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If anyone is seriously arguing that there was actual election fraud rather than legalized voter suppression on a massive scale, there are more than enough articles you can read to disabuse yourself of those ideas. https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/fact-checking-election-security-expert-j-alex-halderman-9bcdd4cad917#.2cs09uuik
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We havent had an election un a decade that gasnt uncoveted significant amounts of election fraud by Republicans, the question is whether it was significant enough to give Trump the victory. It probably wasnt, but I wouldny be suprised if they won a bunch of smaller elections because of it. This is the party that we know was directly altering votes in one state last election because they managed to accidentally lock themselves in the building while doing it and had to be rescued by the police, and from what I remember they faced no consequences. Of course there was election fraud.
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What the gently caress, NPR? http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswitch/2016/11/23/503180254/is-it-racist-to-call-someone-racist
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If there is fraud by one party then there is probably fraud by both parties, that's why the only real variable is the Russian interference which I don't think is provable in the slightest
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Nov 24, 2016 17:14
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Quest For Glory II posted:If there is fraud by one party then there is probably fraud by both parties, that's why the only real variable is the Russian interference which I don't think is provable in the slightest
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Nov 24, 2016 17:16
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Pollyanna posted:What the gently caress, NPR? AmiYumi posted:Yes, maybe both parties ARE just as bad and the truth IS in the middle.
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Nov 24, 2016 17:17
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Joementum posted:That's an electronic voting machine, which is used in parts of Pennsylvania and not used at all in Wisconsin or Michigan which both use scantron machines with paper ballots. i think it's possible. the alt-right has conspired on other things before. things that were the realm of conspiracy theorists have been proven true in the last 8 years too botany posted:If anyone is seriously arguing that there was actual election fraud rather than legalized voter suppression on a massive scale, there are more than enough articles you can read to disabuse yourself of those ideas. it's strange that he calls the scenario fictional, not factual when he admits it's in fact possible
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Nov 24, 2016 17:18
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I think I listen to this guy's father's podcast (he's an economics professor at Brown). It's pretty good, even though he's unnecessarily contrarian.
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Nov 24, 2016 17:24
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I would not put it above the Democrats to do a bt of fraud, but its a lot more risk for a lot less benefit for them since they tend not to get away with it and their base doesnt approve of them doing it, and from what we know its a hell of a lot more common among the GOP aligned
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Nov 24, 2016 17:24
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You don't need fraud when you've legally denied the right of the other side to vote
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Nov 24, 2016 17:31
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HorseRenoir posted:Very interesting that the neo-nazi thought that the "N" in NAACP stood for black people I thought about posting this but figured it was self-evident.
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Nov 24, 2016 17:31
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Proud Christian Mom posted:You don't need fraud when you've legally denied the right of the other side to vote Sometimes thats only enough to bring you even and you still need an extra push
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Nov 24, 2016 17:32
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Dude thinks his wife is attractive...Story at 11
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Nov 24, 2016 17:38
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Quest For Glory II posted:The article is legit, it just has a dumb headline The headline is the most important part of an article. They better stop caring about getting clicks and care more about growing some loving balls.
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Nov 24, 2016 17:41
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Rabble posted:Dude thinks his wife is attractive...Story at 11 i get what you mean, but do you seriously think like russians aren't going "lol this milkdrinker thinks hes hilarious, tell svetlana, the one with the big boobs, to make him give us info on all future USAF ops in syrian air space"
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Nov 24, 2016 17:50
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Trump dumping the TPP might be a horrible deal, since China is creating a similar trade deal with most of Asia that shuts out America. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-24/china-seizes-opportunity-after-trump-threatens-to-dump-tpp/8056086 quote:United States President-elect Donald Trump's pledge to dump or renegotiate the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) on his first day in office is a gift for the Chinese in their drive to control the world economy. There's more to the article, but the gist is that China is pursuing investment deals, trade agreements, and aid to countries like Malaysia and the Philippines in exchange for control of the South China Sea as well as agree to China's claims regarding the Spratly Islands.
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Nov 24, 2016 17:51
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Pollyanna posted:What the gently caress, NPR?
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Nov 24, 2016 17:54
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Holy poo poo y'all are arguing against Joementum in favor of conspiracy theories.
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Nov 24, 2016 17:56
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Condiv posted:it's strange that he calls the scenario fictional, not factual when he admits it's in fact possible It's possible that I fell through my solid chair yesterday because each particle of my body decided to quantum tunnel successively but I'm gonna go ahead and say that that possibility is fictional, not factual. As in, it's fictional because it didn't happen.
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Pajser posted:i get what you mean, but do you seriously think like russians aren't going "lol this milkdrinker thinks hes hilarious, tell svetlana, the one with the big boobs, to make him give us info on all future USAF ops in syrian air space" Oh, yeah I can see your perspective too...and I'd much rather have an actual diplomat doing our deals. But dragging someone through the mud because he likes his wife's boobs is a stretch. Jr probably has real conflicts of interest we could be talking about, but instead we're judging him because he has a penis. I'm all for equality and fairness, but finding someone attractive and being public about it is not a crime. Personally, I think it's a failure of identity politics to separate the idea that finding someone attractive is basically the moral equivalence of sexual assault, and it was a big part of this election.
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Nov 24, 2016 18:00
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Pollyanna posted:The headline is the most important part of an article. They better stop caring about getting clicks and care more about growing some loving balls. That article is basically "is reverse racism real" and then the body is "no, gently caress you", what more do you want
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Rabble posted:Personally, I think it's a failure of identity politics to separate the idea that finding someone attractive is basically the moral equivalence of sexual assault, and it was a big part of this election. 
