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blizzardvizard
Sep 12, 2012

Shhh... don't wake up the sleeping lion :3:

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Can anyone who's using wrestle cat and robin hoot confirm this as true? Are they murder machines like mermaid seal?

Wrasslecat is bulky af, hits really hard and also learns Leech Life.

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Avalerion
Oct 19, 2012

Really a missed opportunity to give Decidueye sniper.

Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe
My current party is Dartrix, Persian, Crabrawler, Ribombee, Salandit, and Wishiwashi

I can attest that Wishiwashi is the team powerhouse.

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Can anyone who's using wrestle cat and robin hoot confirm this as true? Are they murder machines like mermaid seal?

When he was just regular cat, he was a very solid member of my team

now that he has achieved full wrestle cat status, he is an unstoppable lariat machine

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
If only starters' non-hidden abilities weren't such crap.

Classtoise
Feb 11, 2008

THINKS CON-AIR WAS A GOOD MOVIE

Hammerite posted:

I like Drasna because she busts out a load of dragons like a tryhard but then when you beat her she's all "haha oh you beat me! Well done, isn't this so much fun"

Unova Elite 4 are really forgettable as trainers because it feels like their types are too close together.

Unova Elite 4 feels like the Also Ran of Elite 4s.

Gen 5 in general was super unmemorable after the gyms. Like Elesa and Lenora were great and had personality and helped the plot along and then you get to Marshall who is basically Fighting Trainer +1 and just eh.

Even the writers forgot him because he was apparently Alder's protege and yet in B2W2 Iris is the new Champion because gently caress Marshall.

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?
Has anybody figured out where the other nectars are for Oricorio? I found the pink nectar in front of the Royal Dome, and I'm assuming the yellow nectar is in the big dumb yellow field, but I haven't seen any others yet.

edit: posted mere minutes before finding the red nectar in Ula'ula Meadow.

Lunatic Sledge fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Nov 22, 2016

Carlosologist
Oct 13, 2013

Revelry in the Dark

Decidueye is pretty good, big attack stat and decent defense makes up for the low speed. Spirit Shackle is a great move just for the animation

guts and bolts
May 16, 2015

Have you heard the Good News?

Lunatic Sledge posted:

Has anybody figured out where the other nectars are for Oricorio? I found the pink nectar in front of the Royal Dome, and I'm assuming the yellow nectar is in the big dumb yellow field, but I haven't seen any others yet.

I found the yellow nectar in the Melemele Meadow if that helps

Also is there a way or a place for me to ask for an Adamant/Synchronize combo Pokémon without spamming or begging or whatever - like can I narrow my trade field somehow to look for that combination of stuff? Instead of just like gender and species or whatever

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises

Lunatic Sledge posted:

Has anybody figured out where the other nectars are for Oricorio? I found the pink nectar in front of the Royal Dome, and I'm assuming the yellow nectar is in the big dumb yellow field, but I haven't seen any others yet.

Red Nectar is next to the Lake of the Sunne/Moone, depending on which game you're playing, and Purple is postgame on Poni Island.

Classtoise
Feb 11, 2008

THINKS CON-AIR WAS A GOOD MOVIE

Carlosologist posted:

Decidueye is pretty good, big attack stat and decent defense makes up for the low speed. Spirit Shackle is a great move just for the animation

Mine has Nature Power and his attack and special attack are nearly identical, which is amazing. So it doesn't matter if I get Earth Power or Needle Arm, it's gonna hit hard either way.

Also, my Alolan Grimer finally evolved. My big buddy Muk has been with me since the beginning and I am so glad I brought him along :3:

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

DACK FAYDEN posted:

This is the first generation where I have ever caught a mon beyond my active team of six and actively wanted all seven. New mons are good, Alolan forms are good, and I guess if you held a gun to my head I'd keep some of the old ones too. Wish I could evolve a Kadabra without doing any work at all.

