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Alaois: Feb 7, 2012

DJExile posted:

I remember when the Dayton Daily News had a great troll of OSU

pepperidge farm remembers

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# ? Nov 24, 2016 03:03

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:19

kayakyakr: Feb 16, 2004; Kayak is true

Leave the Alamo Bowl a Big XII bowl. Bowl games should be in the footprint of at least one conference that is represented at the game. True neutral site games such because neither conference is close enough to send a good crowd to the game.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:37

LLCoolJD: Dec 8, 2007; Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

kayakyakr posted:

Leave the Alamo Bowl a Big XII bowl. Bowl games should be in the footprint of at least one conference that is represented at the game. True neutral site games such because neither conference is close enough to send a good crowd to the game.

We must take care of our friends from the Big Ten.

Move the Liberty Bowl to Philadelphia.

Move the Independence Bowl to Boston.

Bring back Culligan as a sponsor and put the Holiday Bowl in Flint, Michigan.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:53

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

Wooo holiday bowl here we come I wonder who else is being projected th-oh god it's Stanford again :gonk:

# ? Nov 26, 2016 01:43

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

MourningView posted:

Wooo holiday bowl here we come I wonder who else is being projected th-oh god it's Stanford again

Now do you agree with me about how nice Nashville looks :colbert:

# ? Nov 26, 2016 03:24

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Week 12.5 - Nothing Left to Lose

Legend:
Bold = Eligible
Italics = Projected Eligible
~~Strike = Ineligible~~

ACC

ATLANTIC

pre:

Clemson (7-1, 10-1)           SC, VT        (7-1, 13-1)
Louisville (7-1, 9-2)         UK            (7-1, 10-2)
Florida State (5-3, 8-3)      UF            (5-3, 9-3)
Wake Forest (3-4, 6-5)        BC            (4-4, 7-5)
NC State (3-5, 6-6)           BOWL
Syracuse (2-5, 4-7)           @PITT         (2-6, 4-8)
Boston College (1-6, 5-6)     @WAKE         (1-7, 5-7)

COASTAL

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Virginia Tech (5-2, 8-3)      UVA, CLEM     (6-2, 9-4)
North Carolina (5-3, 8-4)     BOWL
Miami (4-3, 7-4)              DUKE          (5-3, 8-4)
Pitt (4-3, 7-4)               CUSE          (5-3, 8-4)
Georgia Tech (4-4, 7-4)       @UGA          (4-4, 7-5)
Duke (1-6, 4-7)               @MIA          (1-7, 4-8)
Virginia (1-6, 2-9)           @VT           (1-7, 2-10)

NC State pulls off the upset over UNC and gets in, which has the domino effect of giving Virginia Tech the Coastal and Clemson their ACCCG opponent. Everyone else goes tomorrow, with only the drama....okay "drama" of BC needing a win over Wake to somehow get to a bowl game.

pre:

Notre Dame (4-7)     @USC     (4-8)

Notre Dame is 4-7.

ACC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 10: Clemson, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Florida State, North Carolina, Miami, Pitt, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, NC State

BIG TEN

EAST

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Michigan (7-1, 10-1)          @OSU         (7-2, 10-2)
Ohio State (7-1, 10-1)        MICH         (8-1, 11-1)
Penn State (7-1, 9-2)         MSU          (8-1, 10-2)
Indiana (3-5, 5-6)            PUR          (4-5, 6-6)
Maryland (2-6, 5-6)           RUT          (3-6, 6-6)
Michigan State (1-7, 3-8)     @PENN        (1-8, 3-9)
Rutgers (0-8, 2-9)            @MARY        (0-9, 2-10)

WEST

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Wisconsin (6-2, 9-2)        MINN, B1GCG    (7-2, 11-2)
Nebraska (6-3, 9-3)         BOWL      
Minnesota (5-3, 8-3)        @WIS           (5-4, 8-4)
Iowa (6-3, 8-4)             BOWL
Northwestern (4-4, 5-6)     ILL            (5-4, 6-6)
Illinois (2-6, 3-8)         @NW            (2-7, 3-9)
Purdue (1-7, 3-8)           @IND           (1-8, 3-9)

Iowa knocks off Nebraska, giving the West to Wisconsin and earning Kirk Ferentz another extension. As of right now I'm putting the W in Wisconsin's column for the B1GCG since I think Ohio State beats Michigan and Penn State beats Sparty, followed by Wisconsin beating Penn State, but I obviously reserve the right to change my mind pending tomorrow's results.

Big Ten Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 10: Wisconsin, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, Maryland, Indiana

Big 12

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Oklahoma (8-0, 9-2)            OKST           (9-0, 10-2)
Oklahoma State (7-1, 9-2)      @OK            (7-2, 9-3)
West Virginia (5-2, 8-2)       @ISU, BAY      (7-2, 10-2)
Kansas State (4-3, 6-4)        KU, @TCU       (5-4, 7-5)
TCU (4-4, 6-5)                 KSU            (5-4, 7-5)
Baylor (3-5, 6-5)              @WVU           (3-6, 6-6)
Texas (3-6, 5-7)               APR
Texas Tech (3-6, 5-7)          APR
Iowa State (2-6, 3-8)          WVU            (2-7, 3-9)
Kansas (1-7, 2-9)              @KSU           (1-8, 2-10)

God-willing TCU finally puts Charlie Strong out of his misery and he can go somewhere he'll be appreciated, whether it's to another head coaching gig or a nice warm beach somewhere to spend his buyout money. TCU gets in which gives us our six eligible teams; Texas Tech and Texas can come out of the APR pool but I don't think the Red Raiders are that high and I don't anticipate Texas taking a bid, especially if Charlie's finally long gone.

Big 12 Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Oklahoma, West Virginia, Oklahoma State, TCU, Kansas State, Baylor

PAC-12

NORTH

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Washington (8-1, 11-1)          P12CG     (8-1, 12-1)
Washington State (7-2, 8-4)     BOWL
Stanford (6-3, 8-3)             RICE      (6-3, 9-3)
Cal (2-6, 4-7)                  UCLA      (3-6, 5-7)
Oregon (2-6, 4-7)               @ORST     (3-6, 5-7)
Oregon State (2-6, 3-8)         ORE       (2-7, 3-9)

SOUTH

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Colorado (7-1, 9-2)          UTAH       (8-1, 10-2)
USC (7-2, 8-3)               ND         (7-2, 9-3)
Utah (5-3, 8-3)              @COL       (5-4, 8-4)
UCLA (2-6, 4-7)              @CAL       (3-6, 5-7)
Arizona State (2-7, 5-7)     APR
Arizona (1-8, 3-9)           DONE

Washington wins the Apple Cup, the Pac-12 North, and keeps the conference's playoff hopes alive. The conference does take a hit with Arizona upsetting Arizona State, who complete their annual death spiral on a six-game losing streak, and methinks it's time for Todd Graham to find some other relatives and dream jobs around the country.

Pac-12 Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Washington, Colorado, USC, Stanford, Washington State, Utah

SEC

EAST

pre:

Florida (6-2, 8-2)            @FSU, BAMA     (6-2, 8-4)
Tennessee (4-3, 8-3)          @VAN           (5-3, 9-3)
Georgia (4-4, 7-4)            GT             (4-4, 8-4)
Kentucky (4-4, 6-5)           @LOU           (4-4, 6-6)
South Carolina (3-5, 6-5)     @CLEM          (3-5, 6-6)
Vanderbilt (2-5, 5-6)         TENN           (2-6, 5-7)
Missouri (2-6, 4-8)           DONE

WEST

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Alabama (7-0, 11-0)              AUB, UF       (8-0, 13-0)
Auburn (5-2, 8-3)                @BAMA         (5-3, 8-4)
LSU (5-3, 7-4)                   BOWL
Texas A&M (4-4, 8-4)             BOWL
Arkansas (3-5, 7-5)              BOWL
Ole Miss (2-5, 5-6)              MSST          (2-6, 5-7)
Mississippi State (2-5, 4-7)     @MISS         (3-5, 5-7)

LSU runs over A&M, though it may or may not be enough to save DACOACHO, because Joe Alleva is bad at keeping leaks inside. And I loving called Missouri beating bert from the first loving projection I did and it loving came true so loving suck it and as much as I'd like to go on this huge rant it's late and I'm tired, so gently caress bert, gently caress arkansas, gently caress the sec as a staff, conference and as a motherfucking crew, and if you wanna be down with :razorfront:

, then gently caress you too.

