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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I was quoting something specific, but sure, let's engage your weird thought experiement where being black but not as black as negromancer feels himself to be is equated with living in a hermetically sealed room. That is in no way hosed up! Then I'll be more specific; do you think more or less exposure to the experiences of women would have reduced the likelihood that K&P did an offensive drag sketch?
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negromancer posted:In other news: As somebody planning on arming himself for protection from homophobic attacks I've definitely heard some of the handwringing but I'm curious what negative statements you are seeing in the article itself, to me it looks like pretty neutral reporting on what is happening. Also I am impressed with that one woman carrying a crowbar in her purse that is a lot of weight to be hauling around all the time.
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Karl Sharks posted:Then I'll be more specific; do you think more or less exposure to the experiences of women would have reduced the likelihood that K&P did an offensive drag sketch? The utter absence of understanding of what I said about K&P's drag sketches does not make me feel the slightest inclination to engage with you on this. Please read it again, or maybe just drink bleach, because I am not even loving dignifying this poo poo further. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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negromancer posted:In other news: You'd think liberals would be all for it since nothing would have your average conservative 2nd amendment nutjob backpedaling and shrieking for gun control faster than minorities arming themselves. 
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The ideology eater posted:As somebody planning on arming himself for protection from homophobic attacks I've definitely heard some of the handwringing but I'm curious what negative statements you are seeing in the article itself, to me it looks like pretty neutral reporting on what is happening. Not all crowbars are the same. What they are calling a crowbar is probably a cats paw, which is like a 10 inch crowbar. You really can't use it for poo poo but car doors and doors the average person would be able to kick in anyways. I mean, I have one and I use them as part of a jimmy kit. Speaking of which, if you ever have to help someone that locked themselves out of their car, a blood pressure cuff is the best tool to have. Just wedge that poo poo in between the door and the frame and pump away until you have enough space to get a hanger or a shim in there (if you don't know how to jimmy a car lock or it's a newer vehicle).
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Cop Porn Popper posted:You'd think liberals would be all for it since nothing would have your average conservative 2nd amendment nutjob backpedaling and shrieking for gun control faster than minorities arming themselves. Hell, isn't this what happened int he 60-70s with the BLack Panthers?
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BigRed0427 posted:Hell, isn't this what happened int he 60-70s with the BLack Panthers? It's how we got Ronnie Regan, patron saint of gun control in California.
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I wish I owned a gun store in America A Democrat in office? Gonna make a ton selling bullets to rednecks who think Obummer is going to take their ammo Republican? Gonna make a ton selling guns to minorities
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Cop Porn Popper posted:A wooden wedge works too, but is more damaging. Yeah, a wooden wedge is what most AAA tow trucks will use, and that will absolutely gently caress up the paint on your door, by sheer force of friction. A blood pressure cuff slides right in without all of that mess. Marijuana Nihilist posted:I wish I owned a gun store in America Wait, they believe Obama was going to take just the ammo?
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look man, I don't get the logic behind it either but according to Wikipedia, there were actual ammunition shortages from 2008 to 2013, probably because of frightened gun nuts stocking up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008%E2%80%9313_United_States_ammunition_shortage quote:Most people attributed the ammunition shortage to reaction of gun owners and other groups to the election of U.S. President Barack Obama, claiming that these people fear more restrictive gun laws, ammunition taxes, and social decay.[8] An October 2009 Gallup poll found that "Many Gun Owners Think Obama Will Try to Ban Gun Sales" completely,[9] and similar themes were struck in an Associated Press report: "Shooting ranges, gun dealers, and bullet manufacturers say they have never seen such shortages." The Gallup report said, "although the survey did not ask directly whether those who hold the belief that Obama wants to ban gun sales have acted on that belief in terms of increased purchases of guns and ammunition, a connection between the belief and the behavior is a logical hypothesis." edit: I guess most of the people stocking up on ammo already had a sizeable collection of firearms Marijuana Nihilist fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Nov 25, 2016 |
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Some days I wish Obama would have actually done all the poo poo conspiracy nuts accuse him of secretly planning to do.
