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This slap fight is silly. One can criticize Key and Peele without having to go into their experience as black people.
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blackguy32 posted:This slap fight is silly. One can criticize Key and Peele without having to go into their experience as black people. Which is extra funny because this is the Negrotown thread, which is a Key and Peele sketch.
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Nov 24, 2016 19:15
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Fluffdaddy posted:Which is extra funny because this is the Negrotown thread, which is a Key and Peele sketch.  My redtext is not a poor waste of petty cash but a warning to not get meta.
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Nov 24, 2016 19:18
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 Looks like we are taking over every sport, even internationally. This young man from Texas just joined the lowest division of Sumo. Hopefully in the next few years he will make it up the ranks.
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Nov 24, 2016 19:23
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Fluffdaddy posted:
Can we put him in the next Negrotown thread's OP? Can we get someone to direct his biopic?
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Nov 24, 2016 19:27
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botany posted:Is there a list or a blog or whatever out there that collects all the instances of racist casting decisions in Hollywood movies? From blackface / yellowface to whitewashing, i.e. let's cast Tom Cruise as the last samurai also all our Egyptians are now played by British men. I realize this isn't really a question specific to the black experience in the US but I figured this would be the best place to ask. Stumbled across this video, I don't know about channels but I think this is a pretty good start to researching racism in Hollywood. Don't really follow blogs, but Black on Black Cinema (it's a really good podcast) analyzes films and talks about them from both a cinematic and from a black perspective, also since I'm talking about podcasts Friends Like Us is another good one more about comedy, with a round table of black woman comics and one guest. There is a lot of range on the podcast from interviewing news casters to other comics in the scene.
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Nov 24, 2016 19:30
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teen witch posted:Can we put him in the next Negrotown thread's OP? Can we get someone to direct his biopic? I believe he is part Japanese, cause his name is Ichiro Young, unless his parents were super into the Mariners or something. He will be going by the sumo name Wakaichiro, or "Young Ichiro" 
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Nov 24, 2016 19:31
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Fluffdaddy posted:I believe he is part Japanese, cause his name is Ichiro Young, unless his parents were super into the Mariners or something. That guy is awesome: http://tachiai.wordpress.com/2016/11/15/ichiro-young-kyushu-recruit/amp/?client=safari quote:Tachiai is excited to report that Ichiro Young, from the great state of Texas, is competing in Kyushu. At the age of 18, he has been training with the Musashigawa Beya (武蔵川部屋), and is hoping to be accepted during Kyushu. 
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Nov 24, 2016 19:35
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Trabisnikof posted:That guy is awesome: http://tachiai.wordpress.com/2016/11/15/ichiro-young-kyushu-recruit/amp/?client=safari I love Sumo and it is nice to have an up and comer to look forward to in about 5 or 6 years that looks like me.
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Nov 24, 2016 19:46
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My red title explains my feelings on red titles.
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Nov 24, 2016 19:48
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Nude posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VR2nuN3Oo4 Thank you for this post 
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Nov 24, 2016 19:59
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Fluffdaddy posted:
Gotta add him and Miss Japan, who is black and Japanese. Fluffdaddy posted:Which is extra funny because this is the Negrotown thread, which is a Key and Peele sketch. Right. But Negrotown at the end of the day didn't require nuance, just like, 15 minutes of reading about the black experience in America. That skit wasn't so much deep as it was a wake up call for their white audience. Fluffdaddy posted:drat that loving red text. Another one. I'm betting dollars to donuts that black people raised in the suburbs isolated from other black people don't suddenly opt to live in a majority black neighborhoods or attend HBCUs. For example, my younger brother does not have any of the life experiences I have, due to me being shuffled off to various relatives in the city, even after my mom moved to the suburbs with him and my sister. He's been exposed to precisely zero black people in his daily life outside of family until he went to college, and that college is University of Oklahoma, which also has a tiny black population. He does not have the range of black experience that I do. Doesn't make him less black. He just doesn't have the range. Period. Y'all seem awfully hurt by that fact, and sound a lot like the suburban white folks you grew up around when confronted with it.