SEC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 10: Alabama, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, Georgia, Texas A&M, Kentucky, Arkansas, South Carolina

AMERICAN

EAST

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South Florida (6-1, 9-2)     UCF           (7-1, 10-2)
Temple (6-1, 8-3)            ECU           (7-1, 9-3)
UCF (4-3, 6-5)               @USF          (5-3, 7-5)
Cincinnati (1-6, 4-7)        @TULSA        (1-7, 4-8)
UConn (1-6, 3-8)             TULANE        (2-6, 4-8)
East Carolina (1-7, 3-9)     DONE

WEST

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Navy (6-1, 8-2)        @SMU, AACCG, ARMY    (7-1, 11-2)
Tulsa (6-2, 9-3)       BOWL
Houston (5-3, 9-3)     BOWL
Memphis (5-3, 8-4)     BOWL
SMU (3-4, 5-6)         NAVY                 (3-5, 5-7)
Tulane (0-7, 3-8)      @UCONN               (0-8, 3-9)

Well, looks like those rumors got to Houston after all. This allows Tulsa to jump the Cougars and in all probability Memphis will be a more attractive team, as they'll have a head coach and Houston won't.

American Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: Navy, Temple, South Florida, Tulsa, Houston, Memphis, UCF

C-USA

EAST

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Western Kentucky (6-1, 8-3)   @MAR    (7-1, 9-3)
Old Dominion (6-1, 8-3)       FIU     (7-1, 9-3)
Middle Tennessee (4-3, 7-4)   FAU     (5-3, 8-4)
FIU (4-3, 4-7)                @ODU    (4-4, 4-8)
Charlotte (3-4, 4-7)          @UTSA   (3-5, 4-8)
Marshall (2-5, 3-8)           WKU     (2-6, 3-9)
FAU (2-5, 3-8)                @MTSU   (2-6, 3-9)

WEST

pre:

Louisiana Tech (6-2, 8-4)   C-USACG        (7-1, 9-4)
UTSA (4-3, 5-6)             CHA            (5-3, 6-6)
Southern Miss (4-4, 6-6)    BOWL
North Texas (3-4, 5-6)      @UTEP          (4-4, 6-6)
Rice (2-6, 3-8)             @STAN          (2-6, 3-9)
UTEP (1-6, 3-8)             UNT            (1-7, 3-9)

Good thing Louisiana Tech already clinched the West, because they sure took their foot off the gas. It allows Southern Miss, who had all but played themselves out of a bowl, to now make one, and it probably costs LaTech nothing and gains everyone more money, so, uh, good for them smart play?

C-USA Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: Western Kentucky, Louisiana Tech, Old Dominion, Middle Tennessee, UTSA, North Texas, Southern Miss

INDEPENDENTS

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BYU (7-4)     UTAHST       (8-4)
Army (6-5)    NAVY         (6-6)
UMass (2-9)   @HAW         (2-10)

Notre Dame is 4-7.

Independent Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 2: BYU, Army

MAC

EAST

pre:

Ohio (6-2, 8-4)            WMU         (6-2, 8-5)
Miami Ohio (6-2, 6-6)      BOWL!
Akron (3-5, 5-7)           APR
Bowling Green (3-5, 4-8)   DONE
Kent State (2-6, 3-9)      DONE
Buffalo (1-7, 2-10)        DONE

WEST

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Western Michigan (8-0, 12-0)   OHIO      (8-0, 13-0)
Toledo (6-2, 9-3)              BOWL
Northern Illinois (5-3, 5-7)   APR
Eastern Michigan (4-4, 7-5)    BOWL
Central Michigan (3-5, 6-6)    BOWL
Ball State (1-7, 4-8)          DONE

Row The loving Boat. (sidenote: I never realized I wanted a Row the Boat shirt done in the old ECF'NW shirt style until now. RTF'NB). A win over Ohio in Murder City all but sends them rowing to the Cotton, unless the Committee decides that we need to :911:

honor are troopz :freep:

and boosts Navy above them, which would be an outrage but also sadly predictable. Miami completes the miracle comeback and deserves to go somewhere nice and warm for their bowl game.

MAC Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Western Michigan, Ohio, Toledo, Eastern Michigan, Miami Ohio, Central Michigan

MOUNTAIN WEST

MOUNTAIN

pre:

Wyoming (6-1, 8-3)          @NM, SDSU    (7-1, 9-4)
Boise State (6-2, 10-2)     BOWL
New Mexico (5-2, 7-4)       WYO          (5-3, 7-5)
Air Force (5-3, 9-3)        BOWL
Colorado State (4-3, 6-5)   SDSU         (4-4, 6-6)
Utah State (1-7, 3-8)       @BYU         (1-7, 3-9)

WEST

pre:

San Diego State (6-1, 9-2)   CSU, @WYO   (7-1, 11-2)
Hawai'i (4-4, 5-7)           UMASS       (4-4, 6-7)
UNLV (3-4, 4-7)              NEV         (4-4, 5-7)
Nevada (2-5, 4-7)            @UNLV       (2-6, 4-8)
San Jose State (2-5, 3-8)    @FRESNO     (3-5, 4-8)
Fresno State (0-7, 1-10)     SJST        (0-8, 1-11)

Boise falters against Air Force, which gives Wyoming the division and knocks Boise out of the running for the Cotton. I'm not sure who's hosting between Wyoming and San Diego State; I'm assuming Wyoming because if the records are the same they won the H2H, but I could be wrong.

MWC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: San Diego State, Wyoming, Boise State, Air Force, New Mexico, Colorado State, Hawai'i

SUN BELT

pre:

Arkansas State (6-0, 6-4)        @ULL, @TXST    (8-0, 8-4)
App State (6-1, 8-3)             @NMST          (7-1, 9-3)
Troy (5-1, 8-2)                  @TXST, @GSO    (7-1, 10-2)
Idaho (4-2, 6-4)                 USA, GSU       (6-2, 8-4)
Louisiana-Lafayette (3-3, 4-6)   ARKST, @ULM    (4-4, 5-7)
Georgia Southern (3-4, 4-7)      TROY           (3-5, 4-8)
Louisiana-Monroe (3-4, 4-7)      ULL            (3-5, 4-8)
New Mexico State (2-4, 3-7)      APP, @USA      (2-6, 3-9)
Georgia State (2-5, 3-8)         @IDAHO         (2-6, 3-9)
South Alabama (1-5, 5-5)         @IDAHO, NMSU   (2-6, 6-6)
Texas State (0-6, 2-8)           TROY, ARKST    (0-8, 2-10)

wait how'd the fun belt not play any midweek game in this of all weeks

Sun Belt Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 5: Arkansas State, Troy, App State, Idaho, South Alabama

Current Bowl Eligible Teams: 66
Number of Projected Bowl Eligible Teams: 76, one more than last week.

College Football Playoff

pre:

Peach Bowl    Dec. 31   Atlanta, Ga.		#1 Alabama (SEC Champ) vs. #4 Washington (Pac-12 Champ)
Fiesta Bowl   Dec. 31   Glendale, Ariz.		#2 Clemson (ACC Champ) vs. #3 Wisconsin (Big Ten Champ)

Not budging from this for right now, though 12-1 Pac-12 Champ Washington vs. 11-1 Ohio State's going to be a battle if it comes down to that.

