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Bip Roberts posted:It will stop a very select kind of border crossing before it's tunneled under and to little or nothing for stemming undocumented immigrates overall. The best part about it is that it will most likely stop the least harmful border crossings: people looking for economic salvation. The actual criminals won't have a single loving problem getting through it.
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Rexicon1 posted:This is also acceptable as I have craved death for years now. I crave fast food. Same difference I guess. But seriously, The best has yet to come. please do not die.
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thechosenone posted:I crave fast food. Same difference I guess. You're a sweetheart
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Rexicon1 posted:The best part about it is that it will most likely stop the least harmful border crossings: people looking for economic salvation. The actual criminals won't have a single loving problem getting through it. Ultimately they will just use the alternate methods. This is why a detection system would probably work better. we can spread eyes faster than walls. can sense underground movement and illegal sea crossing and what not. Not really that important though.
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Mantis42 posted:The Wall actually will be built and will probably do an okay job of stopping border crossings, please do not take John Oliver's stupid bit seriously. You should probably worry about literally any of Trump's other policies which will be a thousand times worst than his stupid vanity project. Why will the wall be better than the fence they already have? Realize catapults and ramps are already used to get over the border fence. 
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boner confessor posted:just want to quote this for when i get accused of disrespecting the military, here's a dude from the military disrespecting the majority of the military Um.....I was in the military from 03 to 09. The vast majority of the hundreds of soldiers I served with were combat veterans,many with multiple deployments, don't be obtuse. Also, I'm a girl, not a guy.
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boner confessor posted:just want to quote this for when i get accused of disrespecting the military, here's a dude from the military disrespecting the majority of the military And what I said is that the majority of enlistees after 9/11 are combat vets, if you aren't by this time, everyone else in the army/marines are going to look down on you, fact. Do you have any military service?
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Rexicon1 posted:The best part about it is that it will most likely stop the least harmful border crossings: people looking for economic salvation. The actual criminals won't have a single loving problem getting through it. The drat cartels have loving submarines so unless we set up a net as well we ain't stopping poo poo.
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Thalantos posted:Um.....I was in the military from 03 to 09. The vast majority of the hundreds of soldiers I served with were combat veterans,many with multiple deployments, don't be obtuse. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_perception Thalantos posted:Do you have any military service? no, i worked for a living
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Thalantos posted:Um.....I was in the military from 03 to 09. The vast majority of the hundreds of soldiers I served with were combat veterans,many with multiple deployments, don't be obtuse. He was probably talking about support personnel, of which I have heard there are a lot of in order to make sure things go well for those who have to go into combat. Either way, combat or not, everyone who works in the military deserves a fair shake like everyone else. They are all close to our hearts, what with many of them being family. Although I'm sure plenty of folks who could be in the line of fire are lucky enough not to see any. Doesn't say anything about their character. Just means they are fortunate. No one should want to see combat. They want to see cheezeburger stands. and stuff like that. thechosenone fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Hey, the Berlin wall worked so our wall is going to work too because we're America and we can build a wall better than those Krauts.
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Trabisnikof posted:Why will the wall be better than the fence they already have? Realize catapults and ramps are already used to get over the border fence. hello, the wall is gonna be golden and is gonna be engraved with the words "TRUMP", these mexican terrorists are gonna flee when they see it 
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comingafteryouall posted:Hey, the Berlin wall worked so our wall is going to work too because we're America and we can build a wall better than those Krauts. But the soviets built the wall....
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:But the soviets built the wall.... Then we're definitely better than those loving pinko commie bastards 
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:the m240 GANGSTER is a pretty sick weapon tbh I do love the mk 19.  Was supposed top have a infantry dude attached my team to man it, but.. we didn't get one, so since I was the FNG.....I even got to fire it once before we went outside the wire!(there's that high quality army training.....)
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boner confessor posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_perception From what I heard form my dad, the military was a whole lot of work. Maybe some of it isn't necessary, but I don't think that makes it not work. The grass is always greener on the other side, ya know?
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comingafteryouall posted:Hey, the Berlin wall worked so our wall is going to work too because we're America and we can build a wall better than those Krauts. It was also like three or four walls in tandem. Complete with barbed wire and spike traps. So...
