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Quest For Glory II posted:apparently the AAA game industry is having a little bit of a crisis right now. according to PAL charts, Watch Dogs 2 sold only 20% of what Watch Dogs 1 sold in the same timeframe from launch. Similarly, Mankind Divided sold half of what Human Revolution sold, Gears of War 4 sold 25% of what GOW3 sold, Titanfall 2 sold 25% of what Titanfall 1 sold, Infinite Warfare sold half of what the last COD sold. Remember this is not "(X) launch week vs. (Y) lifetime sales" but "(X) sales after (Z) days vs (Y) sales after (Z) days" Aren't sales figures they repease only for physical copies? If so I imagine digital distribution on consoles becoming much more common is responsible for a lot of that, kind of like how PC sales figures always look abysmal because everyone just buys them from Steam.
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I have been playing Pokémon Moon which is the first mainline Pokémon game I've put any real time into since X. I like it a lot so far. They front loaded the game with original 150 so I get to have a team with a Grimer, Growlithe, and Magnemite pretty much right out the gate instead of having to choose between a bunch of random 'mon I have no familiarity with. They also did a great job of mixing up diversions so there's something to do other than battling. Which is good since the combat is still really easy (although every once in a while a fight will be tricky. ) Definitely the most I've been entertained by a Pokémon game since yellow. Game Freak did good this time.
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Re: AAA sales, I've heard part of it is that companies are now factoring in the long-tail a lot more than first week nowadays so maybe not all doom & gloom.
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Sort of tangentially related to unsustainable AAA development, remember licensed games? Like, it hit me yesterday that I can't really think of the most recent one. There used to be a very long period of time where basically any half-notable blockbuster movie also had a companion video game. The LEGO franchise kind of does this, but it's not exactly on the same level of EVERY HARRY POTTER, LOTR, AND JAMES BOND MOVIE GETS A SHOVELWARE ADAPTATION TOO. Did we finally kill this formerly unstoppable trend? EDIT: After posting this I realize there's been plenty, such as the Arkham games, Telltale's stuff, Shadow of Mordor, etc. But they don't seem like the same level of cash-grabby barrel-scraping and maybe that's why I don't even notice it in the same way. Mung Dynasty fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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Mung Dynasty posted:Sort of tangentially related to unsustainable AAA development, remember licensed games? Nah, they're just on smart phones.
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Nov 21, 2016 19:38
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Goldeneye was bad.
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Mung Dynasty posted:Sort of tangentially related to unsustainable AAA development, remember licensed games? The Arkham stuff is way more of a comic/animated series game than it is a movie game. Shadow of Mordor is also total LotR fanfiction that just happens to share the movie aesthetic. I think the most recent non-Lego explicit movie tie-in game I can think of was Green Lantern. Though I wouldn't be surprised if there's like some double-strength 3DS shovelware for whatever Dreamworks film you want, now that I think of it.
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Lizard Wizard posted:Goldeneye was bad. The game was good at least
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I was playing some Earthworm Jim 2 last night and man I forgot how impressive the graphics were for a SNES game. Easily one of the best looking games for the system.
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Mung Dynasty posted:Did we finally kill this formerly unstoppable trend?
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Mak0rz posted:I was playing some Earthworm Jim 2 last night and man I forgot how impressive the graphics were for a SNES game. Easily one of the best looking games for the system. 
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Nov 21, 2016 19:49
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Pokemon Sun and moon is legit. I got a poison pal this time and it's not gengar  Petting Snorlax was weird until I figured out how to scroll upwards 😬
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Palpek posted:I see some that I've never heard of before in physical stores. They're basically there as gift impulse buys for clueless parents that do remember the name of the movie their kid went to see a month ago. They just fall off the grid when you only use online stores and nobody reviews that poo poo either. There's definitely way fewer of them nowadays, that's for sure. I'll have to keep an eye out next time I'm in a store. This is suddenly weirdly fascinating.
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Mak0rz posted:I was playing some Earthworm Jim 2 last night and man I forgot how impressive the graphics were for a SNES game. Easily one of the best looking games for the system. I like the EWJ games but sometimes they were so well animated it ended up on the wrong side of uncontrollable.
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Sakurazuka posted:I like the EWJ games but sometimes it was so well animated it ended up on the wrong side of uncontrollable. Those levels where you have to save Peter's puppies with the marshmallow are loving awful for this reason imo. Where are the hitboxes god dammit?? 
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I'm really excited to get Pokemon Sun next month to play while traveling. I'm gonna pick Rowlet because he's a cool owl with a bowtie who grows up to be Robin Hoot and I don't see how I could reasonably choose any other starter. Gonna get Sun for Alolan Ninetails 
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The games where you literally play through every major scene in the movie doing for or less what the characters did in the movie for ten times as long are almost dead, thankfully. And the world has realized that a licensed game doesn't necessarily have to coincide with a major release from the base franchise, which is also good as rushing to make film premiere dates is one of the reasons those games were garbage in the first place. I like to think we can thank the Chronicles of Riddick game for this, which came out in 2004 and was also really drat good.
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Sakurazuka posted:I like the EWJ games but sometimes it was so well animated it ended up on the wrong side of uncontrollable. The controls for whipping is extremely unintuitive. That segment in hell with the consecutive swings is a huge stumbling block for me.
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Mung Dynasty posted:I'll have to keep an eye out next time I'm in a store. This is suddenly weirdly fascinating.
