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Gringostar posted:Fishmech gona fishmech. not really. "things don't matter" is what people trapped in their own bubble yell when things don't turn out like they expect. it's a pretty empty statement quote:They were already sunk, or did you miss the part where Walker campaigned on loving unions and won? again: quote:edit: gringostar, why have you been peddling bullshit? Condiv fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Farking Bastage posted:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...s-a7432421.html This is seriously lovely, but I don't expect a lot of backlash. I think most people affected by this just had their hours cut so that they wouldn't go into overtime. That's a perk, sure, but it's not the same as a tangible change in pay. Add to that the lovely implementation in a lot of places (university I work for got a lot of grief from employees who had to switch over to hourly pay and start clocking in) and I think plenty of people will be mostly fine with losing this.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:21 |
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Spoiler: What is going to happen is that wage theft will still occur because employers know it will be repealed. They are DOL regulations, so they can do it on day 1 and employees are not going to risk their jobs over an extra $150 when they will be losing it anyway. Absolutely, and it's not exactly easy to lawyer up against your boss when you're pulling down less than 40k. I just have to think that a reasonable portion of employers will follow the law and folks will notice their paychecks dropping in April or whenever they get around to revising the rules. Or, maybe this is like Obamacare and all repeals go into effect immediately after the next election.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:21 |
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Condiv posted:an outpouring of public support bolstered by the president may have forced his hand. why are you pretending obama was toxic and couldn't help? oh yeah, you're trying to make excuses for him And what happened, then? Well, in Wisconsonville they say - that Walkers small heart grew three sizes that day. Stop living in a fairy tail. There was zero chance of Walker not gutting unions short of him losing his election no matter how many times Obama marched. Gringostar fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Nov 22, 2016 |
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Business Gorillas posted:i can still think the boomers are bad people but want to work with them for pursuing a common goal (better paying jobs and a more secure economic future) Isn't this exactly what you are railing against? The Democrats not being sincere in wanting to work with working class people? Hint: People can tell when you are holding your nose to talk to them.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:32 |
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Seeing /pol/ on fire after Donald's refusal to prosecute Hillary and his interview with the New York Times where he disavowed much of the alt-right is amazing.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:34 |
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MountGeek posted:Seeing /pol/ on fire after Donald's refusal to prosecute Hillary and his interview with the New York Times where he disavowed much of the alt-right is amazing. https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/801155531138166784 you are late to the party. the witch trials are back on.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:35 |
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MountGeek posted:Seeing /pol/ on fire after Donald's refusal to prosecute Hillary and his interview with the New York Times where he disavowed much of the alt-right is amazing. No one should assume they are Trump's friend. Anyone who isn't related to him by blood should expect a stab in the back whenever it is convenient.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:34 |
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/801155531138166784 Read the actual title of the article: Conway says Trump won't pursue Clinton charges. Trump said he wouldn't take it off the table, but then said "yeah, I don't want to do it. She suffered enough. She's a good person. Let it all go, people: this is so tiring."