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thechosenone posted:From what I heard form my dad, the military was a whole lot of work. so is assembling the world's largest transformers collection but that's not any more useful for society than shooting at third world farmers who can't shoot back
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citybeatnik posted:The drat cartels have loving submarines so unless we set up a net as well we ain't stopping poo poo. I have to imagine Cartels are investing heavily in drones too. Have a fleet of drones dropping off small quantities (5-10 kilo) at random spots in the desert. Have "Hikers" pick them up the next day. Its like geocaching. But with drugs. Or do what they've been doing for 30 years. Load the poo poo up by the pallet and ship it on a common carrier. Or ship it in by the container. Only a small fraction of inbound cargo gets searched.
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boner confessor posted:so is assembling the world's largest transformers collection but that's not any more useful for society than shooting at third world farmers who can't shoot back I imagine they didn't do that as much as they got into actual fire fights. Not saying it doesn't happen, just that it doesn't happen as often as you might think compared to actually getting shot. And my point is that work is work, and you don't enjoy work. Assembling a huge collection of things you like is not work, its a hobby.
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comingafteryouall posted:Hey, the Berlin wall worked so our wall is going to work too because we're America and we can build a wall better than those Krauts. Sorry, but the Greatest Wall will always be the one in China. When your wall lasts multiple millennia, then you can talk about how great that wall is. (Walls are worthless, never stopped an invader that wanted to get in in all of history)
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jwang posted:Sorry, but the Greatest Wall will always be the one in China. When your wall lasts multiple millennium, then you can talk about how great that wall is. (Walls are worthless, never stopped an invader that wanted to get in in all of history) I could see a wall working if it encouraged your opponent to do something disadvantageous to them. Though I figure there are easier ways to do that.
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Thalantos posted:I do love the mk 19. Thank god for Marine Combat Training  I served with the army while I was in AZ doing UAV work and surprisingly made a lot of good friends with soldiers. One thing I noticed was the USMC is wayyyy stricter and and authoritarian than the army.
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I don't get it. The wind mills could probably coexist with a golf course if you set it up right. Why fight against it when you could just make it conform to your desires? don't put them on the course. If they fly out too far and hit a windmill, they were probably a loss anyway, that is why you bring lots of golfballs.
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Xae posted:I have to imagine Cartels are investing heavily in drones too. Yea they are, they're even using some of our own 
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Thank god for Marine Combat Training My dad was in the Navy. I didn't hear much about the marines, just that they and the sailors didn't really interact much. I figure they probably talked with each other plenty, and it's nothing that some cooperation meeting or events wouldn't fix eventually. Everyone enjoys fun.
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thechosenone posted:I don't get it. The wind mills could probably coexist with a golf course if you set it up right. Why fight against it when you could just make it conform to your desires? don't put them on the course. If they fly out too far and hit a windmill, they were probably a loss anyway, that is why you bring lots of golfballs. He doesn't want them off the course, he wants them not visible from the course.
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Why are so many Goons just operating under the assumption that we're going to have 8 years of Trump? I mean talk about a loving self defeating attitude.
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boner confessor posted:
Are you saying the important humanitarian work our armed forces do aren't work? The Haiti earthquake? The tsunamis in SE Asia?
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I can't wait until he spends the first 45 minutes of the state of the union shilling timeshares and Trump vodka.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Why are so many Goons just operating under the assumption that we're going to have 8 years of Trump? I mean talk about a loving self defeating attitude. 4 years aint enough time to mount a defense against an incumbent president. We still can't even decide if we want to change our messaging (we should) or continue telling working class folks that their jobs are gone and they should die quietly.
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:Are you saying the important humanitarian work our armed forces do aren't work? The Haiti earthquake? The tsunamis in SE Asia? not combat deployments so not real military according to thalantos
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haveblue posted:He doesn't want them off the course, he wants them not visible from the course. Couldn't they make them visually appealing? I bet they could do that. Like, they could even put Gold colored T's on them. or make them multicolored. There are so many potentially ways to make them visually appealing.
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I seem to recall reading that Dick Cheney had his own situation room built at Number One Observatory Circle, but can't seem to find anything to corroborate it now. Did I dream this?
