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Venuz Patrol posted:*trump voter voice* hillary's foundation received money from saudi arabia once. *trump voter voice* yeah but talking points memo is biased. i haven't seen it in the real media.
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zegermans posted:The most racist one is the boss's best friend So now you have the choice of doing what's right, or backing down and letting evil fester in plain view. I suggest you do the right thing, but that's just the leftist in me talking.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:*trump voter voice* yeah but talking points memo is biased. i haven't seen it in the real media. *trump voter voice* well, this government has served too many un-American interests for too long. Time for them to serve American interests now.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:20
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I suggest you do the right thing, but that's just the leftist in me talking.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:21
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:So now you have the choice of doing what's right, or backing down and letting evil fester in plain view. I suggest you do the right thing, but that's just the leftist in me talking. What brave stand have you taken for leftist beyond voting for Bernie and not voting for Clinton?
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Nov 21, 2016 20:21
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spotlessd posted:What in the everloving gently caress are you talking about. Fascism succeeds where liberal capitalism strangles socialists in their crib. And socialism/leftism failed by being weak and asleep rather than strong and active. Conversely, American socialist/leftists can't wait for their enemies to weaken themselves, why would they? Only new strengths will be the solution needed, rather than reliving old fights.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:22
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:for the god of the company. PRAISE BE
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Nov 21, 2016 20:23
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zegermans posted:What brave stand have you taken for leftist beyond voting for Bernie and not voting for Clinton? Stop deflecting this back to me. You're either gonna call out racism to your boss, or not do it anything about it and be complicit in it. Or maybe stop posting about it, since it just makes you look like a sad person who's too scared to do the right thing.
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Nov 21, 2016 20:26
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A lovely Reporter posted:How noble of you, to not oppose the worse evil out of self-righteousness that costs you nothing and costs others their lives. Yes, keep being a dick to people who are mad that their party doesn't represent them. Surely this will get Tim Kaine in office in 2020. Also I'm gay so I have a rather big stake in all of this. Don't assume that I take these issues lightly.
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disjoe posted:PRAISE BE All Hail Corporate
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:So now you have the choice of doing what's right, or backing down and letting evil fester in plain view. I suggest you do the right thing, but that's just the leftist in me talking. 
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readingatwork posted:Yes, keep being a dick to people who are mad that their party doesn't represent them. Surely this will get Tim Kaine in office in 2020. Ugh please don't mention the words "Tim Kaine" and "office" together because it might put weird ideas in some people's heads 
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Trabisnikof posted:And socialism/leftism failed by being weak and asleep rather than strong and active. Conversely, American socialist/leftists can't wait for their enemies to weaken themselves, why would they? Only new strengths will be the solution needed, rather than reliving old fights. Weak and asleep? Are you blind or just an idiot? The left in America, and especially abroad, were viciously attacked, imprisoned, murdered, and suppressed at every opportunity. It wasn't fascists waging that war, it was the same species of idiot that today mourns the defeat of Grandma Pinochet.
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spotlessd posted:Weak and asleep? Are you blind or just an idiot? The left in America, and especially abroad, were viciously attacked, imprisoned, murdered, and suppressed at every opportunity. It wasn't fascists waging that war, it was the same species of idiot that today mourns the defeat of Grandma Pinochet. It's trabis, the election boggled his brains. Mind and spirit broken by Trump's ascension to the oval office. Cut him a little slack will ya
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Nov 21, 2016 20:30
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Can you fuckers please take this leftism v iberalism to CSPAM?
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Got anything to say, lil' dawg? I'm sure you've never ever been a participant in something where a third party observer might challenge you with: So now you have the choice of doing what's right, or backing down and letting evil fester in plain view. I suggest you do the right thing, but that's just the leftist in me talking. Where "doing what's right" would have potentially hurt you and not really changed things beyond the damage to you.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Stop deflecting this back to me. You're either gonna call out racism to your boss, or not do it anything about it and be complicit in it. Its easy for you to tell me to go get fired on some great moral crusade, but your smug approval won't pay my mortgage. So I'll keep posting stories about lovely life in Trump's america is.
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HannibalBarca posted:
White Supremacists at Justice and DHS. nice.
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Jitzu_the_Monk posted:New Chris Hedges article suggests that converting Trump supporters away from proto-fascism will require concrete economic relief. Shaming them out of their racist/misogynist fantasies will not be effective. This is a Good Article and it brings up a point that's made many times in the past where these people are so slammed and broken that they're honestly counting on the end of civilization to get a second chance at life. That's horrible and nobody should feel this way. That said, I want to help but at the same time have no idea how. People in PA lament the loss of the coal industry and want it back, but that's as unrealistic as asking for the government to heavily subsidize the horse-and-buggy industry to compete with modern cars. Humanity has found better solutions, and we can't just tell the entirety of society to push back and go back to the "good ole days" when we have poo poo like climate change and other horrible things nipping at our heels. When we invent electric cars that replace gasoline engines, do we owe it to society to keep gas production high to keep Texas afloat? What about the people in Florida who will soon find their houses under water from climate change brought on by oil and gas usage? Do I owe it to them to rebuild the coastline after that? I like these articles because it reminds me of how bad people have it, but at the same time I have yet to read an answer beyond the vague "bring jobs back". I want to bring jobs back, we, as a society, need a solution as to how.
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spotlessd posted:Weak and asleep? Are you blind or just an idiot? The left in America, and especially abroad, were viciously attacked, imprisoned, murdered, and suppressed at every opportunity. It wasn't fascists waging that war, it was the same species of idiot that today mourns the defeat of Grandma Pinochet. Yes that's why it is weak and the only people left are sleepy ideologoues who are focused on history not the future. But sadly there isn't better recourse than to stop trying to win fights we lost before and focus on new ways and means to fight. A simple example is socialism. We need a newer and better ideation of the underlying tenants that is rooted in modern communication and societies. I'm not just objecting to the term from a branding sense, but from a sorta dialectic sense. We need to be able to believe we can do better than socialism and introspect as to way many on the left are hesitant to believe so.
