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IcePhoenix posted:Why would I be? This whole thing started with an "I wonder if" statement and now people are taking it as something I expect to happen. I wonder if the Angels would trade Trout to the Yankees for Jacoby Ellsbury straight up. (Also as somebody who drafted AP first round in their work league, I love/hate your new avatar.)
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I was just trying to figure out what your reasoning was. If you're just curious, then no, they won't do that.
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Inspector_666 posted:I wonder if the Angels would trade Trout to the Yankees for Jacoby Ellsbury straight up. I mean, in my opinion they should.
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Inspector_666 posted:I wonder if the Angels would trade Trout to the Yankees for Jacoby Ellsbury straight up. My avatar is Teddy!
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Nov 21, 2016 21:37
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Paul Zuvella posted:I mean, in my opinion they should. Well yeah, duh. IcePhoenix posted:My avatar is Teddy! That makes more sense but I still appreciate it!
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Nov 21, 2016 21:38
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IcePhoenix posted:My avatar is Teddy! It seems someone can't tell black men apart!
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Nov 21, 2016 21:46
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Cardinals gave Cecil 4 yrs/30 MM? Chapman might get that absurd deal he's looking for after all.
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Brett Cecil is good. I would rather pay him that than Chapman $20m a year.
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Intruder posted:It seems someone can't tell black men apart! My entire NFL knowledge is limited to fantasy-related info, so player numbers (at least non-Giants) is right out.
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It was just a dumb joke but for realsies RBs aren't allowed to have single digit numbers IIRC
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Intruder posted:It was just a dumb joke but for realsies RBs aren't allowed to have single digit numbers IIRC I know. It's funny, I was telling somebody I know just enough about the NFL now to be dangerous, and there you go!
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tadashi posted:Teams really should trade with Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer because they might rip you off but you might also end up with a possible best-in-generation infielder or at least one of the best. Id rather still have him. I think we could have gotten another reliever and won the WS and still kept that guy. We're going to hate that move for the next 20 years.
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Nov 21, 2016 22:08
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bad boy in the boy band posted:Id rather still have him. I think we could have gotten another reliever and won the WS and still kept that guy. We're going to hate that move for the next 20 years. The Cubs won the World Series for the first time in over a century. All moves justified.
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bad boy in the boy band posted:Id rather still have him. I think we could have gotten another reliever and won the WS and still kept that guy. We're going to hate that move for the next 20 years. I feel confident in saying that unless they had gotten Miller instead, the Cubs would not have won the WS without Chapman.
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Niwrad posted:I feel confident in saying that unless they had gotten Miller instead, the Cubs would not have won the WS without Chapman. Seriously. While He's likely not worth the high price he's gonna get paid. Chapman was really really loving good for the Cubs this offseason. His bad outings were both due to the Manager putting him unnecessarily difficult and almost impossible(almost got out of one of them with two straight strikeouts with the bases loaded but then gave up a base hit) situations, and with really high usage for a guy not used to it. Chapman was criminally underrated by Cubs fans this year. I mean gently caress him as a person but yeah.
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 http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources-rangers-prospects-questioned-for-allegedly-sexually-hazing-underage-teammate-210055315.htmlquote:Eight Texas Rangers prospects were questioned by police in the Dominican Republic after a video showed a group of players sexually assaulting an underage teammate in a hazing incident that targeted players new to the team’s Dominican complex, sources familiar with the case told Yahoo Sports.
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bad boy in the boy band posted:Id rather still have him. I think we could have gotten another reliever and won the WS and still kept that guy. We're going to hate that move for the next 20 years. No one with any sense will ever think twice about that move ever again.
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just boys being boys imo.
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Yikes, Rangers.
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Dexo posted:just boys being boys imo. No gay stuff
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Like Seriously. Championships are precious. If you have a chance to win one and you have a glaring weakness at a position or role you burn those prospects to get the pieces you need. The infield core of this team is set for a while. The Cubs have infielders out the loving wazoo. Like if there is one thing I trust Theo, Jed, and Jason to do is find loving infielders. They put this one together(sans Baez anyway, and they kept him and developed him)
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Nov 21, 2016 22:38
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only cub fans will second guess moves that won them their first title in 108 years
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Prospect hugging is one thing, wishing you had prospect hugged instead of winning the drat world series is on a whole new level and I'm glad it was a Cubs fan that took us there.
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Poque posted:only cub fans will second guess moves that won them their first title in 108 years Only insane ones tbh.