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negromancer posted:Some days I wish Obama would have actually done all the poo poo conspiracy nuts accuse him of secretly planning to do. There is still time for him to pardon Assata Shakur, so that part of his legacy is not "replaced Osama bin Laden with an elderly black woman on the most wanted terrorists list."
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negromancer posted:Wait, they believe Obama was going to take just the ammo? After he didn't steal their guns from their cold dead hands they thought Obama would steal their bullets instead. Not the brightest bunch
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Marijuana Nihilist posted:look man, I don't get the logic behind it either but according to Wikipedia, there were actual ammunition shortages from 2008 to 2013, probably because of frightened gun nuts stocking up: Also I know people who are out a ton of cash because they bought a bunch of stuff for resale during the inevitable post-Hillary-victory panic buy. PS thank you for recommending Luke Cage in this thread. It is a good show.
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Cop Porn Popper posted:You'd think liberals would be all for it since nothing would have your average conservative 2nd amendment nutjob backpedaling and shrieking for gun control faster than minorities arming themselves. Liberals only want to get rid of guns when they're in charge; somehow they don't realize that they won't always be in charge. The same people were wanting to get rid of the filibuster and were OK with Obama's expansion of executive powers, prosecution of whistle blowers, the growth of the surveillance state, etc.
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I'm against it cause they're about 50 times more likely to kill themselves or a family member or get killed or have someone steal it or 100 other bad permutations than they are to successfully use it to defend themselves. :edit: Like how many times did the original black panthers defend themselves vs get shot to death by cops while they slept?
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Huzanko posted:Liberals only want to get rid of guns when they're in charge; somehow they don't realize that they won't always be in charge. The same people were wanting to get rid of the filibuster and were OK with Obama's expansion of executive powers, prosecution of whistle blowers, the growth of the surveillance state, etc. That's an awfully broad brush you're drawing there in the liberal camp, and really, the average white NRA guy has very little to actually fear that their guns will protect them from. They aren't victims to hate crimes, they can open carry and reach for their holster in front of police and even then, even in a seemingly hostile act will be given the benefit of the doubt. 
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Maluco Marinero posted:That's an awfully broad brush you're drawing there in the liberal camp, and really, the average white NRA guy has very little to actually fear that their guns will protect them from. They aren't victims to hate crimes, they can open carry and reach for their holster in front of police and even then, even in a seemingly hostile act will be given the benefit of the doubt. Hell if you're an old white man you can literally fire a handgun at police and be taken in alive.
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Maluco Marinero posted:That's an awfully broad brush you're drawing there in the liberal camp, and really, the average white NRA guy has very little to actually fear that their guns will protect them from. They aren't victims to hate crimes, they can open carry and reach for their holster in front of police and even then, even in a seemingly hostile act will be given the benefit of the doubt. In fairness to this police officer, at this point he doesn't have draw advantage and desecalation is the only reasonable option. The actual injustice is that he almost certainly didn't get arrested afterwards for threatening an officer, like a black man absolutely would've at best.
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Hey Teen Witch, I'm originally from Sweden as well, and I was curious what your impressions are of us. Earlier in the thread it was mentioned that each country has it's flavor of racism, and I was wondering what your experience with the swedes are in that regard, if you are ok with sharing. I had a colleague who infuriatingly insisted on calling chocalate balls  for its racist name. Would be comical if not so pathetic.
