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RVProfootballer posted:Yeah for sure, Jared Cook the complete shoo-in for 5-50 each week, just like he's managed to hit in 0 previous seasons or in his first three games this year when he went a combined 7-53-0. He averaged like 4/40 for three straight years with a QB carousel of Locker/Hasselbeck/Bradford/Clemens/Hill/Davis plus all the things I said so you all can keep being acrimonious or you can just accept that we know nothing and that fantasy football will always find new and exciting ways to piss you off
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Spoeank posted:A second TE to maybe start in week 13 (after seeing it two weeks in a row)? Okay yeah let's actually delve into these numbers then Houston had played against exactly two good TEs and they were against a notoriously fickle Kelce and Delaine Walker before Mularkey freed the Mariota The only good TEs Seattle has played were Bennett and a gimped Gronk and they combined for 10/158 Chicago shut down CJ Hatguy and Witten the first 3 weeks of the season but have since given up 8/60/1 to Allen/Doyle and gave up 5/30 to Kyle Rudolph who might as well loving be Jared Cook. In PPR that's 5.5-8 which has been Witten territory all year and he's a perfectly serviceable TE It's pretty easy to shut down the TE when you're playing against the Jets/Cards/Rams/Vikings/Giants come on try a little harder broseph e: specifically the bears, their best LB is Trevethan and he's very much a run stopper not a coverage guy. Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Kelce was targeted 7 times and got 5 catches for 34 yards. I'm not sure that's "fickle" for TE. Walker was targeted 8 times for 2 catches and 34 yards. Pretty good coverage on the TE I'd say.
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I don't know who the gently caress I'm starting this week. 6 PATD Standard: QB: Matt Ryan Kirk Cousins Leaning towards Kirk. RB: (Starting 3) Spencer Ware Thomas Rawls Theo Riddick Carlos Hyde James Starks Wendell Smallwood Leaning towards Ware, Rawls, and Hyde.
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RisqueBarber posted:I don't know who the gently caress I'm starting this week. 6 PATD Standard: The week 12 sit/start thread is up: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3799009 : D
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MacheteZombie posted:The week 12 sit/start thread is up: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3799009 my b, ill post there.
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MacheteZombie posted:Kelce was targeted 7 times and got 5 catches for 34 yards. I'm not sure that's "fickle" for TE. Walker was targeted 8 times for 2 catches and 34 yards. Take a look at that Tennessee game and see if any of their players did anything of note enough to determine that it was good TE coverage or a lovely game for their passing attack on the whole Kelce is actually averaging 5/57 on just about 7 targets so that's actuality kind of right in line with his per game average for the season
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Other than Cook I can pick from Ertz, Tye, Hooper (although ESPN is negging on him because of toilolo) or Vance McDonald. Is Ertz the pick out of those?
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I would rank them as Hooper McDonald/Cook depending on how desperate you are this week or if you're trying to play for the playoffs Ertz Tye This is where people are going to bag on me for playing devil's advocate for Cook while telling you to roster Zach loving Ertz e: eh, maybe McDonald is 1A over Hooper, he's been jiving with Kaep a bit. I think I'd take him Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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Teemu Pokemon posted:He averaged like 4/40 for three straight years with a QB carousel of Locker/Hasselbeck/Bradford/Clemens/Hill/Davis plus all the things I said so you all can keep being acrimonious or you can just accept that we know nothing and that fantasy football will always find new and exciting ways to piss you off I'm honestly a little shocked that one game from a garbage tight end has won you over so hard. For the record, he's never once averaged 4 catches a game, failed to hit 40 yards a game in half his seasons as a primary tight end, and is now competing with Jordy, Cobb, and Adams for looks instead of Kenny Britt, Tavon Austin, and co. Lance Kendricks is on pace for 60-550, or roughly Cook's career production (more catches, fewer yards). He's garbage. Rotoworld blurb, lol: "Cook had multiple drops and wasn't on the same page with Aaron Rodgers on a wide open end-zone target. He also killed Green Bay's comeback with a late fumble." Teemu Pokemon posted:This is where people are going to bag on me for playing devil's advocate for Cook while telling you to roster Zach loving Ertz Ertz is averaging 9 targets a game the last three. I haven't looked at opponents, but any tight end that involved is my pick over almost any generic wire TE. sourdough fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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RVProfootballer posted:I'm honestly a little shocked that one game from a garbage tight end has won you over so hard. For the record, he's never once averaged 4 catches a game, failed to hit 40 yards a game in half his seasons as a primary tight end, and is now competing with Jordy, Cobb, and Adams for looks instead of Kenny Britt, Tavon Austin, and co. Lance Kendricks is on pace for 60-550, or roughly Cook's career production (more catches, fewer yards). He's garbage. Yeah I'd need to see consistancy for two more games before I tried to fall on that grenade. He's still available in my league after dropped 14 and some change. And I know there are some guys who need a TE.
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I'm not won over I'm just saying stranger things have happened and considering the way the Packers are built right now the pieces are there for a miracle. Whether it happens or not remains to be seen but like I saidTeemu Pokemon posted:I'd easily rather have him on my bench than Bibbs or the Washingtons or LaFell or some poo poo. He's a late-season long shot flyer, just like 99% of the guys you're adding during week 12.
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Should I get Hunter Henry, Vernon Davis, or Charles Clay, to stream at TE instead of Cook?