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Nov 24, 2016 21:21
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negromancer posted:I'm betting dollars to donuts that black people raised in the suburbs isolated from other black people don't suddenly opt to live in a majority black neighborhoods or attend HBCUs. I literally did this.
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Nov 24, 2016 21:36
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negromancer posted:HBCU What's this stand for?
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Nov 24, 2016 21:43
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botany posted:What's this stand for? Historically Black Colleges and Universities
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Nov 24, 2016 21:44
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Koalas March posted:I literally did this. It's pretty rare. People follow their friends and family, and more importantly, their socioeconomic class.
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Nov 24, 2016 21:44
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negromancer posted:It's pretty rare. People follow their friends and family, and more importantly, their socioeconomic class. How do you know its pretty rare? Imma need to see some receipts. negromancer posted:Y'all seem awfully hurt by that fact, and sound a lot like the suburban white folks you grew up around when confronted with it. And again, I grew up in the country. Tell me how that is less the black experience than growing up in the city.
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Nov 24, 2016 21:55
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Trabisnikof posted:Historically Black Colleges and Universities Aaaah the "and" tripped me up, thanks.
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Nov 24, 2016 21:56
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negromancer posted:It's pretty rare. People follow their friends and family, and more importantly, their socioeconomic class. I get it but it was my (white) grandmother that moved me into a black middle class neighborhood. I'm grateful for it. I think it can go both ways. I was isolated in upper middle class white suburbia except for when I visited certain family members, got my hair done etc. It was really nice to move to a place where it was 90% black folks. I was briefly a cheerleader at my (white) middle school but that was the closest i ever got to fitting on. (Even though I still didn't fit in completely when I moved because I was 13 and going through an emo/scene phase. I still managed to be semi popular at least.)
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Nov 24, 2016 21:58
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Fluffdaddy posted:How do you know its pretty rare? Imma need to see some receipts. And again, tell me where I said less. I said RANGE. Living in the suburbs isolated from seeing a multitude of black and brown faces prevents you from seeing a RANGE of black experiences. Like, y'all seem really hurt by this and you might should take that up with your parents.
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Nov 24, 2016 22:24
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negromancer posted:And again, tell me where I said less. You are being a huge douchebag right now and you should stop.
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Nov 24, 2016 22:25
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You are being a huge douchebag right now and you should stop. Nothing douchebag about it. I don't like people putting words in my mouth. People want to argue a strawman and I ain't got the time for it. 
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Nov 24, 2016 22:31
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negromancer posted:And again, tell me where I said less. And your knowledge is limited as well, and you're literally telling black folks that their experience isn't enough because it doesn't have the breadth of yours or mine. Think about that poo poo and how hosed up that is to say. Do you think some poor kid off the Pearl River in Mississippi, who is surrounded by nothing but other black people and has never lived in a major metropolitan is also suffering from not having a "range" of black experiences too, because they didn't get the privilege of travelling different places? For all the talk of unity and the diversity of black life in this country, you sure are quick to create a "right" way to live or experience black culture and a "wrong" way, or range or whatever hosed up justification you are creating. Literally the only requirement for having the black experience in America is being black in America.
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Nov 24, 2016 22:34
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And furthermore, it is pretty tough for kids growing up in the suburbs with no black peers. Can you imagine being surrounded by so much whiteness your entire life and trying everything you can to have a normal childhood and then growing up and finding yourself not only treated like every other black person in this country and then having someone like you going. "Heh, you haven't really experienced blackness like me, because you haven't had the same struggles or range of experiences as me, guy who was surround by black people his whole life and was insulated from being over exposed to white people" Edit: And one last loving thing. What part of the black experience is a suburban black kid missing that other more "experienced" black people have? Was it crushing racism? Nope. Overwhelming isolation? Nope. Ability to connect with and approach other black people? Nope. Money is literally the only difference. And middle class money doesn't shield you from poo poo in white society. Fluffdaddy fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Nov 24, 2016 |
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Nov 24, 2016 22:38
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blackguy32 posted:This slap fight is silly. One can criticize Key and Peele without having to go into their experience as black people. Yeah, I definitely think they miss a lot. I definitely get a weird vibe from things like the East-West game skit, even though I generally enjoy it. But then other things like the substitute teacher and the black Republicans sketch work. They're imperfect comedians, as we all are. But yeah, we need to quit with talk of inauthenticity. It's not like if every corny rear end mulatto in America was suddenly filled with the heart of Marcus Garvey that white supremacy would fold like a house of cards.
