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Gato The Elder
Apr 14, 2006

Pillbug
My prospero set arrived on Monday, and my 30k haul now consists of:

the prospero set
(to be upgraded with an assortment of FW shoulder pads and heads)

3x quad launcher look-a-likes from mantic
1x sicaran
1x deredeo
1x contemptor
5x FW MK 5 marines
5x FW MK 2 marines
5x FW MK 3 marines
1x Decimator
an assortment of 1k sons upgrade parts made by various 3rd parties (mostly the Egyptian stuff from Wargamer Exclusive)
2x rhinos

I dunno what I'm gonna field, but I'm probably going to trade away the Custodes for another 5x tartaros terminators.

Book 7 needs to hurry up and release >.<

Gato The Elder fucked around with this message at 01:57 on Nov 23, 2016

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GreenMarine
Apr 25, 2009

Switchblade Switcharoo
I don't really like the candy red style so I just followed Lord Duncan's recipe. Happy with the result, particularly the back side. Seems within my skill set to get table quality with plenty of things to improve on. Dotting the rivets well is hard. Anyone know a trick for that?



I might paint a few more. I've been frustrated with painting white World Eaters.

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.
Nice thousand son you got there. Would be a shame if something were to happen to him. :smugdog:

GreenMarine
Apr 25, 2009

Switchblade Switcharoo

DJ Dizzy posted:

Nice thousand son you got there. Would be a shame if something were to happen to him. :smugdog:

I think you gotta stand in line behind tallkid's Caestus.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

GreenMarine posted:

Dotting the rivets well is hard. Anyone know a trick for that?

Yes please, some must have a "You wouldn't believe their technique! 'Eavy Metal painters hate him!" cheat for those dumb things.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I use a wash to darken around the rivet, then just tap a highlight on with a very fine brush after it's dry.

Endman
May 18, 2010

That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die


Use the side of the brush

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

moths posted:

I use a wash to darken around the rivet, then just tap a highlight on with a very fine brush after it's dry.

Same.

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang

ijyt posted:

Yes please, some must have a "You wouldn't believe their technique! 'Eavy Metal painters hate him!" cheat for those dumb things.

Touch the end of a cocktail stick to paint, then to the rivet. After a while you'll have a build ot of dried paint on the cocktail stick that makes it less precise though.

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

Touch the end of a cocktail stick to paint, then to the rivet. After a while you'll have a build ot of dried paint on the cocktail stick that makes it less precise though.
You should have a brush with a point fine enough to do that anyway.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
If you folks haven't been paying attention to the 40k thread, the Age of Sigmar formula is in full effect. Big model releases, support for long forgotten armies, and an upswing of community activity. We know Age of Emperor 8e is coming down the road and it's a question of 'when' rather than 'if'. Nobody knows the changes, but we can expect a streamline of the core game and some shakeup to the fluff. Pucker your buttes all ye who enter here. On paper these are not bad things, but I wager most of us here have very low confidence GW is capable of executing this well.

I'm worried. The main issue is that our core rules are tied to 40k. 30k is largely an afterthought when it comes to rules support, you don't need to look past the FAQs which go directly against the design intent of our system. When 8e comes around the corner it's just going to be compounded. The bigger the changes, the bigger the clusterfuck.

I'd like to think they'll branch the two systems, but I doubt this will happen. So where does that leave us? I imagine we'll see what we get before making any decisions, but if the rules are hard to salvage we'll have to use the 7th edition rules which is going to fragment our small community.

BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Nov 23, 2016

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006
I would hope that in the event of Age of the Emperor FW just re-releases the 7E rulebook with a red cover and pictures of Heresy era marines at a 33% markup.

MasterSlowPoke
Oct 9, 2005

Our courage will pull us through
Yeah, I fully expect that Horus Heresy will be a third game system, with a further modified version of 7th ed. They wouldn't spend so much time getting the Thousand Sons just right to throw it away in 4 months.

TKIY
Nov 6, 2012
Grimey Drawer

MasterSlowPoke posted:

Yeah, I fully expect that Horus Heresy will be a third game system, with a further modified version of 7th ed. They wouldn't spend so much time getting the Thousand Sons just right to throw it away in 4 months.

Yeah never...

