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Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Serf posted:

this would 100% destroy any trust people have left in the processes of government

And so what exactly? What trust do we have remaining? We just elected an emotionally unstable fascist. The electors, if they had any moral backbone at all, would do this, repercussions be damned (and trust me, the repercussions would be minimal because Americans simply don't give a gently caress anymore).

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Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Serf posted:

the dude won the electoral college, which is a hosed up institution that shouldn't exist, but he won it

time to make peace with that and work towards saving what we can on 2018 and beating him in 2020

i think we should do the opposite of accepting it

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

lmao if true.

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



i think we should definitely just keep this sinking ship steady as we head towards the bottom. who's up for a rousing debate on the definition of "normal" in the meantime?

pathetic little tramp
Dec 12, 2005

by Hillary Clinton's assassins
Fallen Rib
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/801110690387857408

who has that screenshot of ben carson saying "im fuckin retard pls dont give me jorb"

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


pathetic little tramp posted:

Find that video of Trump meeting with the KGB after raping a 12 year old in 1987 and that'll happen.

Rick Wilson will droppo that oppo any second now!

WarMECH
Dec 23, 2004

Serf posted:

the dude won the electoral college, which is a hosed up institution that shouldn't exist, but he won it

time to make peace with that and work towards saving what we can on 2018 and beating him in 2020

Seriously. All of these calls to get the EC to vote for Clinton or some other candidate is loving insane and would literally cause Civil War 2.0 if it happened.

We just need to spend the next 4 years harping on the fact the Dems won the Pop vote and work towards people actually getting out in 2018/2020 to make a difference.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Nichael posted:

And so what exactly? What trust do we have remaining? We just elected an emotionally unstable fascist. The electors, if they had any moral backbone at all, would do this, repercussions be damned (and trust me, the repercussions would be minimal because Americans simply don't give a gently caress anymore).

the EC was made specifically to stop someone like donald trump and it's also directly responsible for his rise to power

i'm not sure how anyone could "make peace" with this

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!

Serf posted:

this would 100% destroy any trust people have left in the processes of government

*extremely willy wonka voice*

Oh no the people who spent the last 2 months of the election saying everything was rigged and they were going to do a revolution if they lost won't trust the electoral process anymore

please

stop

Dick Milhous Rock!
Aug 9, 1974

:nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon:

:nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon::nixon:
Although any plan that involves Republicans not slamming down votes for an incestuous rapist con artist who is owned by Russia is a bad plan, see Hillary Clinton's campaign

Fidel Castronaut
Dec 25, 2004

Houston, we're Havana problem.

Serf posted:

this would 100% destroy any trust people have left in the processes of government

You say that like it's a bad thing. We'd at least get some sort of reform of the electoral college out of it.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Not saying it's a good idea, that's just a dumb as hell argument against it.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

WarMECH posted:

Seriously. All of these calls to get the EC to vote for Clinton or some other candidate is loving insane and would literally cause Civil War 2.0 if it happened.

We just need to spend the next 4 years harping on the fact the Dems won the Pop vote and work towards people actually getting out in 2018/2020 to make a difference.

we're going to do that too but I think we should ALSO try to gently caress over donald trump with the ec even though it won't work

just shuffling off to the corner for 2 years is what trump & pals want

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy
lmfao I'm a pissed off (((muslim satanist jew marxist street preacher))) and donald trump is president-elect

tfw allahu ackbar

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
barron having autism would be a step up when compared to the otger two trump boys

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



Haha wow this deck of the ship is getting a little damp huh? by the way we should definitely hang tight until 2018 and just be depressed in the meantime.

mannerup
Jan 11, 2004

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pathetic little tramp posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/801110690387857408

who has that screenshot of ben carson saying "im fuckin retard pls dont give me jorb"

lol this isn't even a trial balloon, it's just pure media bait

saw over a dozen reporters immediately respond to it instantly

Serf
May 5, 2011


Nichael posted:

And so what exactly? What trust do we have remaining? We just elected an emotionally unstable fascist. The electors, if they had any moral backbone at all, would do this, repercussions be damned (and trust me, the repercussions would be minimal because Americans simply don't give a gently caress anymore).

the repercussions would be incredible. If we somehow didn't undergo a schism that would make the Civil War look like a sandbox hissy fit, no one would have any faith in the government. Clinton would have no mandate to rule, and her administration would not be taken seriously. And more insidiously, we would lose our chance to kill neoliberalism.