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Tender Bender posted:Prospect hugging is one thing, wishing you had prospect hugged instead of winning the drat world series is on a whole new level and I'm glad it was a Cubs fan that took us there. I never said I'd trade the World Series to have Torres back. You're being deliberately obtuse. I said I think we could have won the Series AND kept Torres. Reading comprehension is your friend. bad boy in the boy band posted:Id rather still have him. I think we could have gotten another reliever and won the WS and still kept that guy. We're going to hate that move for the next 20 years. Nice try, though. Try to keep up. BigBallChunkyTime fucked around with this message at 22:55 on Nov 21, 2016 |
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Nov 21, 2016 22:53
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Zeeman posted:
Doesn't sound like a happy ending.
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TMMadman posted:Doesn't sound like a happy ending. Hey, I have a great idea! Let's hold him down and jerk him off and then call him gay and laugh! But we're not gay, even though we're the ones touching his junk.
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Nov 21, 2016 22:57
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Torres was worth trading for what Chapman did in Game 5 alone.
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Zeeman posted:
All my teams are composed of sexual deviants, and as long as they win that's A-okay.
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bad boy in the boy band posted:I never said I'd trade the World Series to have Torres back. You're being deliberately obtuse. Yes I too can say the Cubs would have won with *insert better reliever here*. I'll go one step further. The Cubs would have won without a different reliever if they had just sprinkled magic pixie dust on Strop and he turned into Miller No freaking team was going to deal their top flight reliever/closer, who would be notably better than Rondon(who was actually decent at the time of the trade), without Scwarbs or Torres being included in the deal.
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Niwrad posted:Torres was worth trading for what Chapman did in Game 5 alone. Not saying Chapman wasn't awesome. He was. I said from day one we traded way too goddamn much to rent him. I will look back at this past offseason with nothing but great fondness for the rest of my life, and World Series highlights videos on Youtube will get me through til Opening Day. But when you have a guy with the potential that Torres does, I think you need more than a rental for him. I wouldn't be saying this if Chapman had signed long term with us.
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bad boy in the boy band posted:I never said I'd trade the World Series to have Torres back. You're being deliberately obtuse. What closer would you have rather gotten? You traded a lesser prospect for Montgomery, and look at what Cleveland gave up for Miller in terms of setting the market.
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bad boy in the boy band posted:Hey, I have a great idea! Let's hold him down and jerk him off and then call him gay and laugh! I can't be the only one who thinks that if the victim could have turned it around on the assaulters by making it weird for them. If the victim had made sounds like he was enjoying it or said something like 'hey could one of you spit on it to give me a little lube' or 'man, this is really hot' then things would have gotten really strange for the ones doing the assault. Edit - although I guess it might have gotten violent instead.
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cards released brayan pena, what a great back up for yadi he was and will be missed
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bad boy in the boy band posted:I never said I'd trade the World Series to have Torres back. You're being deliberately obtuse. "I'd still rather have him." "We're gonna hate that move for the next 20 years." Whoops yeah I'm a dummy for thinking you were second guessing the trade instead of just musing about how it would be awesome to have won all the games you won WITHOUT having traded for the players that won those games. You don't know how they would have done without Chapman. Again, Miller was the only comparable reliever out there and you're giving up a bigger package if you want him.
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bad boy in the boy band posted:Not saying Chapman wasn't awesome. He was. I said from day one we traded way too goddamn much to rent him. I'd maybe say that if they traded someone like Schwarber for him. Someone who you can safely assume has good MLB caliber talent. But Torres is still 19 years old. A guy in A ball. Still a long ways from being in the big leagues. There are a lot of guys who could play well in A ball that couldn't develop in to ML stars (remember Felix Pie was shredding A ball too at 19). Now I understand if you think they overpaid for a 1-year rental closer, but what other options did they have? It was a sellers market and Chapman was the best closer available. It filled a huge hole the Cubs had. What did you think the Cubs should have done at the deadline?
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Prospect hugging is the dumbest thing, but made infinitely moreso when the trade your team made had a tangible impact on winning the championship I say this as someone who prospect hugs like loving crazy I remember how massive the return in the Hunter Pence traded appeared, and not a single one of those guys is any good
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Intruder posted:Prospect hugging is the dumbest thing, but made infinitely moreso when the trade your team made had a tangible impact on winning the championship Amen
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Also "We could still have won without Chapman" isn't a very good counter to "We did win with Chapman." The series was as close as it could be and went into extras in game freaking 7, and if you want to blame Chapman for it going into extras fine, but he probably would have pitched better if Maddon hadn't decided to use him for 4 outs in game 6 for some crazy reason
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Scob posted:cards released brayan pena, what a great back up for yadi he was and will be missed All hail Carson Kelly, heir apparent to Yadi.
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