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Nov 24, 2016 18:02
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Farking Bastage posted:gently caress YOU Texas U.S. District Judge Amos Mazzant Where the Dem side says 'we'd do anything...' it really should be 'we'd say anything..." Because Dems sure as gently caress don't do poo poo. In fact, their side should say: More money for us Minorities are acceptable in society
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Nov 24, 2016 18:03
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Is there any good news lately? Every single thing tangentially related to politics has been a swirling vortex of despair and doom since Nov 8. Literally everything seems to be burning down around us.
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Nov 24, 2016 18:04
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UV_Catastrophe posted:Is there any good news lately? Thanksgiving sure is a busy travel time, check out these Black Friday deals!
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Nov 24, 2016 18:07
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botany posted:That article is basically "is reverse racism real" and then the body is "no, gently caress you", what more do you want Are you really surprised? It wasn't exactly uncommon pre-election to get multi-page long slapfights because someone posted an article and nobody bothered to read more than the headline. edit- UV_Catastrophe posted:Is there any good news lately? Markets are up uP UP! This totally isn't irrational exuberance either and is definitely based on reasonable investor activity.
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Nov 24, 2016 18:08
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botany posted:It's possible that I fell through my solid chair yesterday because each particle of my body decided to quantum tunnel successively but I'm gonna go ahead and say that that possibility is fictional, not factual. As in, it's fictional because it didn't happen. All the things he mentioned in the "fictional" exploit are things that have been used in multiple real world exploits. It's not really comparable to quantum tunneling a whole person
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Nov 24, 2016 18:11
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Young Freud posted:Trump dumping the TPP might be a horrible deal, since China is creating a similar trade deal with most of Asia that shuts out America. I've always hypothesized that America losing out to China would require a monumentally stupid amount of bad mistakes across multiple levels of government and policy making across internal, external affairs that I thought that the American decision making institutions would never allow this cascade of self inflicted harm to actually happen. Welp! Guess I was wrong!
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Nov 24, 2016 18:12
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Why was the TPP bad again? The only specific point I ever heard was from pirates fearing that it'd make it harder to steal poo poo.
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Nov 24, 2016 18:15
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Motto posted:Why was the TPP bad again? The only specific point I ever heard was from pirates fearing that it'd make it harder to steal poo poo. http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_most_brazen_corporate_power_grab_in_american_history_20151106
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Motto posted:Why was the TPP bad again? The only specific point I ever heard was from pirates fearing that it'd make it harder to steal poo poo. It allowed pro corporate arbitration panels to overturn local environmental and worker safety regulations, among other problems.
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Motto posted:Why was the TPP bad again? The only specific point I ever heard was from pirates fearing that it'd make it harder to steal poo poo. Well for one, it extended poo poo copyright law like the DMCA (with anti-drm cracking provisions) to other countries
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Motto posted:Why was the TPP bad again? The only specific point I ever heard was from pirates fearing that it'd make it harder to steal poo poo. Because The Young Turks said so, and everything they say should be accepted without question no matter how poorly researched it is.
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Motto posted:Why was the TPP bad again? The only specific point I ever heard was from pirates fearing that it'd make it harder to steal poo poo. People are just barely catching on to the fact that the last 40 years of economic policies have not been beneficial to them and free trade is an easy target because foreigners
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Pajser posted:i get what you mean, but do you seriously think like russians aren't going "lol this milkdrinker thinks hes hilarious, tell svetlana, the one with the big boobs, to make him give us info on all future USAF ops in syrian air space" Do you think Donald Trump Jr would remember that poo poo nine seconds after someone told him? loving Donald Trump Sr is already dodging intelligence briefings. Can't give up intelligence you don't know, fuckers! Actually that's probably a viable counter-intel strategy now. The Russians can't spy on us if nobody knows what's going to happen moment to moment.
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UV_Catastrophe posted:Is there any good news lately? This helped me a bit(even though I still come to this board). Turn off the news. Stay away from it all. Enjoy life. Life hasn't changed at all. Who knows what happens after Trump is in office. But right now it's all the loving same. When you aren't fed a constant stream of, "poo poo is burning down!! Trump might have said this or that in a closed meeting!!" It doesn't seem all that bad. Now with that said, since I know some rear end in a top hat is going to point out all the rear end hat trump supporters running around being jackasses, I am truly sorry if that happens to you while out taking my advice to enjoy life and turn off the news.
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Hey guys, maybe all these trade deals aren't that great for your average American. If only there was a candidate promising to rip them up. I bet he would win an election even if he was propped up by racists and suffers from a giant dose of misogyny.
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SaTaMaS posted:Because The Young Turks said so, and everything they say should be accepted without question no matter how poorly researched it is. no one believes this
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Zippy the Bummer posted:huh, Hillary neglected to address or even talk about all the people who mine the coal, pump the oil, work the wind turbines and the nuclear plants, or, you know, grow the loving McGridlles or 20-Piece McNuggets people like to stuff in their loving faces in between posting on tumblr how loving racist and lovely all of those rednecks are! Gosh, those loving misogynist homophobes, gently caress them right?? Trump is an rear end in a top hat. He is an obnoxious curr. But the above is why people like me would vote for him instead of Hillary Clinton. Jesus, what do we even have to choose from? A bombastic blowhard or a pathological liar? Christ, what a choice. We have one choice. Our towns and cities are loving dying. The best we have are Dairy Queens and Dollar Stores. The factories are dead. Who will bring them back? Clinton? Don't make me laugh. She didn't even bother to visit her precious Blue Wall. Well, I'm not going to be the little Dutch Boy, with his finger stuck in the drat. gently caress that. She and the DNC can hold the water back themselves.
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Zippy the Bummer posted:Trump is an rear end in a top hat. He is an obnoxious curr. But the above is why people like me would vote for him instead of Hillary Clinton.
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