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I would probably still be playing Witcher 3 if it weren't for the crafting and combat.
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DAI is the first bioware game I've tried that I couldn't finish, due to the sheer weight of boring. Terrible interfaces, lifeless quests everywhere, giant spaces content-less spaces filled with random encounters that don't warrant the time they take. At least with DA2 I could just turn the gameplay to easy mode and finish the game in like 16 hours. DAI is basically the reason why I'm super wary about Andromeda. Also, Sera is figurative cancer.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:08
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I recognize that Witcher 3 is objectively a good game, but I've never been able to get more than a few hours into it because of how little I like being Geralt.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:09
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I really liked the open world stuff. Some of it is throwaway (get bent, Hidden Oasis), but other stuff like the Hissing Wastes is downright triumphant. Like, I would have bought an (appropriately priced!) game by itself that was just the Hissing Wastes stuff. And even the areas that aren't all that interesting quest-wise are still usually extremely immersive just to wander around in. Hidden Oasis' central quest sucks, but it still feels captivating to move around this multi-level desert grotto and explore the ruins past the bridge. Also that game was mad pretty, like ridiculously pretty, at launch. Other stuff has come out since that looks better, but just taking in these huge gorgeous environments felt great. For me, it was the perfect balance between your standard Bioware RPG and something like Skyrim, where you have a lot of freedom approach-wise but nothing has any texture or narrative weight.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:10
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COOKIEMONSTER posted:DAI is the first bioware game I've tried that I couldn't finish, due to the sheer weight of boring. Terrible interfaces, lifeless quests everywhere, giant spaces content-less spaces filled with random encounters that don't warrant the time they take. At least with DA2 I could just turn the gameplay to easy mode and finish the game in like 16 hours. DAI is basically the reason why I'm super wary about Andromeda. I think Bioware just needs to get it through their skulls that they are flat out no good with open world games. ME 2 is their high point, and it's entirely about being a tight, guided experience.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:10
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Android Blues posted:I really liked the open world stuff. Some of it is throwaway (get bent, Hidden Oasis), but other stuff like the Hissing Wastes is downright triumphant. Like, I would have bought an (appropriately priced!) game by itself that was just the Hissing Wastes stuff. And even the areas that aren't all that interesting quest-wise are still usually extremely immersive just to wander around in. Hidden Oasis' central quest sucks, but it still feels captivating to move around this multi-level desert grotto and explore the ruins past the bridge. Agree to disagree. The Hissing Wastes is a slog that I've dreaded every time I played the game. Have you played Witcher 3? It sounds like it'd be right up your ally. Like, I enjoy DA:I, but the stuff like this that you're talking about is stuff that Witch did way, way better.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:12
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Skippy McPants posted:Agree to disagree. The Hissing Wastes is a slog that I've dreaded every time I played the game. I can't get into the Witcher series for exactly the same reason you can't. I'm just not a big fan of Geralt as a character and spending 40+ hours roleplaying him fills me with dread.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:14
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Isn't there a dig on Dragon Age in Blood and Wine?
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Nov 22, 2016 19:16
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Why exactly do you dislike about geralt if I may ask?
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Nov 22, 2016 19:22
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SgtSteel91 posted:Isn't there a dig on Dragon Age in Blood and Wine? I believe it's a reference to a dev who used to work for Bioware but now works for CD Projekt Red. 
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Nov 22, 2016 19:23
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Arcsquad12 posted:Why exactly do you dislike about geralt if I may ask? It's nothing super egregious. I've just had my fill of taciturn übermenschen, so playing one in a 80+ hour RPG isnot my bag. Skippy McPants fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Nov 22, 2016 19:28
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Android Blues posted:I can't get into the Witcher series for exactly the same reason you can't. I'm just not a big fan of Geralt as a character and spending 40+ hours roleplaying him fills me with dread. I felt this way when I saw him as Generic European Tough Guy, who stabs all the bad guys and gets all the ladies. I didn't get far enough in Witcher 2 to see anything different. So while I can't speak to earlier Geralts, the Witcher 3 Geralt is definitely funnier and more caring than ME Shepard. To me, Witcher 3 is a game about how much he cares, or rather, how much you decide he cares, I guess.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:28
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Pattonesque posted:I believe it's a reference to a dev who used to work for Bioware but now works for CD Projekt Red. Now I wonder if Those Across the Sea/The Executors are a reference to the Witcher...