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Edited it in above, but realized it might be too late:Teemu Pokemon posted:This is where people are going to bag on me for playing devil's advocate for Cook while telling you to roster Zach loving Ertz Ertz is averaging 9 targets a game the last three. I haven't looked at opponents, but any tight end that involved is my pick over almost any generic wire TE. I don't intend that as a ringing endorsement of him at all, but among all garbage tight ends, opportunity is all I'm looking for, ya know? sourdough fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Nov 23, 2016 |
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RVProfootballer posted:He's garbage.
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Zach Ertz is Kyle Rudolph in a green jersey
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Zach Ertz is Kyle Rudolph in a green jersey Wrong, Rudolph can at least run after the catch.
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Teemu Pokemon posted:Zach Ertz is Kyle Rudolph in a green jersey In a year when Kyle Rudolph is like TE#8 or 9, and we're talking about wire TEs to stream, this is the best argument for having Ertz above those other bums
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RVProfootballer posted:I don't intend that as a ringing endorsement of him at all, but among all garbage tight ends, opportunity is all I'm looking for, ya know? This is basically the same thing I'm saying about Cook though? Both he and Ertz are career underperformers with measurables and the Packers are basically running a hyper-WCO to compensate for their complete lack of a running game and desperately need someone who can split the seam at the second level. That's a perfect storm for any TE with the prototypical tools to thrive. I know it's Jared Cook, but look at fantasy football as an entire entity and tell me if any of it makes sense. I'm not saying Jared loving Cook will lead you to the promised land, just saying don't be so dismissive
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Leperflesh posted:Should I get Hunter Henry, Vernon Davis, or Charles Clay, to stream at TE instead of Cook? You know what, gently caress it, my team is 2-9 I'm rolling with Cook
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*jared cook gets more than 20% of his fantasy points over the last two seasons in one game* Guys I think Jared Cook might be good
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Spoeank posted:*jared cook gets more than 20% of his fantasy points over the last two seasons in one game* This.
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Spoeank posted:*jared cook gets more than 20% of his fantasy points over the last two seasons in one game* Admittedly I am not that familiar with Cook, but a lot of us looked at the fact that he came back from injury to two double digit games and that seemed positive.
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MacheteZombie posted:It's just odd to me to see Teemu saying something/anything positive about TEs The End Times are truly upon us.
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Teemu Pokemon posted:This is basically the same thing I'm saying about Cook though? Both he and Ertz are career underperformers with measurables and the Packers are basically running a hyper-WCO to compensate for their complete lack of a running game and desperately need someone who can split the seam at the second level. That's a perfect storm for any TE with the prototypical tools to thrive. Ertz has now had multiple games showing he's getting that opportunity, his competition for targets is Jordan Matthews, DGB, et al, and he's actually had a good fantasy year in his career. Meanwhile, Jordy and Cobb each had just 5 targets in the sole good game that Cook has had, while Adams had 6 (so 16 total between them). That trio averages 26 targets a game for the rest of the year, including a game Cobb missed. I am just really not seeing Cook having anywhere near the target share he had the last game, and he's bad at football so needs volume to do anything. Leperflesh posted:You know what, gently caress it, my team is 2-9 I'm rolling with Cook League of Posts? Do it  BonoMan posted:Admittedly I am not that familiar with Cook, but a lot of us looked at the fact that he came back from injury to two double digit games and that seemed positive. Well he's only played one game coming back from injury, so yeah 
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pubic works project posted:The End Times are truly upon us. EMBRACE THE CHAOS Spoeank posted:*jared cook gets more than 20% of his fantasy points over the last two seasons in one game* Things people said about Billy Volek and Drew Bennett
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Did Jared Cook get you with one or those Wrath of Khan worms? "Tight End, Green Bay?" "Tight End Green Bay!" "Oh no!"
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RVProfootballer posted:
Oh weird, for some reason I swear I kept checking and seeing two games. I think I was looking at Gates instead. My brain is mush. Anyway, looking at matchups I went with Ertz over everyone else.
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e: wrong thread I think my bad.
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Spoeank posted:Did Jared Cook get you with one or those Wrath of Khan worms? I've specifically railed against the GB TE narrative in this very thread, but this Packers offense is not the same Packers offense of the last X years and shouldn't be judged in the same vacuum. The way they're running it right now, it's just begging for a TE to become a between the 20s target hog. It's too bad that TE is Cook but can't keep from loving that measurables chicken.
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RIP Fat Karlos
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Remember Fat Karlos Williams? Still have him stashed on your dynasty team for some reason? Well ... https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/801531482879754240
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Spoeank posted:Did Jared Cook get you with one or those Wrath of Khan worms? Lmao Spoeank my brother I really needed the laugh that this provided after the last hour I experienced.
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This is a pretty hilarious Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/Michael_Fabiano/status/801514351463002112
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Cervixalot posted:This is a pretty hilarious Twitter thread: Pretty silly backpedal after he was called out. "I was saying it was fair as in not veto worthy, not that one side didn't win it!!"
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For people down on Sammy Watkins, Buffalo's offense was very different the two games he was healthy this season. His playoff schedule looks nice. Don't drop someone good, but he is absolutely worth taking a flyer on if you have a spot. So can someone tell me why we aren't giving Kaepernick more streaming love. He is putting up some nice numbers consistently.
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Sataere posted:
No idea. Kaep is the answer
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