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deadly_pudding posted:The Arkham stuff is way more of a comic/animated series game than it is a movie game. Shadow of Mordor is also total LotR fanfiction that just happens to share the movie aesthetic. I think the most recent non-Lego explicit movie tie-in game I can think of was Green Lantern. Though I wouldn't be surprised if there's like some double-strength 3DS shovelware for whatever Dreamworks film you want, now that I think of it. There was Amazing Spider-Man 2 from two years ago. I see it pretty cheap on the Playstation Store.
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I'm a little disappointed we never got a game based on Edge of Tomorrow since it's the one movie where having the player proceed through it exactly as Tom Cruise did would work perfectly.
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There was a Ghostbusters 2016 tie-in game.
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Mordja posted:Yeah, gently caress that poo poo. It also automatically turns on streaming functionality when you launch a game too. Oh yeah, are their latest drivers still broken or have they fixed them yet? I'll let you know, I was getting a lot of crashes with Planet Coaster and someone in the thread suggested old drivers might be the issue.
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Palpek posted:There was a Ghostbusters 2016 tie-in game. I thought that was just a steaming turd they passed at the same time as the film's release
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I remember really enjoying the game version of The World Is Not Enough, specifically the version that had you doing everything that happened in the movie. I remember there were at least 2 games made for that movie, I forget which one was the super faithful representation but it was really neat because I remember the bit where in the movie james is running away from an explosion and grabs a crane thing to zipline across and you have to do that in the game and I felt so proud figuring out I had to copy the movie.
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this is appropo of nothing but I flipped through channels and saw that Joel McHale and Aisha Tyler were both on The Talk the two titans of Ubisoft E3s, side by side
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Palpek posted:There was a Ghostbusters 2016 tie-in game. tap my mountain posted:I thought that was just a steaming turd they passed at the same time as the film's release Yeah, it wasn't really a movie tie-in. You're not there playing as Melissa McCarthy or anything. It's a roster of totally made up Busters that I think weren't even from the comic books. Same characters as the lovely mobile game that came out around the same time.
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Bunch of random youtubers have video of Grasshopper's f2p dark souls roguelike today, it actually looks ok. They still swear it's coming out before the end of the year. https://youtu.be/plw-zOVSmVc
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Since it's the 25th anniversary of Zelda: A Link to the Past, and I've never played it, I figured now is as good a time as any. But which emulator should I use? I'm using an Xbone controller on Win10.
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Palpek posted:Some of it moved to the model of patching new movie characters to existing games. [...] This kind of thing is far more common now that I think about it. Payday 2 has DLC for Point Break 2015 and both John Wick films, Rocket League has the Batmobile from Dawn of Justice, that kind of thing. Getting content for an existing game is probably cheaper and has a better chance of getting played.
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lets hang out posted:Bunch of random youtubers have video of Grasshopper's f2p dark souls roguelike today, it actually looks ok. They still swear it's coming out before the end of the year. why this and not shadows of the damned or lollipop chainsaw
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Gungho doesn't own either of those
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Help Im Alive posted:I've been waiting for that Salt and Sanctuary thing to go on sale on PSN forever because I heard it's good It's definitely really fun. Let It Die also looks real fun That PSN black friday sale is gonna own... ...my wallet
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Mung Dynasty posted:why this and not shadows of the damned or lollipop chainsaw They are trying to make a good game this time
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FirstAidKite posted:I remember really enjoying the game version of The World Is Not Enough, specifically the version that had you doing everything that happened in the movie. I remember there were at least 2 games made for that movie, I forget which one was the super faithful representation but it was really neat because I remember the bit where in the movie james is running away from an explosion and grabs a crane thing to zipline across and you have to do that in the game and I felt so proud figuring out I had to copy the movie. Bond games are weird because at first glance the movies have all of the vehicle and gun action and set pieces that seem straight out of a videogame already so it should be a good fit but then that means having levels where you're switching up the gameplay several times and spreading your game development resources thin. One reason Goldeneye worked so well is that except for the one tank part they made the entire game a FPS. Stealth amounted to using your silencer. Melee combat meant using your judo chop. There was no flying, no gambling, no dialogue system, etc. Just shooting people.
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:They are trying to make a good game this time taste my big boner
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:They are trying to make a good game this time Lollipop Chainsaw was a Good Game Shadows of the Damned was... okay.
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I've always thought the way to make a killer modern James Bond game would be to cop the basic play from Mass Effect or even Deus Ex, make it an RPG with a ton of dialogue and roleplaying and a gambling minigame all built on the framework of a shooter that allows for multiple approaches. You could even allude to the multiple Bonds/Bond is a codename thing by letting the player visually customize Bond (maybe even with presets modeled after actors like Connery and Craig) If that's what Alpha Protocol is don't tell me because I like to be ignorant Baku fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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Lobok posted:Bond games are weird because at first glance the movies have all of the vehicle and gun action and set pieces that seem straight out of a videogame already so it should be a good fit but then that means having levels where you're switching up the gameplay several times and spreading your game development resources thin. One reason Goldeneye worked so well is that except for the one tank part they made the entire game a FPS. Stealth amounted to using your silencer. Melee combat meant using your judo chop. There was no flying, no gambling, no dialogue system, etc. Just shooting people. I think the best 007 game post-Goldeneye is Everything Or Nothing. Just an overall fun and neat game, though I wish I had someone to play the co-op campaign with.
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wizard on a water slide posted:I've always thought the way to make a killer modern James Bond game would be to cop the basic play from Mass Effect or even Deus Ex, make it an RPG with a ton of dialogue and roleplaying and a gambling minigame all built on the framework of a shooter that allows for multiple approaches. You could even allude to the multiple Bonds/Bond is a codename thing by letting the player visually customize Bond (maybe even with presets modeled after actors like Connery and Craig) That's what Alpha Protocol is except for the good gameplay.
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