Yinlock posted:

i think we should do the opposite of accepting it

you can deny reality all you want, but Trump will be President on Jan. 20th. what are you gonna do to fight him?

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Yinlock posted:

the EC was made specifically to stop someone like donald trump and it's also directly responsible for his rise to power

i'm not sure how anyone could "make peace" with this

Exactly. It is naive to think that Americans would do anything at all no matter what the electors end up doing. The electors could convene and choose my pet cat to be our next president, and the vast majority of citizens won't react.

The electors should absolutely try to prevent this catastrophe. The fact that they will not is morally shameful.

Nichael fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Nov 22, 2016

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



crazy cloud posted:

lmfao I'm a pissed off (((muslim satanist jew marxist street preacher))) and donald trump is president-elect

tfw allahu ackbar

proper normal, mate :thumbsup:

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

pathetic little tramp posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/801110690387857408

who has that screenshot of ben carson saying "im fuckin retard pls dont give me jorb"

dude he already told you this was all just to sell books! stop trying to make him do real work!

Serf
May 5, 2011


Intel&Sebastian posted:

*extremely willy wonka voice*

Oh no the people who spent the last 2 months of the election saying everything was rigged and they were going to do a revolution if they lost won't trust the electoral process anymore

please

stop

it wouldn't just be Trump's people who would lose faith in the government

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

100 degrees Calcium posted:

Haha wow this deck of the ship is getting a little damp huh? by the way we should definitely hang tight until 2018 and just be depressed in the meantime.

doing nothing has worked well enough so far, i fail to see why that could possibly change.

hold on my foot is literally frozen haha how'd that happen

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Serf posted:

it wouldn't just be Trump's people who would lose faith in the government

you're right, a ton of people would regain faith in the democratic system

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

pathetic little tramp posted:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/801110690387857408

who has that screenshot of ben carson saying "im fuckin retard pls dont give me jorb"

...HUD? what the gently caress? lol

Louisgod
Sep 25, 2003

Always Watching
Bread Liar

Vertical Lime posted:

https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/268116267473444866

and they're gonna let mccrory steal an election

hope they enjoy the coming eternal darkness

jesus christ they learned nothing. What a bunch of idiots.

WarMECH
Dec 23, 2004
I'm not a fan of picking on the children of the President, either. The attacks on Barron are starting to look like the Chelsea Clinton poo poo from the GOP in the 90s. It's gross.

Pick on the man, pick on his wife, pick on his adult children, but leave the little guy alone. He's going to grow up all hosed up anyway purely on his wealth and the fact that his dad is mentally ill. We don't need to throw more wood on that bonfire.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Serf posted:

the repercussions would be incredible. If we somehow didn't undergo a schism that would make the Civil War look like a sandbox hissy fit, no one would have any faith in the government. Clinton would have no mandate to rule, and her administration would not be taken seriously. And more insidiously, we would lose our chance to kill neoliberalism.
There will never be a civil war again. People on both the left and right who insinuate that are living in a reality where things matter and people care. Literally anything can occur now and people won't give a gently caress. Even Trump's worst ideas, such as the Muslim camps, provoke little to no reaction from the public at large. Do not underestimate American tolerance to the outright shameful and awful. I made that same mistake for the last two years and look where we are now.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Serf posted:

the repercussions would be incredible. If we somehow didn't undergo a schism that would make the Civil War look like a sandbox hissy fit, no one would have any faith in the government. Clinton would have no mandate to rule, and her administration would not be taken seriously. And more insidiously, we would lose our chance to kill neoliberalism.

what about the mandate of having more votes

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

WarMECH posted:

I'm not a fan of picking on the children of the President, either. The attacks on Barron are starting to look like the Chelsea Clinton poo poo from the GOP in the 90s. It's gross.