New Year's Bowls

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Sugar Bowl    Jan. 2   	New Orleans, La.   Big 12 vs SEC	    Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) vs. Auburn (SEC Rep)
Rose Bowl     Jan. 2   	Pasadena, Calif.   Big Ten vs Pac-12	    Ohio State (Big Ten Rep) vs. Colorado (Pac-12 Rep)
Cotton Bowl   Jan. 2   	Arlington, Tex.    Group of 5 vs. At-large  Western Michigan (Group of 5 Rep) vs. Penn State (At-Large)
Orange Bowl   Dec. 30   Miami, Fla.	   ACC vs. Big Ten/SEC/ND   Louisville (ACC Rep) vs. Michigan (Big Ten Rep)

No upsets here means I'm not moving off these projections. We'll see how they look tomorrow.

And the rest:

pre:

Outback Bowl	        Jan. 2	  Tampa, Fla.	         B1G vs. SEC        	Nebraska vs. Florida
TaxSlayer Bowl	        Dec. 31   Jacksonville, Fla.	 ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	North Carolina vs. LSU
Citrus Bowl	        Dec. 31	  Orlando, Fla.	         ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	Florida State vs. Tennessee
Arizona Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Tucson, Ariz.	         CUSA vs. MWC       	North Texas vs. Wyoming
Music City Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Nashville, Tenn.	 ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	Minnesota vs. Georgia
Sun Bowl	        Dec. 30	  El Paso, Tex.	         ACC vs. P12        	Wake Forest vs. Utah
Liberty Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Memphis, Tenn.	 B12 vs. SEC        	Kansas State vs. Arkansas
Alamo Bowl	        Dec. 29	  San Antonio, Tex.	 B12 vs. P12        	Oklahoma State vs. USC
Belk Bowl	        Dec. 29	  Charlotte, N.C.	 ACC vs. SEC        	Pitt vs. Kentucky
Birmingham Bowl	        Dec. 29	  Birmingham, Ala.	 AAC vs. SEC            South Florida vs. South Carolina
Texas Bowl	        Dec. 28	  Houston, Tex.	         B12 vs. SEC        	TCU vs. Texas A&M
Foster Farms Bowl	Dec. 28	  Santa Clara, Calif.	 B1G vs. P12        	Indiana vs. Washington State
Russell Athletic Bowl	Dec. 28	  Orlando, Fla.	         ACC vs. B12        	Virginia Tech vs. West Virginia
Pinstripe Bowl	        Dec. 28	  New York, N.Y.	 ACC vs. B1G        	Miami vs. Northwestern
Cactus Bowl	        Dec. 27	  Tempe, Ariz.	         B12 vs. P12            Baylor vs. UCLA*
Holiday Bowl	        Dec. 27	  San Diego, Calif.	 B1G vs. P12        	Iowa vs. Stanford
Military Bowl	        Dec. 27	  Annapolis, Md.	 ACC vs. AAC         	Memphis vs. Georgia Tech
Heart of Dallas Bowl	Dec. 27	  Dallas, Tex.	         B1G vs. CUSA           Army vs. Louisiana Tech
Independence Bowl	Dec. 26	  Shreveport, La.	 SEC vs. ACC            Southern Miss vs. NC State
Quick Lane Bowl	        Dec. 26	  Detroit, Mich.	 ACC vs. B1G            Boston College* vs. Maryland
St. Petersburg Bowl	Dec. 26	  St. Petersburg, Fla.   AAC vs ACC         	Temple vs. Vanderbilt*
Hawai'i Bowl	        Dec. 24	  Honolulu, Hawaii	 CUSA vs. MWC      	UTSA vs. Hawai'i
Dollar General Bowl	Dec. 23	  Mobile, Ala.	         MAC vs. SB	        Ohio vs. Troy
Armed Forces Bowl	Dec. 23	  Fort Worth, Tex.	 B12 vs. Navy           Mississippi State* vs. Navy
Bahamas Bowl	        Dec. 23	  Nassau, Bahamas	 CUSA vs. MAC           Old Dominion vs. Miami Ohio
Idaho Potato Bowl	Dec. 22	  Boise, Idaho	         MAC vs. MWC            Central Michigan vs. Colorado State
Poinsettia Bowl	        Dec. 21	  San Diego, Calif.	 MWC vs. BYU       	Air Force vs. BYU
Boca Raton Bowl	        Dec. 20	  Boca Raton, Fla.	 AAC vs. CUSA           Houston vs. Western Kentucky
Miami Beach Bowl	Dec. 19	  Miami, Fla.	         AAC vs. MAC            Tulsa vs. Eastern Michigan
New Orleans Bowl	Dec. 17	  New Orleans, La.	 MWC vs. SB             Boise State vs. Arkansas State
Cure Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Orlando, Fla.	         AAC vs. SB             UCF vs. App State
Camellia Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Montgomery, Ala.	 MAC vs. SB             Toledo vs. South Alabama
Las Vegas Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Las Vegas, Nev.	 MWC vs. P12            San Diego State vs. Idaho
New Mexico Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Albuquerque, N.M.	 CUSA vs. MWC           Middle Tennessee vs. New Mexico

We need four from the APR pool, so come on down Vanderbilt, Boston College, UCLA, and Mississippi State!

Looking at these matchups, New Orleans gonna be loving lit. Boca Raton stumbles into what could be a good deal depending on what Houston team shows up. We get a rematch of last year's Rose in the Holiday, so MV finally gets what he's been wanting, and Liberty is the same matchup as it was the year before, which is what no one wants. We once again can't spell Citrus without "UT", and Black Diamond in the RAB. TCU/A&M might move some tickets in H-Tizzy as well.

This is still wrong. It will always be wrong. Soon it won't matter how wrong it is. I'll do another round after tomorrow's games, a what-if after the poll show on Tuesday, and then we'll let it ride once bowl announces start to trickle out next Saturday.

C. Everett Koop fucked around with this message at 09:31 on Nov 26, 2016

# ? Nov 26, 2016 09:28

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

C. Everett Koop posted:

WEST
pre:
San Diego State (6-1, 9-2)   CSU, @WYO   (7-1, 11-2)
Hawai'i (4-4, 5-7)           UMASS       (4-4, 6-7)
UNLV (3-4, 4-7)              NEV         (4-4, 5-7)
Nevada (2-5, 4-7)            @UNLV       (2-6, 4-8)
San Jose State (2-5, 3-8)    @FRESNO     (3-5, 4-8)
Fresno State (0-7, 1-10)     SJST        (0-8, 1-11)
Boise falters against Air Force, which gives Wyoming the division and knocks Boise out of the running for the Cotton. I'm not sure who's hosting between Wyoming and San Diego State; I'm assuming Wyoming because if the records are the same they won the H2H, but I could be wrong.

MWC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: San Diego State, Wyoming, Boise State, Air Force, New Mexico, Colorado State, Hawai'i

The host of the MWCCG is the highest ranking team in the CFP polls. If neither team is ranked, then the host is the highest ranked team in a couple of other aggregate polls.

It's dumb.

# ? Nov 26, 2016 10:48

Chieves: Sep 20, 2010

TCU versus A&M will probably not happen because the SEC really doesn't like putting them against other D1 Texas schools.

It would be such a good #narrative game though, between old rivalries, Kenny Hill, etc.

# ? Nov 26, 2016 16:13

DC Murderverse: Nov 10, 2016; "Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

And with a win over Nebraska, Iowa avoids playing a rematch with a team who kicked the poo poo out of us in a bowl not long ago, in that team's home state. Now who do we play?

...

god dammit

# ? Nov 26, 2016 17:17

JesustheDarkLord: May 22, 2006; #VolsDeep; Lipstick Apathy

If Arkansas State loses and Appalachian State wins, what's the tiebreaker? I don't think they played.

# ? Nov 26, 2016 20:58

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

JesustheDarkLord posted:

If Arkansas State loses and Appalachian State wins, what's the tiebreaker? I don't think they played.

None, they (and Troy if necessary) split the conference title like the good ol' days. As per bowl bids, I imagine that's a discussion among the bowls, conference office, and the schools themselves, which is going to happen regardless.