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Nov 22, 2016 19:33
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Nov 22, 2016 19:37
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I felt that geralt's friendships were more genuine than anything in mass effect. He would never sell is friends out, unless he was offered a load of rare gwent cards.
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Nov 22, 2016 19:55
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SgtSteel91 posted:Now I wonder if Those Across the Sea/The Executors are a reference to the Witcher... My money's on foreshadowing future games, but it could just as easily amount to absolutely nothing knowing Bioware writers.
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Nov 22, 2016 20:03
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Witcher 3 is a bad game because open world games are always and forever bad.
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Nov 22, 2016 20:05
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9-Volt Assault posted:Witcher 3 is a bad game because open world games are always and forever bad. I hate open world games more than most but I liked Witcher 3. It helped that almost none of the side-quests were throwaways (which is always one of the biggest problems with open-world games).
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Nov 22, 2016 20:13
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Never could really get into the Witcher, always found Geralt to be a really boring protagonist. Maybe if he was a hot babe with a bow then we'd be in business.
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Nov 22, 2016 20:23
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Alain Post posted:I hate open world games more than most but I liked Witcher 3. It helped that almost none of the side-quests were throwaways (which is always one of the biggest problems with open-world games). Yeah exactly this, I forgot I was playing an Open World game while playing Witcher 3.
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Nov 22, 2016 20:25
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Skippy McPants posted:I recognize that Witcher 3 is objectively a good game, but I've never been able to get more than a few hours into it because of how little I like being Geralt. Haha, but seriously, Geralt is actually pretty humorous in this one, deffo kinda sarcastic at times, and pretty caring at others, or you can make him a complete rear end in a top hat. It's too bad. It's a great game with great writing. Android Blues posted:It came out really well, though. I think it's a fantastic game no matter how you slice it, and even if the gameplay's not to your taste, it's hard to deny the amount of effort involved. Like, the world is stunningly huge for a Bioware RPG. AMount of effort doesn't equate to good. It's a pretty large looking game, but is basically devoid of anything interesting. It's filled with lovely, non-story fetch quests and a shitton of walled off areas that only exist to pad your gametime by making you do ten 15+ fetch these plants fetch-quests. It's HIGHLY polished, absolutely, but don't sit there and call it fantastic when you have other games similar to it that are leaps and bounds better. I liked some of the characters, though. I romanced Cassandra.  Cole was uninspired dumbness and Iron Bull felt kinda laidback tryhard, but Blackwall and Solas, and to a lesser extent Dorian, were all pretty cool. And Cassandra and Varrick were fuckin' dope. I'm mixed on Sera, oddly enough.
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Nov 22, 2016 21:03
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Drifter posted:It's HIGHLY polished, absolutely, but don't sit there and call it fantastic when you have other games similar to it that are leaps and bounds better. I liked some of the characters, though. I romanced Cassandra. Sera's a good idea (a random nobody caught up in the Most Important Thing, surrounded by the Most Important People, feeling useless and trying desperately not to and to keep the Inquisitor grounded and from becoming one of the kinds of people who have poo poo on her and people like her forever) executed shockingly poorly. She's almost endearing if you're playing a friendly elf mage, she looks up to you as kind of a younger sibling vibe, but is terrified of what you can do, and doesn't want to be. The keyword there is almost though, because she's also incredibly unfunny and somehow the greasiest looking thing in a game I've ever seen, which is pretty impressive actually.
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Nov 22, 2016 21:07
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Iron Bull was shockingly boring.