I wonder traded a Kadabra today... holding an Everstone :twisted:

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




I beat the water trial because my cool and good friend, Green Arrowl, is cool and good

Soul Glo
Aug 27, 2003

Just let it shine through

Countblanc posted:

I wonder traded a Kadabra today... holding an Everstone :twisted:

This is bad and you should feel bad

Cough Drop The Beat
Jan 22, 2012

by Lowtax
It's cool when my 3DS decided to randomly set itself to January 1st, 2011 at midnight and completely hose the game's time sensitive features. :argh:

SuMo owns though. I'm loving the trials. The new Pokemon are sweet. The story is pretty interesting and I'm loving the characters. Even Hau isn't that annoying! Alola is great as a setting and it feels so alive. I hope the next game is along the lines of SuMo and not back to previous games with a more linear world and gyms.

I wish that Oricorio didn't have a nigh unusable movepool because I like its design and concept. Why does it learn almost nothing until level 40??? Some of the new monsters have some very weird bad movesets and stats, but it's okay.

eonwe
Aug 11, 2008



Lipstick Apathy
how is wishiwashi, I've had one sitting for a while and I don't particularly have a great water mon (poliwrath)

EclecticTastes
Sep 17, 2012

"Most plans are critically flawed by their own logic. A failure at any step will ruin everything after it. That's just basic cause and effect. It's easy for a good plan to fall apart. Therefore, a plan that has no attachment to logic cannot be stopped."

Space Cadet Omoly posted:

Can anyone who's using wrestle cat and robin hoot confirm this as true? Are they murder machines like mermaid seal?

I can personally confirm that Decidueye murders the ever-loving piss out of stuff, particularly because, as I mentioned earlier in the thread, weaknesses to Grass, Ghost, and/or Flying make up a plurality of the scripted content, and of the remainder, many have low enough defenses that they can be one-shot by a normal hit of Spirit Shackle or (late in the game) Leaf Blade. Of the single-type* bosses/trials found in the main game (sixteen if you count trials and their captains as one thing, though for some of the trainers, you need to see the teams they use in the post-game to even know they're specialists since they only have one or two the first time you fight them), only three, maybe four of them pose any real threat, Decidueye could realistically solo the rest of them.

By the way, does anyone know if there's an Ice-type trainer, well anywhere in the cast? Just feels weird that the other seventeen types have cool, fresh NPCs representing them (even if a couple only appear/get battled in the post-game), but Ice is left in the cold.

*They still have subtypes, naturally, which is how I Plucked Totem Kommo-o to death.

eonwe posted:

how is wishiwashi, I've had one sitting for a while and I don't particularly have a great water mon (poliwrath)

Wishiwashi is very good, especially since you get Scald in the same area you can first get them, so there's no worries about an iffy early movepool (though Wishi learns some great stuff as it levels).

Pyroi
Aug 17, 2013

gay elf noises

EclecticTastes posted:

By the way, does anyone know if there's an Ice-type trainer, well anywhere in the cast? Just feels weird that the other seventeen types have cool, fresh NPCs representing them (even if a couple only appear/get battled in the post-game), but Ice is left in the cold.

Game Freak hates Ice-types.

less laughter
May 7, 2012

Accelerock & Roll

EclecticTastes posted:

By the way, does anyone know if there's an Ice-type trainer, well anywhere in the cast? Just feels weird that the other seventeen types have cool, fresh NPCs representing them (even if a couple only appear/get battled in the post-game), but Ice is left in the cold.

Game Freak passionately hates the Ice type, it's the most screwed over type in the game

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

ah yes the 'gamefreak hates one of the best attacking types' meme

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
Bug, Ice, Psychic and another one just have the pedestal just sitting out, though Guzma could sort of be the bug trainer

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

eonwe posted:

how is wishiwashi, I've had one sitting for a while and I don't particularly have a great water mon (poliwrath)
Super slow and super low HP, but hits like a goddamn truck in Schooling form and has really good defense of both types. Would probably swap it in, teach it Scald, and call it a day.