Pick on the man, pick on his wife, pick on his adult children, but leave the little guy alone. He's going to grow up all hosed up anyway purely on his wealth and the fact that his dad is mentally ill. We don't need to throw more wood on that bonfire.

i don't think she's picking on him? she talked about how great NY services are for autistic people, that they're very inclusive so

Karl Sharks
Feb 20, 2008

The Immortal Science of Sharksism-Fininism

Yinlock posted:

what about the mandate of having more votes

"i don't like the result depending on my vote, but instead on the vote of the establishment" - a real dumb dumb

WarMECH
Dec 23, 2004

Karl Sharks posted:

i don't think she's picking on him? she talked about how great NY services are for autistic people, that they're very inclusive so

No Rosie's quote isn't picking on him, it's the reaction from others (jokes about Autism) is what I'm talking about. Not necessarily from this forum, mind you.

Serf
May 5, 2011


Yinlock posted:

you're right, a ton of people would regain faith in the democratic system

disagree. the electoral college got us into this mess, and it will not be able to save us either


Nichael posted:

There will never be a civil war again. People on both the left and right who insinuate that are living in a reality where things matter and people care. Literally anything can occur now and people won't give a gently caress. Even Trump's worst ideas, such as the Muslim camps, provoke little to no reaction from the public at large. Do not underestimate American tolerance to the outright shameful and awful. I made that same mistake for the last two years and look where we are now.

so it'll be less of a war and more of a slaughter, doesn't change the fact that it will cause millions of people to think of the government as a sham


Yinlock posted:

what about the mandate of having more votes

the EC is what counts. I don't agree with that, but here we are

100 degrees Calcium
Jan 23, 2011



Yinlock posted:

doing nothing has worked well enough so far, i fail to see why that could possibly change.

hold on my foot is literally frozen haha how'd that happen

hey man can you help me move some of these deck chairs? my hands are full alternating between claiming nothing matters and claiming that every move to oppose trump will end in disaster.

Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


WarMECH posted:

I'm not a fan of picking on the children of the President, either. The attacks on Barron are starting to look like the Chelsea Clinton poo poo from the GOP in the 90s. It's gross.

Pick on the man, pick on his wife, pick on his adult children, but leave the little guy alone. He's going to grow up all hosed up anyway purely on his wealth and the fact that his dad is mentally ill. We don't need to throw more wood on that bonfire.
I'm not above saying anything about the Trump family as eight years of despicable tactics from the Republicans against Obama apparently worked swimmingly.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Serf posted:

the repercussions would be incredible. If we somehow didn't undergo a schism that would make the Civil War look like a sandbox hissy fit, no one would have any faith in the government. Clinton would have no mandate to rule, and her administration would not be taken seriously. And more insidiously, we would lose our chance to kill neoliberalism.

I don't know that we need to the EC to vote for Clinton. No one would trust her. Election is done and done. Rather, if this crazy idea gets done, the EC should just not vote Trump. Push it to the House and Senate to deal with over Christmas. We'll still probably end up with Trump/Pence, but it'd get people pissed enough to end the EC just in time for the next spirited charlatan to take us for a ride.

Turdfuzz
Jul 23, 2008

im not depressed

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

It's true, all of it.

Serf
May 5, 2011


"the whole system looks absurd... Which it may well be, but it built these roads."

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Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Serf posted:

so it'll be less of a war and more of a slaughter, doesn't change the fact that it will cause millions of people to think of the government as a sham
In a hypothetical scenario wherein faithless electors decide this election, there will be no slaughter, war, or bloodshed. There will be a few protests from deplorable Nazi collaborators. They will parade around frog memes for about three days and then immediately get back to jerking it to pedo anime porn.

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