# ? Nov 27, 2016 02:09

pillsburysoldier: Feb 11, 2008; Yo, peep that shit

Orange Bowl reps gonna lobby the playoff committee to rank FSU higher than Louisville for the orange bowl takes them and gets a lot more money

# ? Nov 27, 2016 18:39

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Week 13 - Milk was a Bad Choice

Legend:
Bold = Eligible
Italics = Projected Eligible
~~Strike = Ineligible~~

ACC

ATLANTIC

pre:

Clemson (7-1, 11-1)           VT        (7-1, 13-1)
Louisville (7-1, 9-3)         BOWL
Florida State (5-3, 9-3)      BOWL
NC State (3-5, 6-6)           BOWL
Wake Forest (3-5, 6-6)        BOWL
Boston College (2-6, 6-6)     BOWL
Syracuse (2-6, 4-8)           DONE

COASTAL

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Virginia Tech (6-2, 9-3)      CLEM     (6-2, 9-4)
North Carolina (5-3, 8-4)     BOWL
Miami (5-3, 8-4)              BOWL
Pitt (5-3, 8-4)               BOWL
Georgia Tech (4-4, 8-4)       BOWL
Duke (1-7, 4-8)               DONE
Virginia (1-7, 2-10)          DONE

ACC goes from 9 teams to 11 due to UNC and Wake Forest making GBS threads the bed. The conference's playoff hopes comes down to Clemson, a win over the Hokies on Saturday sends them to the Playoffs, a loss and the ACC's on the outside looking in.

pre:

Notre Dame (4-8)     DONE

Notre Dame is 4-8. Don't let anyone ever forget this.

ACC Bowl Eligible Teams - 11: Clemson, Louisville, Virginia Tech, Florida State, North Carolina, Miami, Pitt, Georgia Tech, NC State, Wake Forest, Boston College

BIG TEN

EAST

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Penn State (8-1, 10-2)        WISC          (8-1, 10-3)
Ohio State (8-1, 11-1)        BOWL
Michigan (7-2, 10-2)          BOWL
Indiana (4-5, 6-6)            BOWL
Maryland (3-6, 6-6)           BOWL
Michigan State (1-8, 3-9)     DONE
Rutgers (0-9, 2-10)           DONE

WEST

pre:

Wisconsin (7-2, 10-2)       B1GCG    (7-2, 11-2)
Nebraska (6-3, 9-3)         BOWL      
Iowa (6-3, 8-4)             BOWL
Minnesota (5-4, 8-4)        BOWL
Northwestern (5-4, 6-6)     BOWL
Illinois (2-7, 3-9)         DONE
Purdue (1-8, 3-9)           DONE

The good news for the conference is that the three teams who needed a win got one, moving the total number of eligible teams to 10. The bad news is that the disaster scenario of Ohio State over Michigan and Penn State over Sparty happened, meaning that not only do you not have your two best teams in the conference championship, you run the risk of having them left out of the Playoff. Now, the idea that the B1G is going to be left out of the Playoff is asine, and getting two teams in isn't out of the question. But ask anyone from the conference office off the record, and to a man they'll tell you they want Ohio State in there, and Buckeye getting in isn't a guarantee right now. Whether it should be is the billion dollar question.

Big Ten Bowl Eligible Teams - 10: Penn State, Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, Northwestern, Indiana, Maryland

Big 12

pre:

Oklahoma (8-0, 9-2)            OKST      (9-0, 10-2)
Oklahoma State (7-1, 9-2)      @OK       (7-2, 9-3)
West Virginia (6-2, 9-2)       BAY       (7-2, 10-2)
Kansas State (5-3, 7-4)        @TCU      (5-4, 7-5)
TCU (4-4, 6-5)                 KSU       (5-4, 7-5)
Baylor (3-5, 6-5)              @WVU      (3-6, 6-6)
Texas (3-6, 5-7)               APR
Texas Tech (3-6, 5-7)          APR
Iowa State (2-7, 3-9)          DONE
Kansas (1-8, 2-10)             DONE

God-willing TCU finally puts Charlie Strong out of his misery and he can go somewhere he'll be appreciated, whether it's to another head coaching gig or a nice warm beach somewhere to spend his buyout money. TCU gets in which gives us our six eligible teams; Texas Tech and Texas can come out of the APR pool but I don't think the Red Raiders are that high and I don't anticipate Texas taking a bid, especially if Charlie's finally long gone.

Big 12 Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, West Virginia, TCU, Kansas State, Baylor

PAC-12

NORTH

pre:

Washington (8-1, 11-1)          P12CG     (8-1, 12-1)
Washington State (7-2, 8-4)     BOWL
Stanford (6-3, 9-3)             BOWL
Cal (3-6, 5-7)                  APR
Oregon State (3-6, 4-8)         DONE
Oregon (2-7, 4-8)               DONE

SOUTH

pre:

Colorado (8-1, 10-2)         WASH       (8-1, 10-3)
USC (7-2, 9-3)               BOWL
Utah (5-4, 8-4)              BOWL
Arizona State (2-7, 5-7)     APR
UCLA (2-7, 4-8)              DONE
Arizona (1-8, 3-9)           DONE

Washington/Colorado might not be as sexy as Washington/USC, but it gives the conference a slight bit of wiggle room in the event of an upset to remain in the Playoff. Then again, I could very easily see the Pac-12 being left out in favor of another Big Ten team, given how lousy the conference has been this season. Wait and see.

Pac-12 Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Washington, Colorado, USC, Washington State, Stanford, Utah

SEC

EAST

pre:

Florida (6-2, 8-3)            BAMA     (6-2, 8-4)
Tennessee (4-4, 8-4)          BOWL
Georgia (4-4, 7-5)            BOWL
Kentucky (4-4, 7-5)           BOWL
South Carolina (3-5, 6-6)     BOWL
Vanderbilt (3-5, 6-6)         BOWL
Missouri (2-6, 4-8)           DONE

WEST

pre:

Alabama (8-0, 12-0)              UF       (8-0, 13-0)
Auburn (5-3, 8-4)                BOWL
LSU (5-3, 7-4)                   BOWL
Texas A&M (4-4, 8-4)             BOWL
Arkansas (3-5, 7-5)              BOWL
Mississippi State (3-5, 5-7)     APR
Ole Miss (2-6, 5-7)              APR

The slight, slight good news for the conference is that they're tied for the most bowl-eligible teams with 11, and depending on how APR works out they could get to 12. That being said, and now that I'm good and awake, is that the SEC is by far the worst loving conference out of the Power 5, they're probably worse than the American, they're living off the glory of the "!~~*~*~*StReNgTh EvErYwHeRe CoNfEr3nC3**~*~*" reputation from the BCS era, they're only going to have one double-digit win team with everyone else ranging from mediocre to utter dogshit, everyone not named Bama got their rear end beat in non-con, and the idea that the SEC is the best because of how "tough" the conference slate is or because "it just means more" needs to sit back and take a good, hard look at how loving bad this conference is. poo poo, I'm willing to make the argument that Bama only looks good because they're the only good team in this shithole of a conference and are only #1 because they started #1 and because "they Bama Pawwwwwwwwwwwllllllllllllllll" and if we're going to leave out a conference champ, it should be Alabama because the SEC is a goddamn embarrassment. But instead Bama will probably win out and go 15-0 and everyone will continue the false narrative that the SEC is the best, despite the fact that Bama's their only Top 10 team and probably their only Top 25 team by the time the bowl season assbeating takes place. I'm not even shitposting anymore, the SEC sucks and the only thing that's worse than the teams on the field are the fans in the stands.