Blaziken386
Jun 27, 2013

I'm what the kids call: a big nerd
My araquanid has a -sp.att nature.
Well, good thing I just caught it, and haven't trained it up much. Because the only physical water moves it gets are waterfall and liquidation, and those aren't gonna be available for a while. Time to go get one with a non-crap nature.

e: found one with a neutral nature, that's good enough.

Blaziken386 fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Nov 22, 2016

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

Dehry posted:

Bug, Ice, Psychic and another one just have the pedestal just sitting out, though Guzma could sort of be the bug trainer

Flying is the fourth one, but there is a flying trainer in the Elite 4

Calaveron
Aug 7, 2006
:negative:
Whoa what's going on, these trainers are using TWO pokemon, I thought that was completely illegal

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Mizuti posted:

I'm surprised at how many people bang their heads against a wall trying to catch things like Sableye or Feebas.

The GTS bypasses all that nonsense. If you have a compatible internet connection there's no reason not to use it. Just deposit something remotely valuable (version exclusives, starters, late game exclusives, etc) and someone else will have caught that annoyingly rare Pokémon for you.

Yes, this. Even wonder trading can sometimes net you gems, I got Phermosa from one. I also got Buzzwole from trading a Rowlett! Between my Rowlett mob, my Mimikyu clones, and my armory of Honedge, I've been able to trade for pretty much anything I've wanted so far.

Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

notoriousman posted:

Do we know yet how to get more Apricorn balls? Is it going to be a Festival Plaza thing, I'd assume? So far I just have the single ones you get from A-Oak.

There is a store I saw on Serebii that sells "Johto set" which I assume is Apricorn balls. I haven't been able to get the shop to find out though.

How Ingratiating!
Sep 7, 2011

Infinite ammo vs. CYBER PUNCH!!

Mr. Funktastic posted:

Anyone had success with Minior? Just got to the third island and I'm thinking about adding one to my squad because on paper Shell Smash + Shields Down sounds like a good time outside of getting hit by literally any priority move.

I used one to Stealth Rock my way to many in-game victories. Shell Smash+Shields Down does sound good on paper but I found the Shields Down boost to be enough by itself.

Also, I did not know Shields Down would block status ailments while active. What a cool ability!

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
lillie is a huge dork and i love her

Krinkle
Feb 9, 2003

Ah do believe Ah've got the vapors...
Ah mean the farts


Hammerite posted:

germans don't have the game until tomorrow you dumb rear end!!!

The game won't let you play "find the foreigner" in your native tongue. It wouldn't be a language lesson if it did.

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

Brother Entropy posted:

ah yes the 'gamefreak hates one of the best attacking types' meme

The other best attacking types at least have some resistances. GameFreak could've been nice and let it resist fairy but nope. :(

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!
I just finished the game, and the story was… actually good??? And all the friends/rivals were cool characters???

The encounters were really well-designed throughout, and I had a blast with my team of Decidueye, Incineroar, Primarina, Kommo-o, Scizor, and Lycanroc-Moon. Playing without EXP share leaves you at a really good challenge level—I was mostly even with the regular trainers, a level or two behind many of the bosses, and then eventually ten levels behind the Elite Four.

Captain Muffin
Apr 25, 2007

Women like you are the reason this chickens late in the first place.
So, me and some coworkers recently decided to have a Pokemon tournament, we never properly sorted out the rules but the basic idea was:

No one allowed to progress past next Gym.
All meet up, round robin battle, update a scoreboard.

Rinse and repeat till everyone has all the badges.

We were going to use GBA's, I was sourcing batteries for ruby / sapphire cartridges etc.

Anyhow, since Sun and Moon are here (UK launch tomorrow), we thought we would do the same thing, but now the Gym mechanic is removed it kinda scuppers everything.