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boner confessor posted:not combat deployments so not real military according to thalantos I don't think Thalantos would agree with that. Everyone in the military is a part of the military.
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Full article about Richard Spencer's NPI conference Nazi salutes: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/ I can’t overstate how incredibly damaging this video is. This is a complete failure on their part and their leaders are livid right now. I especially love the crowd; you could just sneak up on these people and yell “Sieg Heil” and their arm will be up before they even realise. This is a watershed moment. The alt-right does not openly associate themselves with Nazism because they know how bad it looks. People like Spencer don’t call people "kike" and when they approach the "Jewish Question" they do so carefully. Sure, there’s also the Daily Stormer and The Right Stuff who will gladly call themselves Nazis, but the rest of the alt-right publicly dismisses them as "LARPers"; a bunch of cooks who "discredit White identity via guilt by association". Such a dismissal can be found on Breitbart in Milo's seminal essay An establishment guide to the alt-right. In Richard Spencer’s AMA on the altright subreddit, he wrote Richard Spencer posted:I must be honest. I don't think directly associating ourselves with movements of the past like Nazism is the best way to go about changing the culture. We need to be a new cultural movement, one that can appeal to the best of the normies. Richard Spencer posted:2/ Again, "neo-Nazis," in the sense of people who are stuck in the 1930s, are really a non-starter. We need new movements. Could you imagine leftists calling themselves "Stalinists," or embracing the iconography and uniforms of the Soviet Union? Historical reenactment is not a good politics. And then he just goes "Hail Trump! Hail Our People! Hail Victory!" (did you know that "Hail Victory" in German is said “Sieg Heil”?). Incomprehensible… Did he just get caught in the heat of the moment? Sure, the press wasn’t supposed to be there still, but they themselves were livestreaming it. It’s on their freaking youtube (no view of the salutes in the crowd though)... Their entire movement is affected because Spencer is the one who coined and popularised the term “alt-right”. This is going to be to goto video to discredit them for years to come. No need to link ADL or SPLC articles, or argue about the not so subtle connections with the LARPers. BAM! A 10 seconds video and years of their work to present themselves as “respectable” are wiped out. I am really giddy about this. Really great journalistic work by the Atlantic. No need to restrain ourselves from calling Steve Bannon a Nazi now. He brought it on himself. It especially warms my heart to think of Peter Brimelow of VDare, who spoke at the conference. He has always described VDare as a totally legitimate website that happens to focus on immigration issues and we're totally not White Nationalists or anything I swear, well ok maybe we have a White Nationalist article once in a while but we print lots of different views so it doesn't mean anything… Brimelow says this stuff literally every time anybody tries to associate VDare with the alt-right and it’s the most infuriating thing… In fact I skimmed over the 10 hours video of the conference and there he was saying exactly that again. Anyways, he’s not happy: Juvenile Bravado Undercuts NPI Conference Triumph, And VDARE.com Peter Brimelow posted:VDARE.com readers came up to me in consternation at the end of the National Policy Institute’s very well-attended conference in Washington DC when Richard B. Spencer concluded his emotional defense of whites with the words, apparently extemporized “Hail Trump! Hail Our People! Hail Victory!” He got a standing ovation, but several in the crowd added Nazi salutes. We had been assured that the press had been excluded but experience has taught this cannot be relied upon.
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boner confessor posted:not combat deployments so not real military according to thalantos Yea they are combat deployments, you know nothing about marine expeditionary units and what they do.
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thechosenone posted:He was probably talking about support personnel, of which I have heard there are a lot of in order to make sure things go well for those who have to go into combat. Either way, combat or not, everyone who works in the military deserves a fair shake like everyone else. They are all close to our hearts, what with many of them being family. The Iraq war really saw a lot of blurring of those lines. I should have been behind a desk writing reports during my deployment, and, well.....I wasn't. Look at all the women getting combat action badges even though women weren't allowed in combat arms.
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Shagman posted:Full article about Richard Spencer's NPI conference Nazi salutes: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/richard-spencer-speech-npi/508379/ Further proof that the type of people who favor Nazi ideology in the 21st century are not the pick of the litter. Hopefully this gives further ammunition to Kushner to show Trump that the alt-right and by association Bannon should be minimized in his cabinet.
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