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Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Fojar38 posted:

Come to think of it most of DS9's bad episodes are from early on where the writers didn't know what they wanted to do yet so every episode was "whoa a wacky mcguffin is coming through the wormhole!"

Babylon 5's first season has that problem too. The fifth one too, a bit, because they kept getting told there wouldn't be a fifth season so a lot of it is padding for time.

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Oh yeah it is pretty much the Bajorans are giant pieces of poo poo the episode.

Actually the Bajorans were entirely correct to not let the species that thinks that they can revitalize a continent contaminated with industrial space waste with hard work, a hoe, and a can-do attitude to gently caress off

Literally uglyface amishes only argument for why the Bajorans should settle them is "We're farmers, you don't KNOW we'll all die agonizing deaths and the blood will be on your hands. Maybe it'll all magically work out?"

FuturePastNow
May 19, 2014


Dicky mouse posted:

I wonder if nichelle did anal.

Gene doesn't seem like the sort who asked first.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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And I say this as someone who hates Bajorans and every aspect of their dumb generic spiritual alien culture

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.
Sanctuary is stupid and that dumb race is stupid and the Bajorans did nothing wrong (in this episode at least. Maybe only in this episode ever). Just like the Maquis, it could have made sense in a different setting, but in post scarcity star trek it's just absurd.

"We're farmers and all we want is a place to farm, please let millions of us come live on your planet"
"Uh, you know there are literally thousands of worlds right?"
"No! Your planet is extra special because superstition. Asking us to go to an equally good planet somewhere else is cruel!"
"Look, we're going to hook you up with another great planet. Enjoy your new life that will be identical to what you would have had here."
"Stop oppressing us!"

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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it wasn't even "an equally good planet." It was a planet that was better in every way shape or form but the interpretation of that religious text by that one lady meant that it HAD to be the planet still recovering from a brutal occupation with most of its arable land gone and in a state of constant humanitarian crisis

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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the prophecy was like "the holy planet will be one beyond the eye of the universe it will be a planet of sorrow where we'll plant seeds of joy"

like that is vague as gently caress. maybe the federation should have found a shittier planet for them so it would fit the prophecy better

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO


The problem is they were making GBS threads on the Skreaans whole "buh-buh buh but, our prophecy' thing. They had no scientific basis that one additional famine would destabilize a planet already in famine. They just didn't want a separate set of fables loving up their dalrock and pa filled land of starvation and nonsense.

Besides, they day after Bajor joined the federation you'd have wealthy Bolians and post-currency Vulcans moving into every single street and rocky outcrop claiming space for 4th and 5th vacation homes.

It was ignorant of them to try and keep a racially pure planet. Better to have the gangbang farmers who can do all the labor for you before the industrial replicators arrive.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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it's true that the bajorans don't really have room to talk wrt stupid space prophecies but iirc their concern was less about the integrity of bajor itself and more to do with the skreaans would fuckin die if the bajorans let them settle there and it would be the bajorans fault for letting them

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
can you believe the audacity of those young men to be running on the promenade I mean like seriously what heathens!

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



Fojar38 posted:

the prophecy was like "the holy planet will be one beyond the eye of the universe it will be a planet of sorrow where we'll plant seeds of joy"

like that is vague as gently caress. maybe the federation should have found a shittier planet for them so it would fit the prophecy better

i bet rape gang planet could use some farmers

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->
is there a reason the federation didn't go to planet rape and say "okay y'all hosed up real bad, we're taking over and have brought a bunch of galaxy classes with us in case you start poo poo"

Tears In A Vial
Jan 13, 2008

Fojar38 posted:

is there a reason the federation didn't go to planet rape and say "okay y'all hosed up real bad, we're taking over and have brought a bunch of galaxy classes with us in case you start poo poo"

They officially severed relations with the Federation so I guess it became a prime directive thing? I dunno.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Oh god how does Sanctuary not get brought up on terrible DS9 episodes?

Space gypsies travelers

Because it's actually a great episode showing how the Bajorans are loving terrible, and the Federation ain't the paradise they brag about it being. It's one of the first times in the franchise where a first contact goes extremely poorly and the incident isn't resolved peacefully in the end.

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Fojar38 posted:

is there a reason the federation didn't go to planet rape and say "okay y'all hosed up real bad, we're taking over and have brought a bunch of galaxy classes with us in case you start poo poo"

Gene was still alive

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Fojar38 posted:

is there a reason the federation didn't go to planet rape and say "okay y'all hosed up real bad, we're taking over and have brought a bunch of galaxy classes with us in case you start poo poo"

"And I warn you, those galaxy classes are all fully equipped with counselors, pastel-colored lounge areas, nursery schools and arboretums. Do not test our willingness to use them."