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:36 |
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Covok posted:Read the actual title of the article: Conway says Trump won't pursue Clinton charges. Click that link and check the current title of the article and get back to me.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:38 |
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/801155531138166784 I hope they do press charges. She deserves to be exonerated in court.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:39 |
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Gringostar posted:And what happened, then? Well, in Wisconsonville they say - that Walkers small heart grew three sizes that day. you've literally been writing alt-history fanfiction where obama was toxic the last couple of pages to make excuses for him
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:40 |
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its disturbing that trump doesn't know/care the potus does not press charges, the AG does
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:40 |
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Covok posted:Read the actual title of the article: Conway says Trump won't pursue Clinton charges. See this is our new communications landscape. Trump who once said he was and once said he wasn't sarcastic when he said she was a co-founder of ISIS is now able to call her a good person. This will "play" for his base because of the way they receive his communications in this world. Normal sloganieering and campaign narratives won't work anymore.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:40 |
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boner confessor posted:its disturbing that trump doesn't know/care the potus does not press charges, the AG does That's really far down the list of stuff it's disturbing that Trump doesn't know/care about the presidency.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:42 |
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Condiv posted:
no, i've been saying that him walking with protesters wouldn't have made a difference
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boner confessor posted:its disturbing that trump doesn't know/care the potus does not press charges, the AG does Honestly to me, the more disturbing part isn't his confusion there, but the fact he says the reason he doesn't want to prosecute her is because he doesn't feel like it. Not as much the rule of law as about his whims. That's scary.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:43 |
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Trabisnikof posted:See this is our new communications landscape. Trump who once said he was and once said he wasn't sarcastic when he said she was a co-founder of ISIS is now able to call her a good person. This will "play" for his base because of the way they receive his communications in this world. Looking at the twitter list, it looks like some are like "No this is all a trick" while others are like "no, is it? I want to support him, but it looks like he's going back on his promise" while others go "No, this is all a play for the MSM, right?" It might play to his base, but they are really backpeddling hard to not get mad.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:43 |
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Covok posted:Looking at the twitter list, it looks like some are like "No this is all a trick" while others are like "no, is it? I want to support him, but it looks like he's going back on his promise" while others go "No, this is all a play for the MSM, right?" But Twitter is only the first filter. You're watching them crowdsource the most effective spin. By the time it drifts to most Trump supporters as Facebook memes in a few days, the spin will be well tested and honed against attack.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:45 |
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Ready for 4 years of being led by a President with untreated ADHD who can't make a single loving decision and stick to it
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:45 |
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BarbarianElephant posted:No one should assume they are Trump's friend. Anyone who isn't related to him by blood should expect a stab in the back whenever it is convenient. Reminder (again): Trump literally closed his rallies by reciting the story of the Scorpion and the Frog
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:46 |
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boner confessor posted:its disturbing that trump doesn't know/care the potus does not press charges, the AG does I honestly don't think Trump knows what the president can and cannot do. Like he has no loving idea what powers he actually has and what powers he doesn't have.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:47 |
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I honestly have no idea what trump believes at this point, other than in himself. It's loving baffling.
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Gringostar posted:no, i've been saying that him walking with protesters wouldn't have made a difference Gringostar posted:Because he and democrats were toxic after republicans swept the 2010 election only a few months before hand. i guess you can't even read your own posts
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:48 |
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Dr. Angela Ziegler posted:Reminder (again): Trump literally closed his rallies by reciting the story of the Scorpion and the Frog His campaign theme was "You can't always get what you want." Someone else said it first, but Tump negged America hard and now he's going to gently caress us. Honestly be on the look out for Trump to use "the door technique" on us at some point.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:48 |
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Mr Hootington posted:https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/801155531138166784 I am late to the party. But may I ask... And if you haven't checked out /pol/ I would recommend. It is funny... while it lasts. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:48 |
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disjoe posted:Ready for 4 years of being led by a President with untreated ADHD who can't make a single loving decision and stick to it Unfortunately this won't mean he's right half the time.
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Trabisnikof posted:But Twitter is only the first filter. You're watching them crowdsource the most effective spin. By the time it drifts to most Trump supporters as Facebook memes in a few days, the spin will be well tested and honed against attack. I decided to get /r/HillaryForPrison and it is kind of a fight in the comments. Some go "no, he means the FBI and AG will do because he appoints them. See!? 53-D water polo!" and others go" omg, I got cucked! I got loving cucked!"
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Covok posted:I decided to get /r/HillaryForPrison and it is kind of a fight in the comments. Some go "no, he means the FBI and AG will do because he appoints them. See!? 53-D water polo!" and others go" omg, I got cucked! I got loving cucked!" I imagine any backlash will settle down to a helping of "oh no see he's just saying the FBI will do it, just wait" and "who cares she got owned and Trump is daddy"
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:59 |
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/11/21/pat_mccrory_is_trying_to_steal_the_north_carolina_governorship.html Have you guys talking about NC's governor trying to steal the election by yelling VOTER FRAUD as loud as he can until the state legislature declares him the new governor?