SEC Bowl Eligible Teams - 11: Alabama, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, Georgia, Texas A&M, Kentucky, Arkansas, South Carolina, Vanderbilt

AMERICAN

EAST

pre:

Temple (7-1, 9-3)            @NAVY           (7-1, 9-4)
South Florida (7-1, 10-2)    BOWL
UCF (4-4, 6-6)               BOWL
Cincinnati (1-7, 4-8)        DONE
UConn (1-6, 3-9)             DONE
East Carolina (1-7, 3-9)     DONE

WEST

pre:

Navy (7-1, 9-2)        TEMPLE, ARMY    (7-1, 11-2)
Tulsa (6-2, 9-3)       BOWL
Houston (5-3, 9-3)     BOWL
Memphis (5-3, 8-4)     BOWL
SMU (3-5, 5-7)         APR
Tulane (1-7, 4-8)      DONE

Here's the funny thing about Navy's situation: bowl bids start going out next Sunday, after the conference championship games. However, Navy's season isn't over until the Army/Navy game the following weekend, and it's entirely possible that WMU loses next weekend and Navy wins, giving Navy the Cotton Bowl bid, and then Army comes in and upsets the Middies. It makes me wonder if the committee will setup an either/or scenario, one where Navy's in the Cotton with a win and someone else is with a loss, or if they say "gently caress it" and Navy's in no matter what. We've never had to deal with this before, so I'm curious to see how this'll play out.

American Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: Navy, Temple, South Florida, Tulsa, Houston, Memphis, UCF

C-USA

EAST

pre:

Western Kentucky (7-1, 9-3)   LATECH    (7-1, 10-3)
Old Dominion (7-1, 9-3)       BOWL
Middle Tennessee (5-3, 8-4)   BOWL
FIU (4-4, 4-8)                DONE
Charlotte (3-5, 4-8)          DONE
Marshall (2-6, 3-9)           DONE
FAU (2-6, 3-9)                DONE

WEST

pre:

Louisiana Tech (6-2, 8-4)   @WKU        (6-2, 8-5)
UTSA (5-3, 6-6)             BOWL
Southern Miss (4-4, 6-6)    BOWL
North Texas (3-5, 5-7)      APR
UTEP (2-6, 4-8)             DONE
Rice (2-6, 3-9)             DONE

It's WKU's to lose again, and I don't think that'll happen. Southern Miss gets in and North Texas falls out, giving C-USA an even six teams in.

C-USA Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Western Kentucky, Old Dominion, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, UTSA, Southern Miss

INDEPENDENTS

pre:

BYU (8-4)     BOWL
Army (6-5)    NAVY         (6-6)
UMass (2-10)  DONE

Reminder on Army's situation; they have to FCS wins on their schedule and they can only count one, so technically they only have five wins. An upset over Navy gives them the extra win they need, but since we won't have enough six-win teams to fill all the slots teams with 2 FCS wins go before the APR pool, so for all intents and purposes Army's bowl-eligible, and I'm going to treat them as such.

Independent Bowl Eligible Teams - 2: BYU, Army

MAC

EAST

pre:

Ohio (6-2, 8-4)            WMU         (6-2, 8-5)
Miami Ohio (6-2, 6-6)      BOWL!
Akron (3-5, 5-7)           APR
Bowling Green (3-5, 4-8)   DONE
Kent State (2-6, 3-9)      DONE
Buffalo (1-7, 2-10)        DONE

WEST

pre:

Western Michigan (8-0, 12-0)   OHIO      (8-0, 13-0)
Toledo (6-2, 9-3)              BOWL
Northern Illinois (5-3, 5-7)   APR
Eastern Michigan (4-4, 7-5)    BOWL
Central Michigan (3-5, 6-6)    BOWL
Ball State (1-7, 4-8)          DONE

honor are troopz :freep:

pre:

Wyoming (6-2, 8-4)          SDSU    (6-2, 8-5)
Boise State (6-2, 10-2)     BOWL
New Mexico (6-2, 8-4)       BOWL
Air Force (5-3, 9-3)        BOWL
Colorado State (5-3, 7-5)   BOWL
Utah State (1-7, 3-9)       DONE

WEST

pre:

San Diego State (6-2, 9-3)   WYO   (6-2, 10-3)
Hawai'i (4-4, 6-7)           BOWL
Nevada (3-5, 5-7)            APR
San Jose State (3-5, 4-8)    DONE
UNLV (3-5, 4-8)              DONE
Fresno State (0-8, 1-11)     DONE

The MWC sure didn't end the year on a strong note. SDSU gets upset by Colorado State, and while it doesn't cost the Aztecs the division it does eliminate any chance the MWC champ goes to the Cotton. Wyoming ends up winning on the second tiebreaker between Boise and New Mexico, and needs to feel fortunate that overall winning percentage wasn't higher in the tiebreaker or else it'd be Boise again. No one knows where the conference championship is going to be played yet, but I'll still take SDSU in said game. Hawai'i gets in the same way Army does, after the 6-6 teams but before the APR pool, and we all know they're just going to bowl at home. Regardless, Rainbows Bitch.

MWC Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 7: San Diego State, Boise State, Wyoming, New Mexico, Air Force, Colorado State, Hawai'i

SUN BELT

pre:

App State (7-1, 9-3)             BOWL
Troy (6-1, 9-2)                  @GSO      (7-1, 10-2)
Arkansas State (6-1, 6-5)        @TXST     (7-1, 7-5)
Idaho (5-2, 7-4)                 GSU       (6-2, 8-4)
Louisiana-Lafayette (4-3, 5-6)   @ULM      (4-4, 5-7)
Georgia Southern (3-4, 4-7)      TROY      (3-5, 4-8)
Louisiana-Monroe (3-4, 4-7)      ULL       (3-5, 4-8)
Georgia State (2-5, 3-8)         @IDAHO    (2-6, 3-9)
New Mexico State (2-5, 3-8)      @USA      (2-6, 3-9)
South Alabama (1-6, 5-6)         NMSU      (2-6, 6-6)
Texas State (0-7, 2-9)           ARKST     (0-8, 2-10)

App has clinched at least a share of the Fun Belt title, which they can share with either Troy or Arky State depending if they win their last two games. How this'll work for bowl-selection is up in the air, since that'll be decided by the bowls, the schools, and the conference. ULL just needs one more win to get in, and South Alabama is in the same boat as Army with their two FCS wins, but they've been approved for a waiver due to the LSU/Presbyterian scheduling issue.

Sun Belt Projected Bowl Eligible Teams - 6: Arkansas State, Troy, App State, Idaho, Louisiana-Lafayette, South Alabama

Current Bowl Eligible Teams: 75
Number of Projected Bowl Eligible Teams: 78, three more than yesterday!

College Football Playoff

pre:

Peach Bowl    Dec. 31   Atlanta, Ga.		#1 Alabama (SEC Champ) vs. #4 Wisconsin (Big Ten Champ)
Fiesta Bowl   Dec. 31   Glendale, Ariz.		#2 Clemson (ACC Champ) vs. #3 Ohio State (At-Large)

So the committee has spent the past three years talking out of both sides of its mouth. They want to select the best four teams, but they also highly value conference champions. Well, we now have a clear-cut situation where one of the four best teams in the country is not a conference champ, or even a divisional champ. As much as they've tried to avoid establishing a precedent, whatever they do here will set one: if they take Ohio State it devalues the conference championships, if they leave Ohio State out it sends the message that you're not getting into the Playoff unless you win your conference. Personally, I think Ohio State's been too good to be left out, and as such they become the first At-Large team to get in.

We can agree that Alabama (unfortunately) and Clemson are automatically in if they win their conference championship games, and Bama's probably in regardless because :cuts and pastes previous rant:. That leaves one spot for three conferences: 12-1 Washington, 10-2 Oklahoma, and 11-2 Wisconsin. It's easy to dump Oklahoma because of their non-con struggles, but Washington's non-con was trash as well. I also don't think the committee wants to leave out the Big Ten champ, and as such the B1G becomes the first conference to send two teams to the Playoff. They'll be split up as to not guarantee the Big Ten a spot in the title game, and because an Alabama/Ohio State game in the semis can outshine the championship. Washington howls bloody murder but it falls on deaf ears, but it does get the ball rolling on an eight-team playoff that guarantees all the conference champs a spot.