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Nov 24, 2016 22:52
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Fluffdaddy posted:And your knowledge is limited as well, and you're literally telling black folks that their experience isn't enough because it doesn't have the breadth of yours or mine. Literally just said that black people living isolated from other black people have a limited range in experiencing the diversity of blackness compared to black people who live around mostly other black people. Not even sure how this is debatable. Y'all sound like white people arguing that they know black folks because they have a black friend. Stop making up strawman and address what I'm saying or keep it moving. Fluffdaddy posted:And furthermore, it is pretty tough for kids growing up in the suburbs with no black peers. Can you imagine being surrounded by so much whiteness your entire life and trying everything you can to have a normal childhood and then growing up and finding yourself not only treated like every other black person in this country and then having someone like you going. "Heh, you haven't really experienced blackness like me, because you haven't had the same struggles or range of experiences as me, guy who was surround by black people his whole life and was insulated from being over exposed to white people" Sounds like someone who still hasn't connected with black people outside the suburbs, if you think this is the case. I never felt isolated. Hell, I'm from the Midwest. Grew up in the city of Chicago. I live in Atlanta now and I'm learning things about blackness in the South, because surprise, I wasn't exposed to it in any meaningful quantity growing up. If I go to rural Mississippi, black people are going to be different there than they are in Atlanta and much more different than Chicago. It's the range and diversity of black experience. If you aren't exposed to a variety of black people across ages, nationalities, and settings, your range of the black experience will be limited. Y'all sound hurt and it sounds like you need to take it up with your parents, if your argument is "I am black, therefore I know the totality and range of black experience". Must be that suburban black logic.
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I had strongly considered going to an HCBU, and ultimately chose a higher ranked engineering school, because that was more swinging for the fences to me. Going to an HCBU would have fit into my Cosby Show dreams, though. But the fact that it seemed better to me to take Caltech over Morehouse is the problem of the legacy of segregation, not a failure of the HCBUs. Ideally there wouldn't even have to be such an idea, because black people would have been integrated into society to begin with. It'd be about as important as a historically German school.
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Nov 24, 2016 23:00
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negromancer posted:
Yes, that's what it is. Those burbs down in Bama with a population of 4000 people. Tiny Brontosaurus posted:You are being a huge douchebag right now and you should stop.
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foobardog posted:I had strongly considered going to an HCBU, and ultimately chose a higher ranked engineering school, because that was more swinging for the fences to me. Going to an HCBU would have fit into my Cosby Show dreams, though. This I agree with. It's hard to go to a HBCU that can compete with PWIs, due to a social mentality that leads to people asking the same questions like "Why do we have a Black History Month" or "why does BET exist?" It's hard to get donations and have that level of endowments in a society that doesn't even think you should exist in the first place.
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Nov 24, 2016 23:06
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Fluffdaddy posted:Yes, that's what it is. Those burbs down in Bama with a population of 4000 people. And you think your experience is the same as mine? Or encountered the same variety of experiences I did? Or, maybe, just maybe, you could try reading what's written by me and get out of your feelings?
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Nov 24, 2016 23:08
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negromancer posted:And you think your experience is the same as mine? Or encountered the same variety of experiences I did? Of course it is different. The point is is that you were trying to make it sound like it was "less" not as much in "depth" which is wrong.