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



rape planet vs. jogging exhibitionist coed planet

go

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Nor The Battle To The Strong is a really loving good episode.

MrSlam
Apr 25, 2014

And there you sat, eating hamburgers while the world cried.
Follow up

Rape planet vs Risa

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

MrSlam posted:

Follow up

Rape planet vs Risa

Trick question: same planet.

naem
May 29, 2011

Powered Descent posted:

"And I warn you, those galaxy classes are all fully equipped with counselors, pastel-colored lounge areas, nursery schools and arboretums. Do not test our willingness to use them."

:stare:

Uncle Enzo
Apr 28, 2008

I always wanted to be a Wizard
You know, Luxwana did nothing wrong by trying to jump the occasional starfleet officer or two. Getting strange left and right is one of the guiding principles of star trek.

counterfeitsaint
Feb 26, 2010

I'm a girl, and you're
gnomes, and it's like
what? Yikes.

Arcsquad12 posted:

Because it's actually a great episode showing how the Bajorans are loving terrible, and the Federation ain't the paradise they brag about it being. It's one of the first times in the franchise where a first contact goes extremely poorly and the incident isn't resolved peacefully in the end.

Except that's exactly how it ended, and uppity farm aliens live in post scarcity bliss and want for nothing like the rest of the federation. Too bad about their religious nonsense I guess.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

counterfeitsaint posted:

Except that's exactly how it ended, and uppity farm aliens live in post scarcity bliss and want for nothing like the rest of the federation. Too bad about their religious nonsense I guess.

one of the lady's husbands got owned trying to force his way onto bajor so there's that but i couldn't bring myself to feel too bad for 'em

Dicky mouse
Apr 11, 2008

"No No Not like that....Thats just silly"
whats the rape planet?

remember in voyager when harry hooks up with the alien on the generational ship gets a case of the glowing space aids

and janeway chews him out for not follow the book about loving space women, and he tells maybe if she let him gently caress her now and then poo poo like this wouldn't happen

Lord of Pie
Mar 2, 2007


Dicky mouse posted:

whats the rape planet?

The planet Tasha came from, which is only mentioned in relation to rape gangs

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Planet of the Rapes

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Fojar38 posted:

Planet of the Rapes

The Rapes of Wrath.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

shadow puppet of a posted:

Because it is the best episode at making the entire Bajoran race look like terrible, stupid assholes.

And any race that procreates exclusively via gangbangs and train running cant be all bad.

Wait, what?

shadow puppet of a
Jan 10, 2007

NO TENGO SCORPIO





Her docking ring, upper pylon and turbolift are all serviced by those three with her that work the night shift.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

Bajoran Prophecy> Flake people Prophecy

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

quote:

Her docking ring, upper pylon and turbolift are all serviced by those three with her that work the night shift.

Roddenberry would approve.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Lord of Pie posted:

The planet Tasha came from, which is only mentioned in relation to rape gangs

Well, they did do an entire episode there later on, the one with Tasha's sister. There was a little more to the place than just rape gangs, but it was still a real crapsack.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Legacy_(episode)

Jenner
Jun 5, 2011
Lowtax banned me because he thought I was trolling by acting really stupid. I wasn't acting.
I have just been informed that the holographic doctor has a human wife and offspring. Can someone explain to me how this works? How does a being composed of hard light have the necessary biological functions to reproduce? Because AFAIK light doesn't have sperm (which is required to impregnate human women.) And no just saying "future tech" or "space magic" is not enough.

How was it explained in the show?

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

It wasn't.

slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.
Just rewatched best of both worlds and the follow up "Family". Seems kind of fitting with thanksgiving tomorrow.

VectorSigma
Jan 20, 2004

Transform
and
Freak Out



Nostalgia4Infinity
Feb 27, 2007

10,000 YEARS WASN'T ENOUGH LURKING

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
Solutions to the Doctor having kids: Adoption, Dr. Zimmerman having some frozen sperm left behind just for the Doctor to use, the Doctor is actually in a cloned, brainless body of Dr. Zimmerman and just lives as a holographic brain that connects to the nervous system and makes it move around when he wants to do real biological stuff.

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frogge
Apr 7, 2006


The doctor, using his 24th century biomedical knowledge, simply engineers and then brews his own sperm from a vat of vinegar and it successfully impregnates someone.

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