New Year's Bowls

pre:

Sugar Bowl    Jan. 2   	New Orleans, La.   Big 12 vs SEC	    Oklahoma (Big 12 Champ) vs.  Auburn (SEC Rep)
Rose Bowl     Jan. 2   	Pasadena, Calif.   Big Ten vs Pac-12	    Michigan (Big Ten Rep) vs. Washington (Pac-12 Champ)
Cotton Bowl   Jan. 2   	Arlington, Tex.    Group of 5 vs. At-large  Western Michigan (Group of 5 Rep) vs. USC (At-Large)
Orange Bowl   Dec. 30   Miami, Fla.	   ACC vs. Big Ten/SEC/ND   Florida State (ACC Rep) vs. Penn State (Big Ten Rep)

So nearly everything changes here. Oklahoma wins the Big 12 and heads to the Sugar, where they should face someone other than an SEC team because they don't deserve the spot, but Auburn stays ahead of Florida and LSU to claim the berth. Washington goes to the Rose where they face Michigan, who pushes Penn State to the Orange. There, Louisville's two game losing streak drops the Cards below the Noles, even though FSU technically can't jump Louisville with the ACC's bowl-selection rules, so :wom:

there. The committee can't dump an undefeated WMU out of the Cotton in favor of Navy so the Boatrowers paddle their way south, where USC ends up ranked above Colorado and gets the last At-Large spot (and hopes that they'll move more tickets than the Buffs :shh:).

And the rest:

pre:

Outback Bowl	        Jan. 2	  Tampa, Fla.	         B1G vs. SEC        	Nebraska vs. Florida
TaxSlayer Bowl	        Dec. 31   Jacksonville, Fla.	 ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	North Carolina vs. Texas A&M
Citrus Bowl	        Dec. 31	  Orlando, Fla.	         ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	Louisville vs. LSU
Arizona Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Tucson, Ariz.	         CUSA vs. MWC       	Idaho vs. Colorado State
Music City Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Nashville, Tenn.	 ACC/B1G vs. SEC    	Minnesota vs. Tennessee
Sun Bowl	        Dec. 30	  El Paso, Tex.	         ACC vs. P12        	Pitt vs. Utah
Liberty Bowl	        Dec. 30	  Memphis, Tenn.	 B12 vs. SEC        	Kansas State vs. Georgia
Alamo Bowl	        Dec. 29	  San Antonio, Tex.	 B12 vs. P12        	Oklahoma State vs. Colorado
Belk Bowl	        Dec. 29	  Charlotte, N.C.	 ACC vs. SEC        	Georgia Tech vs. Kentucky
Birmingham Bowl	        Dec. 29	  Birmingham, Ala.	 AAC vs. SEC            South Florida vs. South Carolina
Texas Bowl	        Dec. 28	  Houston, Tex.	         B12 vs. SEC        	TCU vs. Arkansas
Foster Farms Bowl	Dec. 28	  Santa Clara, Calif.	 B1G vs. P12        	Indiana vs. Stanford
Russell Athletic Bowl	Dec. 28	  Orlando, Fla.	         ACC vs. B12        	Virginia Tech vs. West Virginia
Pinstripe Bowl	        Dec. 28	  New York, N.Y.	 ACC vs. B1G        	Miami vs. Northwestern
Cactus Bowl	        Dec. 27	  Tempe, Ariz.	         B12 vs. P12            Baylor vs. Mississippi State*
Holiday Bowl	        Dec. 27	  San Diego, Calif.	 B1G vs. P12        	Iowa vs. Washington State
Military Bowl	        Dec. 27	  Annapolis, Md.	 ACC vs. AAC         	NC State vs. Memphis
Heart of Dallas Bowl	Dec. 27	  Dallas, Tex.	         B1G vs. CUSA           Army vs. Western Kentucky
Independence Bowl	Dec. 26	  Shreveport, La.	 SEC vs. ACC            Vanderbilt vs. Wake Forest
Quick Lane Bowl	        Dec. 26	  Detroit, Mich.	 ACC vs. B1G            Boston College vs. Maryland
St. Petersburg Bowl	Dec. 26	  St. Petersburg, Fla.   AAC vs ACC         	Temple vs. Southern Miss
Hawai'i Bowl	        Dec. 24	  Honolulu, Hawaii	 CUSA vs. MWC      	UTSA vs. Hawai'i
Dollar General Bowl	Dec. 23	  Mobile, Ala.	         MAC vs. SB	        Toledo vs. Troy
Armed Forces Bowl	Dec. 23	  Fort Worth, Tex.	 B12 vs. Navy           South Alabama vs. Navy
Bahamas Bowl	        Dec. 23	  Nassau, Bahamas	 CUSA vs. MAC           Louisiana Tech vs. Miami Ohio
Idaho Potato Bowl	Dec. 22	  Boise, Idaho	         MAC vs. MWC            Central Michigan vs. New Mexico
Poinsettia Bowl	        Dec. 21	  San Diego, Calif.	 MWC vs. BYU       	Boise State vs. BYU
Boca Raton Bowl	        Dec. 20	  Boca Raton, Fla.	 AAC vs. CUSA           Houston vs. Old Dominion
Miami Beach Bowl	Dec. 19	  Miami, Fla.	         AAC vs. MAC            Tulsa vs. Ohio
New Orleans Bowl	Dec. 17	  New Orleans, La.	 MWC vs. SB             Air Force vs. App State
Cure Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Orlando, Fla.	         AAC vs. SB             UCF vs. Louisiana-Lafayette
Camellia Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Montgomery, Ala.	 MAC vs. SB             Eastern Michigan vs. Arkansas State
Las Vegas Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Las Vegas, Nev.	 MWC vs. P12            San Diego State vs. North Texas*
New Mexico Bowl	        Dec. 17	  Albuquerque, N.M.	 CUSA vs. MWC           Middle Tennessee vs. Wyoming

We only need to dip twice into the APR pool, so North Texas and Mississippi State are the "smart" teams.

Great news for Iowa fans, you're not facing Stanford in the Holiday anymore! We're still looking at Black Diamond in the RAB, we end up with a bert/TCU runback in the Texas, and Louisville/LSU in the Citrus becomes a matchup of "will Lamar and Leonard actually play", which kinda affects how many shits I give about this game.

This is still wrong. It will always be wrong. Soon it won't matter how wrong it is. I'll do a what-if after the poll show on Tuesday, and then we'll let it ride once bowl announces start to trickle out next Saturday.

# ? Nov 27, 2016 20:33

MourningView: Sep 2, 2006; Is this Heaven?

It's a good thing San Diego has a shitload of beer because Iowa and Wazzu fans gonna try to drink all of it

# ? Nov 28, 2016 00:55

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

MourningView posted:

It's a good thing San Diego has a shitload of beer because Iowa and Wazzu fans gonna try to drink all of it

I thought the city was out of beer last year when Wisconsin came for the Holiday Bowl

# ? Nov 28, 2016 01:02

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

FWIW: Even with all the talk about PJ Fleck going somewhere else, I can't see any result in the MAC Championship other than Western completely curb stomping Ohio.

# ? Nov 28, 2016 01:04

Thermos H Christ: Sep 6, 2007; WINNINGEST BEVO

I thought I read that Texas is not allowed to decline a bowl invite per B12 rules, in the unlikely event that we get one as an APR team. That could get interesting, since we have no coaching staff. The extra practices sound nice except there's not really anyone to run them, and Herman presumably wants to spend this time hiring assistants and recruiting. But if we did play in a bowl and D'Onta Foreman matched his per-game average for this season, he would break Ricky Williams' record for single-season rushing yards at Texas and move up to #6 on the all-time list. #5 if he could get 7 yards above his average.

# ? Nov 28, 2016 15:32

HOTLANTA MAN: Jul 4, 2010; by Hand Knit; Lipstick Apathy

Oh good I get a full month of UGA's athletic department trying to sell me on Liberty Bowl tickets.

Can't wait to watch the Commodores perform Brick House in a crumbling stadium while Kansas State beats us by 24!