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Nov 22, 2016 21:09
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He was their big flagship gay character, too. It was sad. He had a super small head, like, wtf?RBA Starblade posted:Sera's a good idea (a random nobody caught up in the Most Important Thing, surrounded by the Most Important People, feeling useless and trying desperately not to and to keep the Inquisitor grounded and from becoming one of the kinds of people who have poo poo on her and people like her forever) executed shockingly poorly. She's almost endearing if you're playing a friendly elf mage, she looks up to you as kind of a younger sibling vibe, but is terrified of what you can do, and doesn't want to be. The keyword there is almost though, because she's also incredibly unfunny and somehow the greasiest looking thing in a game I've ever seen, which is pretty impressive actually. She DID look really greasy, though, didn't she? I will say that DAInq's styalized art on their cards or whatever was shockingly cool. Drifter fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Nov 22, 2016 21:08
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Random off topic question: I'm looking to put in an SSD after Christmas, is it worth going for an M2 (apparently my motherboard has an M2 slot, didn't even know they were a thing when I brought it) over a regular SSD?
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Nov 22, 2016 21:11
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Drifter posted:He was their big flagship gay character, too. It was sad. He had a super small head, like, wtf? Counterpoint: ME1's Crisco Kaiden And yes, the tarot cards were really cool, they made an entire deck but it costs an obscene amount of money since they were super-ultra collectible.
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Veotax posted:Random off topic question: I'm looking to put in an SSD after Christmas, is it worth going for an M2 (apparently my motherboard has an M2 slot, didn't even know they were a thing when I brought it) over a regular SSD? M2s are significantly faster. I think their bus is something like 30GB/s while the SATA3 is 6GB/s. From the aspect of a user, you'r eonly going to see a difference if you're swapping around loving huge files. If they're a similar price, get the pci-e m2. I wouldn't pay more, however. edit: I also think there MAY be improvement if the drive is more than 50% filled up, but ultimately the only difference for most people is how it fits in your box. :ironbull: Drifter fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Nov 22, 2016 21:16
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Drifter posted:He was their big flagship gay character, too. Pretty sure the Tevinter guy was, since he was specifically mentioned as being gay in the marketing. Bull is open to all comers.
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Schubalts posted:Pretty sure the Tevinter guy was, since he was specifically mentioned as being gay in the marketing. Bull is open to all comers. Oh, Iron Bull was a romance for any character? That's cool. Either way, he was boring.
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Yeah I was kind of hoping a Qunari teammember with the name "iron bull" would be cooler, perhaps something like Wrex in Mass Effect. But I can't even remember anything about him, he was so generic and dull I liked the mute qunari mage you get to escort in DA2 better  
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Nov 22, 2016 21:27
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Veotax posted:Random off topic question: I'm looking to put in an SSD after Christmas, is it worth going for an M2 (apparently my motherboard has an M2 slot, didn't even know they were a thing when I brought it) over a regular SSD? M2s are effing amazing if you have the cash. Just be sure to do your research. I had to blind install windows onto mine because my Mobo didn't recognize an OEM M2.
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Nov 22, 2016 21:37
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Hot Take: DA2 is way better than you guys remember, and all of the Dragon Age games are way worse than everyone thinks they are. Also yeah, I can't muster the will to even pirate witcher 3 because nothing about geralt is interesting at all. At least Shepard was just a particularly good soldier, they weren't an ubermensch author insert as well (at least not until much later). If you don't understand what that means, just start listing off the titles Geralt has and his abilities and then compare them to Rand Al'thor from wheel of time.
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Nov 22, 2016 21:37
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Witcher is good but i prefer high fantasy stuff in my rpgs to whatever the stuff in witcher is called
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Nov 22, 2016 21:38
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Zzulu posted:Witcher is good but i prefer high fantasy stuff in my rpgs to whatever the stuff in witcher is called "ERP"
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Nov 22, 2016 21:41
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The big takeaway from Witcher3 was how Geralt as a character was much, much better than the sum of his parts.
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Nov 22, 2016 21:43
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Zzulu posted:Witcher is good but i prefer high fantasy stuff in my rpgs to whatever the stuff in witcher is called Dark Fantasy?
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Nov 22, 2016 21:44
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Zzulu posted:Witcher is good but i prefer high fantasy stuff in my rpgs to whatever the stuff in witcher is called Good writing?
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Nov 22, 2016 21:59
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Why is ME the only AAA sci-fi rpg? I like rpgs but I don't like fantasy settings.
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Nov 22, 2016 22:05
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CDPR's next big project is Cyberpunk 2077, probably to be released sometime in 2077.
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Yes im very much excited for that when and if it comes out.
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