***COUGH***



(yes that's the joke)

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007
Officially splitting off from the 40k BRB would be the best thing ever for HH.

Can you imagine? All of FW's editing nonsense, magnified many times over... so many arguments :allears:

But seriously that would be so good.

GreenMarine
Apr 25, 2009

Switchblade Switcharoo

MasterSlowPoke posted:

Yeah, I fully expect that Horus Heresy will be a third game system, with a further modified version of 7th ed. They wouldn't spend so much time getting the Thousand Sons just right to throw it away in 4 months.

This is my desire, I don't know if it counts as a prediction, with AoS < 40k < 30k in terms of depth and complexity. 30k seems like evidence that you don't need to wildly change the base 40k game to get something good, but instead of adjusting 40k to bring it in line they will probably nuke substantial parts of it. The FW design team has to have a much greater degree of respect for how complicated the overall game balance is, whereas the 40k design team seems to just use "that feels about fluffy enough" as their decision making heuristic.

Mango Polo posted:

Officially splitting off from the 40k BRB would be the best thing ever for HH.

It would mean no more butt clenching over the FAQ rulings distorting 30k. I guarantee no one writing FAQ answers gave one thought to their effects on 30k.

GreenMarine fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Nov 23, 2016

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.

BULBASAUR posted:

support for long forgotten armies

Still waiting for model support for my dogs of war army! :argh:

Bear Enthusiast
Mar 20, 2010

Maybe
You'll think of me
When you are all alone
So I supposed at some point I'll need to buy some rules for this game if I ever end up modeling/painting enough marines on top of tricking enough of my friends into playing. What's the current situation with rulebooks? From the past I've seen the occasional "everyone is selling their books on eBay you moron" situation that I'd like to be on the right side of.

adamantium|wang
Sep 14, 2003

Missing you

Lord Twisted
Apr 3, 2010

In the Emperor's name, let none survive.
Yeah I can see FW releasing a tidied up 7th ed.

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.
Non-GW imperial bunkers. Where do I get them.

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~

DJ Dizzy posted:

Non-GW imperial bunkers. Where do I get them.

I like Quantum Gothic: http://quantumgothicwars.com

Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

GreenMarine posted:

Dotting the rivets well is hard. Anyone know a trick for that?

ijyt posted:

Yes please, some must have a "You wouldn't believe their technique! 'Eavy Metal painters hate him!" cheat for those dumb things.

Buy a really, really, really small super-fine detail brush. That's the secret. Don't do it with a normal detail brush.

Fashionable Jorts
Jan 18, 2010

Maybe if I'm busy it could keep me from you



If any of you nerds want to play warhammer videogames (or whatever) feel free to join the steam group I made

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/30kgoons

Have already smashed rats with a couple of you, and neither of them sent me viruses

GreenMarine
Apr 25, 2009

Switchblade Switcharoo

Bear Enthusiast posted:

So I supposed at some point I'll need to buy some rules for this game if I ever end up modeling/painting enough marines on top of tricking enough of my friends into playing. What's the current situation with rulebooks? From the past I've seen the occasional "everyone is selling their books on eBay you moron" situation that I'd like to be on the right side of.

Snag the enhanced editions on ibooks. They are $50 each, but they get updates and are great for play and study because all of the game rules are hotlinks.

If you're playing a legion you'll need the legion astartes book for legion specific rules and the age of darkness campaign book for the main army list. If you're playing mechanicus they have their own rule book and if you're playing cults, solar auxillia, etc, they have their own book. So 4 books in all, with 2 required to pull together a legion.

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.

GreenMarine posted:

So 4 books in all, with 2 required to pull together a legion.

Unless you play TS or SW

Also, this:

DJ Dizzy fucked around with this message at 07:59 on Nov 25, 2016

Lord Twisted
Apr 3, 2010

In the Emperor's name, let none survive.
Does that mean tyrants as troops again

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer

Fashionable Jorts posted:

If any of you nerds want to play warhammer videogames (or whatever) feel free to join the steam group I made

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/30kgoons

Have already smashed rats with a couple of you, and neither of them sent me viruses
Joined. Viruses sent.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat

DJ Dizzy posted:

Unless you play TS or SW

Also, this:

Praise our lord and savior Perturabo

Shazaminator
Oct 11, 2007
The power of Shazam compels you!
So the Custodes grav tank is up in Forgeworld now, and am I right in thinking the rules make no sense? It says:

quote:


A single Caladius Grav-tank may be taken as a Heavy Support choice for any Loyalist Faction army for each Legio Custodes squad also within the army, up to the usual limits for the Force Organisation chart you are using.
In the case of specialist Rites of War or Force Organisation charts where compulsory Heavy Support choices feature, Caladius Grav-tanks may not be used to ll those compulsory choices.