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 22:59 |
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Trabisnikof posted:I imagine any backlash will settle down to a helping of "oh no see he's just saying the FBI will do it, just wait" and "who cares she got owned and Trump is daddy" Former is already happening, but latter is already being tried and dying hard under the screams of "Emailghazi killed people! she deserves prisons! Trump wtf?!!"
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Pop-o-Matic Trouble posted:http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/11/21/pat_mccrory_is_trying_to_steal_the_north_carolina_governorship.html I'm not sure if we have yet, but it is a loving shame. And he might get away with it too. Undoing fifty years of civil development in the process.
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Trabisnikof posted:I'm not sure if we have yet, but it is a loving shame. And he might get away with it too. Undoing fifty years of civil development in the process. there was a dedicated thread to it either here or in c-spam, but i can't find it now. sucks too cause it was an interesting read
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 23:03 |
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:I think since you're the one making the claim you have to come up with evidence as to why you think these barbers trying to make a living are actually sexist bros. I liked my candidate. Less than I liked Obama, sure, but Somewhat Worse Obama is still just fine.
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Pop-o-Matic Trouble posted:http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/11/21/pat_mccrory_is_trying_to_steal_the_north_carolina_governorship.html it is a good idea to allow this to happen. no undesirable precedents would be set.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 23:05 |
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I liked my candidate. Yeah, I actually grudgingly liked Hillary by the end. Not perfect by any means, but I don't even think of it as a better of two evils. She was, if nothing else, probably the most prepared for the job of any candidate for president ever.
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Pop-o-Matic Trouble posted:http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016/11/21/pat_mccrory_is_trying_to_steal_the_north_carolina_governorship.html Here's the worst part of the article to me: quote:McCrory can, and probably will, still ask for a statewide recount. But he must know that a recount will not close such a sizable gap. His real goal appears to be to delegitimize the results to such an extent that the state legislature—which holds a Republican supermajority—can step in and select him as the winner. North Carolina state law states that when “a contest arises out of the general election,” and that contest pertains “to the conduct or results of the election,” the legislature “shall determine which candidate received the highest number of votes” and “declare that candidate to be elected.” By alleging fraud, mishandling of ballots, and irregular vote-counting, McCrory is laying the groundwork for the legislature to proclaim that a “contest” has arisen as to “the conduct or results of the election.” At that point, it can step in, assert that McCrory received “the highest number” of legitimate votes, and “declare [him] to be elected.” He's making baseless accusations, that Republicans themselves are rejecting, then will use those as an excuse to ignore the vote and crown him governor.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 23:05 |
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Monaghan posted:I honestly have no idea what trump believes at this point, other than in himself. It's loving baffling. That is the punchline. There is only two things he believes. 1. Donald Trump should have more money. 2. Donald Trump should have more attention. That's it. There are no deep desires, beliefs or convictions driving him. He is pure id. Think of him like a toddler and it all makes sense.
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# ? Nov 22, 2016 23:06 |
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boner confessor posted:also keep in mind the only reason the new deal got off the ground was because it was hilariously racist and a ton of modern institutional inequality such as redlining is the direct result of 1920's era progressive policy on the federal level. like, the federal government invented the long term amortized mortgage, bringing homeownership to the american middle class (good) and then said "hey black people, jews, etc - you do not get these mortgages" (bad) The argument of the neoliberal for why we cannot have what we want always boils down to. :We can't appeal to the white working class because they are all racist and want to burn the gays.
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Condiv posted:i guess you can't even read your own posts Nice selective quoting, especially when I said it only "had" the potential not that it "would" have happened when asking me about why he specifically didn't actually march oh, and read my other posts where I made the argument that him walking with protesters wouldn't have done poo poo before that selective quoting Gringostar posted:Yes, I'm sure Scott "Koch sucker" Walker would have totally reversed course on that one if Obama got more involved in early 2011 after the democrats got absolutely smashed that November as a rebuke of Obama being elected. Gringostar posted:(1) It would be received as a staged photo op So yes I do read my own posts, sorry you lack basic comprehension when it comes to reading them though.
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