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McCloud posted:Hey Teen Witch, I'm originally from Sweden as well, and I was curious what your impressions are of us. Earlier in the thread it was mentioned that each country has it's flavor of racism, and I was wondering what your experience with the swedes are in that regard, if you are ok with sharing. Absolut! Efter SFI, så senare. E: Or now, we ended early. So my impressions of Swedes is its a country thats trying to do the right thing. It doesn't have the heinously gory history that the USA has, which at times is really hard to remember. Outside of SD and Nordfront shitheads existing and breathing, the race relations seem to come from a place of naïvety. Like take raggare for instance. Anytime I've explained that the Confederate rag gives me same sickening reaction as the Nazi flag, most are really confused as to why. Like they think its way more Pan-American and a universal sign of rebellion vs. the horrifying history they most of the time don't know about or understand how deeply it hosed and continues to up a few million peoples lives. However, Swedes are more receptive to education and learning why its really lovely to use it. But on the other hand, they've pretty much never been confronted with why its hosed up and most Swedes come off as super conflict adverse. However, from when I visited in 2014 to moving in 2016, I've seen about 95% less of it around which is really comforting. I am living with my white Swedish partner in Eskilstuna, and that too has been...interesting. The living situation (pretty much domestic partners) is referred to as a....sambo  (though to be fair, it makes total sense. Sam = same, bo = reside. Living together). We've dated for nearly 4 years, and I moved here in May. His family really likes me, and I've had no problem in that regard, which was my biggest fear. Nearly everyone sees me as "his American girlfriend" and I can't even remember getting the "but where is your family from?" question from anyone. I've seen a whole lot more white dude-woman of color relationships here, which is really loving nice for once. These two articles (and there many more) ring very true for me. I went to a Dia Psalma show in Örebro twoish weeks ago and I've NEVER been hit on more by rando white dudes in my life. I'm an obese brown goth from Long Island, anytime a guy comes up to me and says something nice, it's a creepy catcaller or chubby chaser. Was some of it probably exoticization? Without a loving doubt. But coming from a country where you're deigned as unlovable, unwanted, and hideous or worse, """"sassy""""? It was probably one of the few times in my life I felt attractive and even better, confident. The only thing I felt that was weird is that my partner was at the show as well, and some of the guys were uh, not observant with boundaries. Also, regarding your colleague, I'm guessing you've seen this: Sunes Sommar. I've never seen it called the old name, but the reaction from Sune's dad is pretty much the naïvety-but-trying-hard sentiment. I'd also end this with that this experience is way loving different than the refugee experience and the Roma experience. teen witch fucked around with this message at 13:19 on Nov 25, 2016 |
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negromancer posted:In other news: At this point, I get more pissed at white liberals than conservatives and I know I shouldn't. It's irrational as hell but I can't help but feel moreanger directed at them.
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teen witch posted:Absolut! Efter SFI, så senare. Cool! Also, didn't know you're on SFI. What's your experience been with the course? Tell me eeeeverything! blackguy32 posted:At this point, I get more pissed at white liberals than conservatives and I know I shouldn't. It's irrational as hell but I can't help but feel moreanger directed at them. Nothing in that article mentions liberals being upset about minorities arming themselves. If anything, they'd be pretty happy about it, since nothing scares the racist rednecks more than a black man with a gun. Also that picture Maluco posted makes me seethe, if there were any justice in the world he'd be in jail for threatening an officer, bare minimum.
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McCloud posted:Cool! Also, didn't know you're on SFI. What's your experience been with the course? Tell me eeeeverything! SFI is tough but great! It's entirely immersive, and everything is taught in Swedish. I'm the only native English speaker there so I have a bit of a weird advantage, but most of the Arabic speakers and teachers can speak English as well. I'm also the only American. I can read Swedish pretty well, but writing and speaking makes me a smidge anxious. When I'm conscious of "I must speak Swedish now and everyone is judging" I'm terrible, but if its more natural and free flowing (ie: among friends or drunk), its way better. I've had great teachers, I really like the program as a whole.