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Fluffdaddy posted:Of course it is different. The point is is that you were trying to make it sound like it was "less" not as much in "depth" which is wrong. I don't think he's saying his personal experience is more or less than someone else's, just that he's benefited from the experience of others who lived different lives than himself, so he has been exposed to a wider breadth of experiences. Since it started with K&P, imagine if they had never interacted or listened to the experiences of a black woman in America and then tried to do a skit on it. They've experienced being black as a guy, but that's different in some ways to being black as a woman so they won't have stories or anecdotes to draw on to give a more accurate picture of the experience. But if they had been around black women and heard what they experience and how it makes them feel, the skit would ring more true. At least that's what I've taken from his posts, but I may be wrong.
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Fluffdaddy posted:Of course it is different. The point is is that you were trying to make it sound like it was "less" not as much in "depth" which is wrong. So you basically chose not to actually read what I wrote, but instead added your own feelings. And then expect me to be okay with that and defend what you made up in your head I meant? Ok fam. Karl Sharks posted:I don't think he's saying his personal experience is more or less than someone else's, just that he's benefited from the experience of others who lived different lives than himself, so he has been exposed to a wider breadth of experiences. Pretty much exactly what I'm saying, but folks are hypersensitive about the fact that everyone they went to school with is on some #AllLivesMatter poo poo and that's my fault somehow that they weren't exposed to more black people growing up, and now they think I'm calling them fake black when I said nothing of the sort. Like I said, they need to take that up with their parents. I don't have poo poo to do with that.
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Karl Sharks posted:Since it started with K&P, imagine if they had never interacted or listened to the experiences of a black woman in America and then tried to do a skit on it. They've experienced being black as a guy, but that's different in some ways to being black as a woman so they won't have stories or anecdotes to draw on to give a more accurate picture of the experience. But if they had been around black women and heard what they experience and how it makes them feel, the skit would ring more true. K&P do drag sketches a lot and they are awful and basically gender minstrelsy, and "being around women" doesn't help that any more than "being around" black people would excuse blackface, and wtf do you think being suburban and black is anyway that they wouldn't have been around black women? One of those famous mens-only suburbs of Detroit? smh midwesterners do break new ground in the field of segregation
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I really find it funny as poo poo that this started and got blown up from me stating it's dumb as poo poo for him to say something like Get Out couldn't be done well by a mixed suburban black dude. Like all of this was me just stating Get Out looks good and defending just that specific movie. I didn't even really like Key and Peele's show and wasn't speaking to anything beyond Peele's movie. Dexo fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Nov 25, 2016 |
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Nov 25, 2016 02:06
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Negrotown: We'll need to check your credentials (Ask your parents)
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Hey is there where i post for the free title change?
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Nov 25, 2016 02:55
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In other news: White liberals are up in arms about the fact that black, brown, and LGBT people are saying "gently caress this poo poo" and arming themselves. They aren't happy. Apparently we're all supposed to get lynched in the name of their ideological purity, including a few "MLK wouldn't have wanted this," forgetting the man had a virtual arsenal in his house after an attempted firebombing.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:K&P do drag sketches a lot and they are awful and basically gender minstrelsy, and "being around women" doesn't help that any more than "being around" black people would excuse blackface, and wtf do you think being suburban and black is anyway that they wouldn't have been around black women? One of those famous mens-only suburbs of Detroit? smh midwesterners do break new ground in the field of segregation Nobody said just because you're exposed to something you instantly understand it completely and never make mistakes related to it, but you have a better chance than someone who isn't exposed to it. Imagine if you kept someone completely isolated, hermetically sealed in a room. Then you let them out into the world and they'd catch an illness almost immediately and be in deep poo poo. Does that mean people who walk around and interact with others never get sick? No, but they have a stronger immune system than someone who was isolated. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Karl Sharks posted:Nobody said just because you're exposed to something you instantly understand it completely and never make mistakes related to it, but you have a better chance than someone who isn't exposed to it. I was quoting something specific, but sure, let's engage your weird thought experiement where being black but not as black as negromancer feels himself to be is equated with living in a hermetically sealed room. That is in no way hosed up!
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