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zegermans posted:Its easy for you to tell me to go get fired on some great moral crusade, but your smug approval won't pay my mortgage. So I'll keep posting stories about lovely life in Trump's america is. Gonna keep this post for the next time someone posts that MLK quote about moderates
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Trabisnikof posted:A simple example is socialism. We need a newer and better ideation of the underlying tenants that is rooted in modern communication and societies. I'm not just objecting to the term from a branding sense, but from a sorta dialectic sense. We need to be able to believe we can do better than socialism and introspect as to way many on the left are hesitant to believe so. ? Why do we need to do better than socialism?
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This is fine https://twitter.com/thehill/status/800783052855119875
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NewForumSoftware posted:? Why do we need to do better than socialism? Well, nothing is perfect, and if we can improve socialism and then put a new coat of paint on it to make it that much more difficult for people to use the baggage of its ancestral ideologies against it, it would likely help a bit.
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Trabisnikof posted:I'm sure you've never ever been a participant in something where a third party observer might challenge you with: I'm sorry but if I heard a co-worker saying in plain language that "ni**ers should be shot" I would definitely do the right thing and try my best to get him fired and of that fails and my boss is best friends with said racist I would loving leave that company, mortgage be damned. Sorry you lack a spine, I guess? Maybe the difference is my military background taught me to fight against what I believe is right, consequences be damned, vs. someone in a white-collar profession being scared their paychecks are gonna take a hit.
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Jitzu_the_Monk posted:New Chris Hedges article suggests that converting Trump supporters away from proto-fascism will require concrete economic relief. Shaming them out of their racist/misogynist fantasies will not be effective. Woah, quite the radical idea: actually trying to help out people instead of yell RACIST at then
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Can we stop saying "this is fine" since we ran that stupid meme to the ground when we thought Trump was gonna get destroyed by the Dems? Am I crazy or did I remember the artist of this comic painted a GOP elephant in the burning room when in fact it should have been a Dem donkey that was melting in the flames?
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NewForumSoftware posted:? Why do we need to do better than socialism? Because that's what it means to be a Leftist or a Progressive, to believe we can always do better and there is always a better world to be had. Consider it a belief in a "Prime's Proof" of utopia limited societies. If there was a "left enough" society then leftism would be wrong in that society, since that's nonaximatic  , there must always be another leftist society out there.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I'm sorry but if I heard a co-worker saying in plain language that "ni**ers should be shot" I would definitely do the right thing and try my best to get him fired and of that fails and my boss is best friends with said racist I would loving leave that company, mortgage be damned. Sorry you lack a spine, I guess? How many people depend on you to supply the money, shelter, and food that keeps them alive? I get what you're saying but not everyone can walk away from their mortgage on a moral basis, no matter how outrageous, friend.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Maybe the difference is my military background taught me to fight against what I believe is right, consequences be damned oooooo ok that's why you're an idiot, you're a Troop. Zerg Mans fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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Trabisnikof posted:Yes that's why it is weak and the only people left are sleepy ideologoues who are focused on history not the future. But sadly there isn't better recourse than to stop trying to win fights we lost before and focus on new ways and means to fight. What does any of this actually mean?
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HannibalBarca posted:
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I'm sorry but if I heard a co-worker saying in plain language that "ni**ers should be shot" I would definitely do the right thing and try my best to get him fired and of that fails and my boss is best friends with said racist I would loving leave that company, mortgage be damned. Sorry you lack a spine, I guess? Perhaps someone would ask you the same question about your military service and "doing what is right" while you would have a different and more nuanced position about the risks and rewards of some leftist ideological stand.
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Trabisnikof posted:Because that's what it means to be a Leftist or a Progressive, to believe we can always do better and there is always a better world to be had. You're going to have to translate that into understandable for me.
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Ripoff posted:This is a Good Article and it brings up a point that's made many times in the past where these people are so slammed and broken that they're honestly counting on the end of civilization to get a second chance at life. That's horrible and nobody should feel this way. These people want jobs because they believe the only means of getting income is a job. If we had some kind of UBI or something akin to Britain's dole - a transfer of wealth from those who have and are making money to those who are not, by whatever name - then they wouldn't want or need a job. We used to have a much stronger social safety net. If we still did, these people would be much better off and way less angry. Not all of them, but enough to make some kind of tangible differenced. But, it's too bad the DNC can't seem to market public assistance to the public, probably because they are paid by their donors not to. Yeah, I know, well, these people "voted against their interests, time and again." Well, they do so because the rich fucks that show up on TV - politicians and otherwise - go along with the grift that it's immigrants, welfare queens, and so on, that are the reason they don't have any money. Liberals think people are way, way more educated than they are, until their girl loses and then they want to euthanize half the population.
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zegermans posted:oooooo ok that's what you're an idiot, you're a Troop. Said the racist enabler
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Can we stop saying "this is fine" since we ran that stupid meme to the ground when we thought Trump was gonna get destroyed by the Dems? Am I crazy or did I remember the artist of this comic painted a GOP elephant in the burning room when in fact it should have been a Dem donkey that was melting in the flames? Get a load of this cargo culting corn cob 
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Trabisnikof posted:Perhaps someone would ask you the same question about your military service and "doing what is right" while you would have a different and more nuanced position about the risks and rewards of some leftist ideological stand. Great use of scare quotes there trabis, now you're really put on your true leftist thinking cap.
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