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teen witch posted:SFI is tough but great! It's entirely immersive, and everything is taught in Swedish. I'm the only native English speaker there so I have a bit of a weird advantage, but most of the Arabic speakers and teachers can speak English as well. I'm also the only American. I can read Swedish pretty well, but writing and speaking makes me a smidge anxious. When I'm conscious of "I must speak Swedish now and everyone is judging" I'm terrible, but if its more natural and free flowing (ie: among friends or drunk), its way better. I've had great teachers, I really like the program as a whole. I'm happy it's working for you! I've heard some mixed opinions on SFI, mostly about that it is in fact only in Swedish. It's good in a way, but if you have folks who only speak arabic then it just adds an extra layer of difficulty. Would be great if they had teachers who knew english, arabic and swedish, but that's a bit of a tall order, I suppose. Also no one is judging, generally, and if they do, gently caress them, right? Everyone's gotta start somewhere. Have you experienced the curse of the english yet? Swedes are so excited when they meet a native english speaker they can't help but speak english themselves. You barely need to know swedish really, since the locals are more than happy to talk your ear off in english negromancer posted:Pretty much every liberal forum that has been talking about the article has had ton of liberal hand wringing. I hardly need to tell you this, but gently caress'em. It's a win win scenario. Either black people can defend themselves against white trash, or white trash get so scared they implement gun control laws again. If white liberals care so much they should have loving voted. Although to be fair, I'd wait with judging white liberals (on this matter at least) until actual politicians or influential people start making noise. I suspect the white liberals making noise on neogaf are the type who voted Sanders, and intersect a lot with liberterian views. McCloud fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Nov 25, 2016 |
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negromancer posted:Yeah, a wooden wedge is what most AAA tow trucks will use, and that will absolutely gently caress up the paint on your door, by sheer force of friction. I think AAA, at least around where I am, has switched over to the pump balloon things. I haven't seen a wedge in years. Also do you have a reference for MLK being a gun owner? I'm trying to convince my dad MLK wasn't the great pacifist he thinks he was.
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there wolf posted:I think AAA, at least around where I am, has switched over to the pump balloon things. I haven't seen a wedge in years. This book tells the story about the armed resistance part of the civil rights movement. This Nonviolent Stuff'll Get You Killed: How Guns Made the Civil Rights Movement Possible https://www.amazon.com/dp/082236123X/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_lKfoybYT2P85M And people forget about Malcolm X when he told about how it was getting to the point where black people were going to March on Washington and burn the capital to the ground, and that fear of violence is how we ended up with the March on Washington we have today. The only thing power fears is power. There is no power in declaring powerlessness. A lot of people think that seeing black people get hit with water hoses and having dogs put on them changed he heart of the majority of the country, but polling for whether the Civil Rights Movement was a good thing never broke 40%. It was the threat of violence that caused progress. That black people, upon seeing this brutality constantly and having family and property and homes willing to die to protect, would basically do a reverse Tulsa throughout the south.
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"My Black Friend" reality show where a group of black men compete to be the token black friend for a white guy. Good ending too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZJPtmI8W6s
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negromancer posted:This book tells the story about the armed resistance part of the civil rights movement. Thanks for the recommendation. But it may have gotten them to that 40% which means lawmakers could either gamble that increasingly violent actions wouldn't split the country or give in on civil rights confident that enough people would just be happy to see it all go away they wouldn't be too upset over how. So I guess my question is are you against non-violent action completely, or do you think people are to quick to give up on violence as an option?
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there wolf posted:Thanks for the recommendation. But it may have gotten them to that 40% which means lawmakers could either gamble that increasingly violent actions wouldn't split the country or give in on civil rights confident that enough people would just be happy to see it all go away they wouldn't be too upset over how. I believe in the old saying "speak softly, but carry a big stick." Non violent protest with no threat of "we can do this the easy way, or the hard way", just makes people suckers. All that holding hands poo poo doesn't mean much if your not willing to make those hands a fist when it counts.
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Fluffdaddy posted:Jesus loving Christ white people are real mad. Mad enough to spend $10 just to prove a lovely point. I tried to bring poo poo like this to the attention of the admins in QCS, but just take a look at that thread and see how it turned out.
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Domestic Amuse posted:Mad enough to spend $10 just to prove a lovely point. They run a business based on people spending $10 to prove a lovely point. What motivation do they have to crack down on it?
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PT6A posted:They run a business based on people spending $10 to prove a lovely point. What motivation do they have to crack down on it? tbh I didn't realize that until later on.
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negromancer posted:I believe in the old saying "speak softly, but carry a big stick."
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verdigris murder posted:Negromancer why has Niggamortis been vanished on all the digital musical ownership platforms? I have no idea who or what that is.
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verdigris murder posted:Negromancer why has Niggamortis been vanished on all the digital musical ownership platforms? Suicide. its a suicide.
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