearly have the technology for personal shields too. Maybe the idea is that personal shields would just result in the enemy using more destructive and deadly weapons. If everyone's just wearing cloth armour you can use the stun setting, if everyone's wearing phaser resistant armour and personal shields you'd end up with everyone shooting each other with weapons strong enough to blow up a city block just to get through that poo poo.
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Nov 21, 2016 23:52
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Fojar38 posted:It is supremely hosed that Starfleet security personnel don't even have bodyarmor or anything and it contributes to every action scene in the TV show looking like poo poo Be careful what you wish for. 
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Nov 22, 2016 00:05
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Powered Descent posted:Be careful what you wish for. Those guys are so rad I wish we saw versions of that throughout the series.
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Nov 22, 2016 00:06
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Powered Descent posted:Be careful what you wish for. Where's the siren and his name on the front?
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gently caress yeah
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