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I am Otis posted:I set mine to 90. I don't tab anymore :p
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 02:05 |
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# ? May 14, 2024 15:04 |
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How good are Mana Vipers in extended? I'm thinking of dropping PArrow now that it's outlived its usefulness.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 02:10 |
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Mana vipers are good for the entire game. Their raw attack power isn't great compared to other summons but their antimagic bites combined with fast speed makes them great support summons. Basically every dangerous enemy in extended counts as a spellcaster and all of them are vulnerable to antimagic. Using summon mana viper to support you means they can end up missing several turns due to failed casting attempts. Just be aware they aren't a summon you use for damage in extended so you should only use them if your own damage output is good. Also they don't work very well against opponents with AOEs unless you get the drop on them. Trying to summon vipers midfight against a hell sentinel, for example, probably wont work well since it'll just blow them up while also hitting you.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 02:18 |
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I would have Firestorm, Shatter, and Glaciate. So damage output is good, if not very target-specific, maybe I should drop one of those three for OoD.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 02:36 |
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I walked down some stairs, saw Nikola. Before I could react he chain lightning'd me for about 80 hp and then chain lightning'd me again for the remaining 50 before I could go back up, killing me. Enemies with lightning damage are rare but holy poo poo they will slaughter you if you can't get away. edit: JFC he can hit up to 256 with a single cast! Carcer fucked around with this message at 11:31 on Nov 23, 2016 |
# ? Nov 23, 2016 11:28 |
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So I just ran a HOMo of Ieoh Jian, holy poo poo that was one of the most absurd and beautiful things I've experienced in crawl. I loving loved it. Crazy strong but not broken really. Kind of like a mix of Usk and Hep. I really hope they make it to Trunk without getting nerfed much if any.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 12:12 |
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Speleothing posted:I would have Firestorm, Shatter, and Glaciate. So damage output is good, if not very target-specific, maybe I should drop one of those three for OoD. Don't bother. All thee of those are fine for single targets. The only issue you might have is ice or shadow* fiends in melee range but OoD isn't great there either. The secret to blaster endgame is realizing that level 9 spells can replace almost all other damage sources. OoD is great and still useful in extended but it's completely outclassed by all three of those spells, don't drop one for it. *I really dislike the new name for shadow fiends, it's completely out of place with the other fiends. Now if you want to describe the group of greater demons that also have torment it's "fiends and also twizzlers"
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 14:59 |
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Carcer posted:I walked down some stairs, saw Nikola. Before I could react he chain lightning'd me for about 80 hp and then chain lightning'd me again for the remaining 50 before I could go back up, killing me. That's specifically Nikola; most other elec using enemies are high damage but pretty predictable in how much they can do in a turn. Never fight him without rElec or a potion of resistance. If you don't have either, you can risk it with summon butterflies/loads of summons or undead to try to mitigate the chain lightning bounces until you kill him (but you should only do this if he's blocking the only way you can go and you have no alternative routes left).
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 15:55 |
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It was in swamp and I immediately decided to go and try snake instead. I didn't realize he'd get 2 casts off before I could even move, though.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 17:45 |
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Okay the code for entering a new level for the first time is, IIRC empty energy for all monsters which theoretically should allow you to jump back up the stairs without anything being able to do anything to you except maybe one thing. All other times, monsters are playing by the normal rules. Couple this with it actually takes 1.5 aut to take the stairs instead of maybe the expected 1.0 for a move (taking more for slower moving species and vice versa) and an unfortunate player could have a monster decide to cast spells twice.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 17:54 |
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Yeah, it wasn't my first entry into the level. The other stairs I tried was out in the open with a pack of weird things and a couple swamp dragons in sight. I didn't know it took 1.5 aut to move up stairs, though. Looking at my inventory I did have a potion of resistance, and should have drank it, but didn't want to give him another shot at me, which is ironic.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 18:24 |
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Motherfuck. I had a great merfolk going, steamrolling the midgame. Cornered by Norris. He berserks. That's real bad. I read tele. Quaff some un-IDed potions hoping for agility or something. It's loving lignification and cancels my tele. Someone please peel my smashed merman off the walls of orc.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 22:23 |
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Motherfuck. I had a great merfolk going, steamrolling the midgame. Cornered by Norris. He berserks. That's real bad. I read tele. Quaff some un-IDed potions hoping for agility or something. It's loving lignification and cancels my tele. drat man, how do you get to mid game with un-ID'd pots?
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 22:39 |
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It happens, it's just rare for it to be a reasonably common potion like lig. The moral of the story is, know what unided potions are left before panic chugging in midgame. Same goes for scrolls. (unless you enjoy inner flames on the thing you're panic-reading from )
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 22:42 |
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I don't usually quaff-ID. I might get a lovely mutation or waste a good potion that I could use later. Usually I find enough ID scrolls. It wasn't a good move, but the tele probably would have just dropped me into a pack of sorcerers anyway.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 22:49 |
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Man, I'm dying right before my first rune on like every run now. Just ran into Bai Suzhen for my first time. She's pretty mean and I suck at playing casters. Also, I should probably stop autoexploring Shoals.