# ? Nov 28, 2016 15:36

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

Final run of moon poll prediction:

pre:

Conference Winners - 

ACC - Clemson (12-1) over Virginia Tech (9-4) - No change.
Big 10 - Wisconsin (11-2) over Penn State (10-3) - No change.
Big 12 - Oklahoma (10-2) - No change.
Pac 12 - Washington (12-1) over Colorado (10-3) - Since Colorado obvs beat Utah.
SEC - Alabama (13-0) over Florida (8-5) - No change.

AAC - Navy (11-2) over Temple (9-4) - No change.
CUSA - Western Kentucky (10-3) over Louisiana Tech (8-5) - No change.
MAC - Western Michigan (13-0) over Ohio (8-5) - No change.
MWC - San Diego State (10-3) over Wyoming (8-5) - SDSU jumped to favorites with the Wyoming loss.
SunBelt - Troy (10-2) - This implies a three-way tie for first, I'm just putting Troy here.  It's irrelevant to bowl placement anyway.

*************************************

Playoffs - 

#1 Alabama (13-0)
#2 Clemson (12-1)
#3 Wisconsin (11-2)
#4 Washington (12-1)


First four out: Ohio State (12-1), Michigan (10-2), Penn State (10-3), Oklahoma (10-2)

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NY6 Bowls - 

Orange		Louisville		Ohio State
Cotton		Western Michigan	Michigan
Rose		Colorado		Penn State
Sugar		Oklahoma		Florida


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Mere Mortal Bowls - 

Alamo		Oklahoma State		USC
Arizona		Colorado State		Idaho
Armed Forces	Navy			Middle Tennessee*
Bahamas		Eastern Michigan	North Texas+
Belk		Georgia Tech		Tennessee
Birmingham	Tulsa			Vanderbilt
Boca Raton	Memphis			Old Dominion
Cactus		Baylor			California
Camellia	Central Michigan	Appalachian State
Citrus		Virginia Tech		Auburn
Cure		UCF			South Alabama^
Foster Farms	Northwestern		Stanford
Dollar General	Toledo			Troy
Hawaii		Western Kentucky	Boise State
Heart of Dallas	Louisiana Tech		Army+
Holiday		Minnesota		Washington State
Independence	Boston College		South Carolina
Las Vegas	San Diego State		Arizona State
Liberty		Kansas State		Arkansas
Miami Beach	Houston			Ohio U
Military	Temple			Wake Forest
Music City	Iowa			Kentucky
New Mexico	UTSA			New Mexico
New Orleans	Southern Miss		Arkansas State
Outback		Nebraska		LSU
Pinstripe	Pittsburgh		Maryland
Poinsettia	BYU			Wyoming
Potato		Miami (OH)		Air Force
QuickLane	Indiana			Hawaii+
Russell Ath.	North Carolina		West Virginia
St. Petersburg	South Florida		NC State
Sun		Florida State		Utah
TaxSlayer	Miami (FL)		Georgia
Texas		TCU			Texas A&M

* denotes non-slotted bowl-eligible teams
^ denotes teams in via a 6-6 record with two FCS victories.  These guys get slotted after the *s.
+ denotes 5-7 teams eligible via APR

# ? Nov 28, 2016 16:05

HOTLANTA MAN: Jul 4, 2010; by Hand Knit; Lipstick Apathy

I kinda wanted to do a few of these little write ups I had brewing in my head so why not start with this. Let me know if I should add anything to these.

Sad Bowl Spotlight: The Dollar General Bowl

At a Glance: Formerly the GMAC bowl, then the GoDaddy Bowl, in the BCS days this was the last game before the national championship. It's typically known for being a matchup of MAC/Fun Belt teams with all offense and purely optional defense, and usually has okay ratings because people realize they're quickly running out of college football.

Most memorable game: 2001 GMAC Bowl. Byron Leftwich leads Marshall back from 21 down to win 64-61 in OT. At the time it was the highest scoring bowl game in history.

Notable Events: the Tuesday before the game,both teams are hitting up a bowling alley!

Dollar General Bowl Website posted:

The competition heats up as the bowl teams head to Camellia Bowling lanes. The two visiting football teams will take off the cleats and grab the bowling shoes as they compete for the Dollar General Bowl Bowling Championship Trophy! The night of fun, friendly competition, and entertainment will end with the presentation of the Dollar General Bowl Bowling Championship trophy.

Payout: 750k

Venue:: Ladd-Peebles Stadium. It seats only about 30k and looks more like a set from Friday Night Tykes than an actual college football field.

Player Gifts: they haven't said but this was last year:

quote:

Timely Watch Co. watch; Sol Republic Punk speakers (ed note: I have these and they're rear end); 32-quart Lit cooler; Wilson official souvenir game ball

Since it's now sponsored by Dollar General I'm hoping they just get a Dollar General shopping spree. Enjoy all the cough medicine and AA batteries you could ever want!

Projection: Ohio vs Troy

# ? Nov 28, 2016 16:09

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

Old Dominion is our first non-Navy/BYU team locked into a bowl, as for the Monarchs first ever bowl game they're being deported to our most glorious Popeyes Bahamas Bowl. I'm expecting great things for them now.

Also some heavy rumblings about Kentucky going Belking, but nothing official.

# ? Nov 28, 2016 20:17

Tank44: Jun 13, 2005; We want the ball & We're going to score

I'm not a fan of the bowl rotations when the Peach/Fiesta are the semis since all the others seem to have nearly full conference commitments and those 2 are 2 of the 3 with just "at large" spots available. This year if a 2nd Pac12 team were to make the NY6 (non CFP) then the only option is the Cotton Bowl. As result, looking at the Pac12 championship game. Colorado is likely going to the Rose Bowl win or lose. Washington wins should get them into the CFP but a Washington loss would assumingly move them to the Cotton as I doubt they drop out of the top 10 (but possible). That would then be a 2nd year in a row for Washington to go to Dallas to play a non-Power conference team (last year they played in the Heart of Dallas bowl against Southern Miss).

# ? Nov 28, 2016 20:49

HOTLANTA MAN: Jul 4, 2010; by Hand Knit; Lipstick Apathy

I'll do the Independence Bowl later but why does any team have to be punished by going to Shreveport?

# ? Nov 28, 2016 20:59

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Tank44 posted:

I'm not a fan of the bowl rotations when the Peach/Fiesta are the semis since all the others seem to have nearly full conference commitments and those 2 are 2 of the 3 with just "at large" spots available. This year if a 2nd Pac12 team were to make the NY6 (non CFP) then the only option is the Cotton Bowl. As result, looking at the Pac12 championship game. Colorado is likely going to the Rose Bowl win or lose. Washington wins should get them into the CFP but a Washington loss would assumingly move them to the Cotton as I doubt they drop out of the top 10 (but possible). That would then be a 2nd year in a row for Washington to go to Dallas to play a non-Power conference team (last year they played in the Heart of Dallas bowl against Southern Miss).

Its hard to say 100%, I mean USC is ranked right below them in the AP and 2 spots below them in the coaches. If Colorado gets blown out, I could see them falling below USC

Also, there really needs to be a Pac/SEC bowl. Its dumb that they basically never play

# ? Nov 28, 2016 21:18

HOTLANTA MAN: Jul 4, 2010; by Hand Knit; Lipstick Apathy

The Glumslinger posted:

Also, there really needs to be a Pac/SEC bowl. Its dumb that they basically never play

Bowls wouldn't touch that matchup due to attendance. Putting it on the east coast means PAC12 fans wouldn't travel and vice versa. Putting it in a heartland state kills travel on both ends because it's still a sizable distance and they're called flyover states for a reason

# ? Nov 28, 2016 22:43

C. Everett Koop: Aug 18, 2008

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Bowls wouldn't touch that matchup due to attendance. Putting it on the east coast means PAC12 fans wouldn't travel and vice versa. Putting it in a heartland state kills travel on both ends because it's still a sizable distance and they're called flyover states for a reason

You might have a shot at turning the Sun, a P12/ACC matchup, into a P12/SEC one, but I can't think of a destination outside of Texas that would have a chance at be worth a drat.