Q1) Is there something in Sun and Moon that prevents progression (i.e. training Pokemon above a certain level) that would be good "breaks" in the game for us to have round robins in? I know about the trials, but do they actually limit game progress? Can we use that in place of gyms? We need something that levels progression, suggestions?

Q2) I haven't played one since Ruby / Sapphire but was told today that if you battle each-other, all your Pokemon are set to the same level. I can't think why they would introduce that as a game mechanic, that seems mental. Please tell me I am smelling sweet bullshit.

Ah the joys of returning to something you have't touched for ten years and then finding it's all changed.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!
Holy poo poo, Hau has a father.

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Captain Muffin posted:

Q1) Is there something in Sun and Moon that prevents progression (i.e. training Pokemon above a certain level) that would be good "breaks" in the game for us to have round robins in? I know about the trials, but do they actually limit game progress? Can we use that in place of gyms? We need something that levels progression, suggestions?

The game has a few good benchmarks; Islands, Trials, and Totems.

Islands are just what they sound like. You visit 4 different islands over the course of the game, meaning you could just say "stop once the game takes you to [island #2, 3, 4]".

Trials are a combination of gyms and minigames. Some don't have any combat, some are only combat. "Stop once you beat the Fire trial".

Totems are special boss battle pokemon, most of which are attached to like-typed Trials. There's four of these. "Stop once you battle the second Totem pokemon".

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

Captain Muffin posted:

Q2) I haven't played one since Ruby / Sapphire but was told today that if you battle each-other, all your Pokemon are set to the same level. I can't think why they would introduce that as a game mechanic, that seems mental. Please tell me I am smelling sweet bullshit.


Battle spot caps all pokemon at level 50. This allows people to have fair fight without forcing everyone to grind to level 100 for extra stats. But if the pokemon are below level 50, they won't have their level changed.

MacheteZombie
Feb 4, 2007

mandatory lesbian posted:

lillie is a huge dork and i love her

same. her lack of everything is charming.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Countblanc posted:

Trials are a combination of gyms and minigames. Some don't have any combat, some are only combat. "Stop once you beat the Fire trial".

Totems are special boss battle pokemon, most of which are attached to like-typed Trials. There's four of these. "Stop once you battle the second Totem pokemon".

There are definitely seven totems, one for each trial.

Nessa
Dec 15, 2008

Captain Muffin posted:


Q1) Is there something in Sun and Moon that prevents progression (i.e. training Pokemon above a certain level) that would be good "breaks" in the game for us to have round robins in? I know about the trials, but do they actually limit game progress? Can we use that in place of gyms? We need something that levels progression, suggestions?

Certain areas needed for progression are literally gated off until the trial is complete.

quote:

Q2) I haven't played one since Ruby / Sapphire but was told today that if you battle each-other, all your Pokemon are set to the same level. I can't think why they would introduce that as a game mechanic, that seems mental. Please tell me I am smelling sweet bullshit.

Ah the joys of returning to something you have't touched for ten years and then finding it's all changed.

Why is that bad? Not needing to manually level your pokemon to the same level is great. It gives everyone an equal playing field.

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Khanstant
Apr 5, 2007

Captain Muffin posted:


Q2) I haven't played one since Ruby / Sapphire but was told today that if you battle each-other, all your Pokemon are set to the same level. I can't think why they would introduce that as a game mechanic, that seems mental. Please tell me I am smelling sweet bullshit.

What's really mental is that they don't level your pokemon if they're below the 50 or 100 marks. It's a really sensible feature to put all pokemon on the same level, otherwise, whoever spent more time grinding would win outright.

mandatory lesbian posted:

lillie is a huge dork and i love her

I love that they let me be mean to her once or twice. She's my least favourite pokemon character in recent memory. I only have 6 badges so far but I'm hoping there's a twist where either I get to beat her rear end in a pokemon battle or at least steal her adorable fart cloud. Either way, bitch is on my poo poo list permanently from the time she tried to get me killed while doing nothing of use herself. gently caress you forever Lillie

Khanstant fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Nov 22, 2016

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