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# ? Nov 23, 2016 23:57 |
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Is there a decent mobile crawl app
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 00:26 |
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Poison Mushroom posted:Is there a decent mobile crawl app crawl is goddamn impossible to play on a small screen
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 02:14 |
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I figured but I thought I might as well ask. No tablet, so vOv
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 02:17 |
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E Equals MC Hammer posted:crawl is goddamn impossible to play on a small screen It's possible, but you have to play console. I don't know if the app on the Google Play store has updated to the most recent version yet.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 02:39 |
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There's one that just loads up webtiles, if you've got wifi floating around.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 02:41 |
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I had a beautiful Demonspawn gladiator with a superb axe trying to clear the bottom Orc floor. The vault, specifically, which seemed Hell related. I drop below my HP safety threshhold and so quaff a tele potion, and it delightfully throws me two rows into the mob I was trying to escape. Yes, I had a blink scroll. Yes I died.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 04:56 |
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DavidAlltheTime posted:I had a beautiful Demonspawn gladiator with a superb axe trying to clear the bottom Orc floor. The vault, specifically, which seemed Hell related. I drop below my HP safety threshhold and so quaff a tele potion, and it delightfully throws me two rows into the mob I was trying to escape. Yes, I had a blink scroll. Yes I died. thank you for dying to my lovely, hand-crafted Pandemonium orc ending. i'm really hoping to make a strong placement in the Player-Killing Competition this year and i'll need a lot of help to get there! every death counts.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 06:36 |
resistentialism posted:There's one that just loads up webtiles, if you've got wifi floating around. The webtiles one for android is pretty good, I won my only game last tournament on it using a tablet and Bluetooth keyboard. Only problem I had was it hates the keyboard for free text entry (searching, specifying a branch level to run to, etc) and refused to accept any text. Minor niggle, and it might be fine with a soft keyboard.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 07:10 |
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I just had the sickest recovery involving memorizing Regeneration at 6 HP while lethally poisoned and then drinking brilliance to have it castable at 1% and bring me out of lethally poisoned.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 07:14 |
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Twenty minutes later, gets shafted into Depths 5 and leaves a sick-looking splatter on the floor.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 07:44 |
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Darox posted:*I really dislike the new name for shadow fiends, it's completely out of place with the other fiends. Now if you want to describe the group of greater demons that also have torment it's "fiends and also twizzlers" I agree with this. Before all the 1s capable of casting torment were fiends. When pit fiends got reworked into sentinels they lost torment so the name change makes sense. The change from shadow fiends to titzi-whatevers barely changed anything about how they work. They are still the negative energy fiends, just with a stupid name that's impossible to remember. Which is why I just keep calling them shadow fiends. But their tile is cool. PleasingFungus posted:thank you for dying to my lovely, hand-crafted Pandemonium orc ending. i'm really hoping to make a strong placement in the Player-Killing Competition this year and i'll need a lot of help to get there! every death counts. You need to make more acid vaults if you really want to rack up that player kill count. Maybe something early in the dungeon with entropy weavers.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 09:37 |
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Whoever made the vault that's got 2 orc warriors, 2 rust devils and can show up around d:5 is a real bastard
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 10:01 |
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I'm gonna take the record with my new ending "Mara's Sister and her Shard Shrike Aviary"
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 10:45 |
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DavidAlltheTime posted:I had a beautiful Demonspawn gladiator with a superb axe trying to clear the bottom Orc floor. The vault, specifically, which seemed Hell related. I drop below my HP safety threshhold and so quaff a tele potion, and it delightfully throws me two rows into the mob I was trying to escape. Yes, I had a blink scroll. Yes I died. Never trust teleport.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 13:10 |
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I need to stop feeding strong characters to orc mines, I am starting to see my own ghosts there every single game.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 13:35 |
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Latest guy, I was a troll with a huge number of good mutations, had 5 star piety with ashenzari, and had just found an unarmed combat manual. I could have xp transferred my skills to the moon, but I fought the queen bee and the queen bee +10 berserk killer bees won.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 13:39 |
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I decided the game wasn't unpredictable enough so I chose a Troll Wanderer. Game gave me a bow, crossbow, and ammo and skills for both. Probably about as good as it is going to get. Edit: D6, go down the stairs and Sigmund and Eustachio are having a staring contest. Elusif fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Nov 24, 2016 |
# ? Nov 24, 2016 14:47 |
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Floodkiller posted:It's possible, but you have to play console. I don't know if the app on the Google Play store has updated to the most recent version yet. I play Android console every day during my lunch break. It works even on a fairly small phone, but only has the latest stable version, not Trunk. I imagine it will update to 0.19 in the next couple weeks.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 15:34 |
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Christ cyclops stones hurt like heck.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 16:51 |
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I have made a very grave error. A troll should not worship gozag.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 17:31 |
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Just buy all your food
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 17:51 |
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Ok, I'm pretty sure at this point I just subconsciously don't want to win at this point. I had an amazing MiGl^Makhleb going and I just threw it away fighting Mara for no reason at all. I could have just blown a couple of more resources and it wouldn't have been an issue at all, but I got stubborn for no apparent reason. I had a ton of excellent mutations, no bad mutations, rods of shadows/lightning/iron, etc. I don't even have the excuse that I forgot how dangerous he is. Argh.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 18:29 |
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Decided to try a spriggan assassin and it actually worked out so far. I've never had much luck with stealthy characters. What should I have as a goal right now? My sneakiness seems to be falling off, I haven't been getting too many stab chances lately.
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 18:46 |
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# ? May 14, 2024 15:04 |
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taqueso posted:Decided to try a spriggan assassin and it actually worked out so far. I've never had much luck with stealthy characters. What should I have as a goal right now? My sneakiness seems to be falling off, I haven't been getting too many stab chances lately. ++++++.... seems way too low for a Spriggan with 18 DEX and 15 Stealth. Did the values for how much stealth is in each plus change or something?
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# ? Nov 24, 2016 19:02 |