# ? Nov 28, 2016 23:39

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At Tom Herman's press conference with UT brass, he said that if Texas gets invited to a bowl game, they'll consider going. I'm guessing it all depends on where they would go, and considering it would either be DFW or central Florida, that's a built-in recruiting trip right there.

# ? Nov 29, 2016 01:37

KICK BAMA KICK: Mar 2, 2009

Thermos H Christ posted:

I thought I read that Texas is not allowed to decline a bowl invite per B12 rules, in the unlikely event that we get one as an APR team.

I was curious about this, didn't see anyone saying definitely this is or isn't true; this from Burnt Orange Nation including a skim of the comments just makes it sound like it's the school's decision like anywhere else, and the school sounds like it's giving the choice to Tom Herman.

# ? Nov 29, 2016 01:49

KICK BAMA KICK: Mar 2, 2009

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Sad Bowl Spotlight: The Dollar General Bowl

This is very cool (might want to add the city to your template). And Mobile's a perfectly fun place to kill a day or two -- I wouldn't call it a vacation destination but if your team's in this one, you wanna get drunk somewhere with relatively liberal public consumption laws downtown in a place that probably isn't colder than where you are, go for it.

# ? Nov 29, 2016 01:53

pillsburysoldier: Feb 11, 2008; Yo, peep that shit

https://mobile.twitter.com/OrangeBowl/status/803355606656630784

Been tweetin' a lot about FSU

Would be a Dalvin homecoming too

# ? Nov 29, 2016 01:53

Henchman of Santa: Aug 21, 2010

Eastern Michigan is the third directional Michigan to go to the Bahamas in three years. Hell yeah.

Also, re: Navy, I believe the committee is forced to hold off on the Cotton Bowl bid if Western loses and see the result of Army-Navy, but even if the Middies lose, which potential conference champion jumps them? San Diego State? It's not going to be Ohio or anyone from the Sun Belt or CUSA.

# ? Nov 29, 2016 15:11

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Henchman of Santa posted:

Also, re: Navy, I believe the committee is forced to hold off on the Cotton Bowl bid if Western loses and see the result of Army-Navy, but even if the Middies lose, which potential conference champion jumps them? San Diego State? It's not going to be Ohio or anyone from the Sun Belt or CUSA.

Western's already a 19 point favorite over Ohio, but yeah if by some miracle they lose, seems pretty locked that Navy's gonna be the G5 rep.

E: oh jeez I completely forgot Navy plays Temple this week.

# ? Nov 29, 2016 15:12

dirty shrimp money: Jan 8, 2001

https://twitter.com/EMUAthletics/status/803572257159348224

dirty shrimp money fucked around with this message at 15:46 on Nov 29, 2016

# ? Nov 29, 2016 15:43

Nissin Cup Nudist: Sep 3, 2011; Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land

Henchman of Santa posted:

Eastern Michigan is the third directional Michigan to go to the Bahamas in three years. Hell yeah.

Also, re: Navy, I believe the committee is forced to hold off on the Cotton Bowl bid if Western loses and see the result of Army-Navy, but even if the Middies lose, which potential conference champion jumps them? San Diego State? It's not going to be Ohio or anyone from the Sun Belt or CUSA.

the team that beat then, the Temple fighting Owls

# ? Nov 29, 2016 15:56

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

Korranus posted:

https://twitter.com/EMUAthletics/status/803572257159348224

god I love these videos :3:

# ? Nov 29, 2016 15:59

Real Name Grover: Feb 13, 2002; Like corn on the cob; Fan of Britches

Now let's see one of those for the Quick Lane Bowl

# ? Nov 29, 2016 16:09

HOTLANTA MAN: Jul 4, 2010; by Hand Knit; Lipstick Apathy

Bad Bowl Game Spotlight: The Camping World Independence Bowl

At a Glance: Sponsored historically by such venerable entrepreneurs as Advocare's V100 line of fake supplements and POULAN WEEDEATERS, The Camping World Independence Bowl is widely regarded as a symbol of how dreadful and boring bowl season can be (yet another loving ACC/SEC tie in), yet also how hilarious their sponsorships can be. In 2014 it was sponsored by loving DUCK COMMANDER, and the Duck Dynasty dudes plugged it on their show and did all the pregame poo poo. In 2005 a chain of "gentlemen's clubs" called Deja Vu offered to sponsor the game and were for some unfathomable reason denied. Most importantly, it has perhaps the worst venue of all bowl games...

Host city: Shreveport, Louisiana. This place is a loving DUMP. The city has a massive crystal meth problem, average income is like 20 bucks, there is nothing to do (besides meth), there are more evangelical churches than people to use them, and the most common store chain is a place I've never been to called THIS SPACE FOR RENT. Some more fun facts: Sam Cooke was arrested in Shreveport in '63 for trying to stay at a whites-only Holiday Inn, leading to "A Change is Gonna Come" and implementation of the Civil Rights Act. It's also one of the last holdouts of riverboat gambling. Forums poster HOTLANTA MAN attended the 2009 Independence Bowl between Georgia and Texas A&M, was propositioned for crystal meth twice, had a homeless man offer to suck his dick for a ride to the airport, and had his car broken into. NOTHING WAS STOLEN.

Most memorable game:

wikipedia posted:

the 2000 "snow bowl" game between Texas A&M and Mississippi State. The game was originally publicized as a reunion game, since Mississippi State coach Jackie Sherrill had served as A&M's coach for six seasons in the 1980s and led them to three conference titles. However, the weather quickly dominated the storyline as a rare and significant snowstorm hit Shreveport. In the midst of the snow, Mississippi State rallied to an overtime win over A&M.

Seriously go watch a highlight, it was a loving blizzard.

Also, last year was Frank Beamer's last game

Notable Events: Hooboy, we've got some doozies:

Friday, December 23rd: a "Big Game Show" Arrival party. Both teams will partake in Game Show styled events that remind me of when your substitute civics teacher in high school made you group off and play Jeopardy

Saturday, December 24th: a prayer breakfast sponsored by the loving Shreveport FCA

Noon of gameday: a Coca-cola fanfest which features "inflatable games and more"

Welcome to Shreveport, here's a ballpit

Payout: 1.1 million

Venue: Independence Stadium

It mostly hosts high school games and the South endzone borders I-20 so if you're sitting over there enjoy listening to the dulcet sounds of '94 civics backfiring instead of a football game

I also like the no-effort "Welcome to Shreveport" banner

Player Gifts: 2015's was a "Gift suite; Timely Watch Co. watch; New Era knit skull cap; commemorative football". So basically you just got a PS4 from the gift suite, a watch, a cap and a football with a Duck Commando logo on it. Cool.

Projection: South Carolina vs NC State

HOTLANTA MAN fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Nov 29, 2016

# ? Nov 29, 2016 16:40

DJExile: Jun 28, 2007

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

Forums poster HOTLANTA MAN attended the 2009 Independence Bowl between Georgia and Texas A&M, was propositioned for crystal meth twice, had a homeless man offer to suck his dick for a ride to the airport, and had his car broken into. NOTHING WAS STOLEN.

holy poo poo hahahahaha

# ? Nov 29, 2016 16:44

Real Name Grover: Feb 13, 2002; Like corn on the cob; Fan of Britches

HOTLANTA MAN posted:

"A Change is Gonna Come" and implementation of the Civil Rights Act

OK, so two good things have kinda come out of that shitdump (which, for the record, I have done no more than drive through).

But congrats on setting the bar for these man, now do the other 40-whatever bowls

# ? Nov 29, 2016 16:46

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 09:19

HOTLANTA MAN: Jul 4, 2010; by Hand Knit; Lipstick Apathy

Real Name Grover posted:

OK, so two good things have kinda come out of that shitdump (which, for the record, I have done no more than drive through).

But congrats on setting the bar for these man, now do the other 40-whatever bowls

Appreciate it, I'm gonna do one more tonight then probably find another bad bowl a day until around Christmas when they actually start.

Thinking the Bahamas Bowl since other than being in the Bahamas it's kind of lovely.

# ? Nov 29, 2016 16:51

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