Which sounds like the intent is you take the tank as a HS option for your Legion force org alongside at least one Custodes squad for each, but the Custodes temporary rules say to use them as an allied mini-detachment on their own.

Unless the idea is for each squad in the allied detachment you can take one tank in the main force which is screwy even for forgeworld.

tallkidwithglasses
Feb 7, 2006

Shazaminator posted:

So the Custodes grav tank is up in Forgeworld now, and am I right in thinking the rules make no sense? It says:


Which sounds like the intent is you take the tank as a HS option for your Legion force org alongside at least one Custodes squad for each, but the Custodes temporary rules say to use them as an allied mini-detachment on their own.

Unless the idea is for each squad in the allied detachment you can take one tank in the main force which is screwy even for forgeworld.

Do we even have the 30k custodes rules yet?

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

tallkidwithglasses posted:

Do we even have the 30k custodes rules yet?

The October White Dwarf had a few unit entries/wargear/abilities.

Gato The Elder
Apr 14, 2006

Pillbug

tallkidwithglasses posted:

Do we even have the 30k custodes rules yet?

They're also listed on the FW pdf linked on the Custodes + Grav Tank bundle page

Bear Enthusiast
Mar 20, 2010

Maybe
You'll think of me
When you are all alone

GreenMarine posted:

Snag the enhanced editions on ibooks. They are $50 each, but they get updates and are great for play and study because all of the game rules are hotlinks.

If you're playing a legion you'll need the legion astartes book for legion specific rules and the age of darkness campaign book for the main army list. If you're playing mechanicus they have their own rule book and if you're playing cults, solar auxillia, etc, they have their own book. So 4 books in all, with 2 required to pull together a legion.

No Mac OS or iOS devices so no enhanced editions but I might get the tablet ones anyways, thanks for the info.

DJ Dizzy
Feb 11, 2009

Real men don't use bolters.


My Kyr Vhalen is taking shape. Just need to GS the inquisition symbol on the skulls, and build him a servoarm.

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat
That owns. The head in particular looks like a good match

The Sisko
Jan 9, 2009

"Whenever there's injustice, wrongs to be righted, innocents to be defended, The Sisko will be there, delivering ass-whooppings."
I'm only about halfway through Master of Mankind but it's honestly one of the best HH books and I feel comfortable saying that it's probably required reading for anyone into 30k.

OhDearGodNo
Jan 3, 2014

I gave up on black marble due to lack of shade options and just went for another go at jade. Used many layers of Kabalite green, coelia greenshade, waystorne green, and waywatcher green with veins in VMA white/ VMA blue grey. Underneath I mixed cadandora yellow with some spiritstone red, then 2 coats of 'ardcoat. I also tried to do what I could to keep it from looking Christmas-y.



e: ignore the power sword paint. It's not done.

Sulecrist
Apr 5, 2007

Better tear off this bar association logo.
I think that looks really good.

Edit: I do feel like the candy red, slick green jade, and power blue are too close to each other in tone. It's a compositional issue rather than anything to do with the individual colors, and you might be able to resolve it by making the blue significantly lighter and maybe highlighting the gold more starkly. Wait for someone else to weigh in, just in case I'm talking out of my rear end.

Sulecrist fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Nov 28, 2016

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Zaphod42
Sep 13, 2012

If there's anything more important than my ego around, I want it caught and shot now.

OhDearGodNo posted:

I gave up on black marble due to lack of shade options and just went for another go at jade. Used many layers of Kabalite green, coelia greenshade, waystorne green, and waywatcher green with veins in VMA white/ VMA blue grey. Underneath I mixed cadandora yellow with some spiritstone red, then 2 coats of 'ardcoat. I also tried to do what I could to keep it from looking Christmas-y.



e: ignore the power sword paint. It's not done.

:swoon:

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