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ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
Every natural right of a citizen should be provided for free at the expense of the state: healthcare, education, a gun, and whatever the liberal version of Ed Balls is.

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hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

:agreed:

navyjack
Jul 15, 2006



logikv9 posted:

i didn't enjoy going through this ugh I'M GAY FOR GUNS circlejerk

Man, I got excited thinking we had a new word-filter, but :negative:

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Homework Explainer posted:

assad offered to step down in 2012 but the us wanted a friendlier government installed via regime change so they told him and russia to gently caress off

lol assad stepping down and being replaced by one of his relatives would have changed nothing. and that's assuming the offer was genuine and not just baiting so they could then turn around and say "see they didn't accept our generous offer!"

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich
You know I am honestly amazed LeJackal never showed up for this.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

You really can't say anything about gun control because there's no way it won't be twisted according to the paranoid style, into a secret slippery slope plot to take the guns away.

If you really want gun control to be politically viable then arm blacks, hispanics, and communists - then march them up and down every main street in formation. People will be begging for gun control then.

Which is why I am against it.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Rand alPaul posted:

Compulsory militia musters as well.



this seems like a better argument for gun control than any kind of research or million dollar ad campaign

"look at these chucklefucks"

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Can someone tell me why GDP growth is such a strong indicator of whether or not a candidate from an incumbent's political party will be elected? I mean the answer should be obvious, but if the population's wages are stagnating or declining, then how are they feeling that the economy is "on the right track"?

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

Yinlock posted:

this seems like a better argument for gun control than any kind of research or million dollar ad campaign

"look at these chucklefucks"

A lot of the Federalists did not want a universal militia precisely for that picture shown. Guys like Washington were quoted during the Constitutional debates basically saying militias were garbage in battle and they should never be relied upon for anything except putting down riots. The War of 1812 backed up their claims.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
the fact that were capable of electing someone like Donald Trump is a pretty good argument for keeping the populace armed.

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Ace of Baes posted:

the fact that were capable of electing someone like Donald Trump is a pretty good argument for keeping the populace armed.

On the other hand, it shows there are millions of people out there that I wouldn't trust with safety scissors, let alone a gun.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Ace of Baes posted:

the fact that were capable of electing someone like Donald Trump is a pretty good argument for keeping the populace armed.

also equally an argument against it

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Pretty sure an armed populace is a bit tougher to round up and put in camps than an unarmed one.

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
i'm a sovereign citizen, i'm a sovereign citizen i continue to insist while a predator drone launches a hellfire missile at me

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Darkman Fanpage posted:

lol assad stepping down and being replaced by one of his relatives would have changed nothing. and that's assuming the offer was genuine and not just baiting so they could then turn around and say "see they didn't accept our generous offer!"

Basshar was a computer nerd and doting mama's boy, who was practically brow-beaten into cracking down on demonstrations with deadly force. He was never even supposed to assume the presidency, so who's to say a different figure in command wouldn't have been more flexible? Character matters in a presidential dictatorship. :shrug:

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Basshar was a computer nerd and doting mama's boy, who was practically brow-beaten into cracking down on demonstrations with deadly force. He was never even supposed to assume the presidency, so who's to say a different figure in command wouldn't have been more flexible? Character matters in a presidential dictatorship. :shrug:

I'm sure Assad would have just given out the position randomly and not to whatever relative he thought would continue his brutal regime. Totally woulda happened.

H.P. Hovercraft
Jan 12, 2004

one thing a computer can do that most humans can't is be sealed up in a cardboard box and sit in a warehouse
Slippery Tilde

Fullhouse posted:

get some black panthers to stand around with fake guns in open carry states and full gun control will be implemented immediately

literally just pay them to stand on a street corner waving a gun around like gold stores pay teenagers to wave signs around

fyi this is exactly why open carry is illegal in california

thanks, reagan

Fulchrum
Apr 16, 2013

by R. Guyovich

H.P. Hovercraft posted:

fyi this is exactly why open carry is illegal in california

thanks, reagan

It's also why the FBI cracked down on the black Panthers and they are not around anymore.

Everyone tells the Reagan hypocrisy side and leaves out the whole federal government treating them like a terrorist group thing.

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Ace of Baes posted:

Pretty sure an armed populace is a bit tougher to round up and put in camps than an unarmed one.
They're just as easy to drone or let starve or allow to die through medical neglect, though.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo
The Second Amendment clearly only applies to whites. It's why you keep seeing those youtube videos of a white guy talking with the police while the black guy open carrying the exact same weapon has SWAT called on him.

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES
'Guns for Gals/Gays/Minorities' programs own

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Ace of Baes posted:

Pretty sure an armed populace is a bit tougher to round up and put in camps than an unarmed one.

The purpose of an armed populace is to do he rounding up for the police, hth.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fulchrum posted:

I'm sure Assad would have just given out the position randomly and not to whatever relative he thought would continue his brutal regime. Totally woulda happened.

So an entire country should have been torn apart, hundreds of thousands killed, and millions turned refugee because of your gut assumption that allowing Basshar to step down would have been pointless.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Fulchrum posted:

It's also why the FBI cracked down on the black Panthers and they are not around anymore.

Everyone tells the Reagan hypocrisy side and leaves out the whole federal government treating them like a terrorist group thing.

There were plenty of other black gun clubs and self-defense organizations operating in the United States during the 60s and 70s. The reason the Panthers were singled out as a COINTEL target, was because they had a successful socialist political program and were coordinating with other ethnic revolutionary movements in the Rainbow Coalition. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Coalition_(Fred_Hampton)

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Basshar was a computer nerd and doting mama's boy, who was practically brow-beaten into cracking down on demonstrations with deadly force. He was never even supposed to assume the presidency, so who's to say a different figure in command wouldn't have been more flexible? Character matters in a presidential dictatorship. :shrug:

He kind of reminds me of Nicholas II, someone who was never supposed to be anywhere near power and is at least partially aware of that.

Scrub-Niggurath
Nov 27, 2007

Can someone explain the distinction of a presidential dictatorship

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Hey who would you rather be president, Hillary Clinton or Bashar Al-Assad?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

zegermans posted:

Hey who would you rather be president, Hillary Clinton or Bashar Al-Assad?

Assad since he has a better K/D ratio than Hillary.

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

that's only if you count eliminations, when you look at final blows clinton is the slay queen

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Fulchrum posted:

I'm sure Assad would have just given out the position randomly and not to whatever relative he thought would continue his brutal regime. Totally woulda happened.

hmm so we were right to not even pursue it and prolong the civil war. gotcha

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

we need to arm cspam for the coming somethingawful civil war imo

deadly memes, etc

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Scrub-Niggurath posted:

Can someone explain the distinction of a presidential dictatorship

Having the pretense of a presidential election gives the nation a +10 bonus to diplomacy rolls, but a -10 to quashing internal dissent. Also it gives a an additional policy slot once tech level 8 is reached.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

The problem now isn't HRC, it's the #HillaryMen (and women) still in positions of authority in the party who would rather burn it down around them than cede their power to leftists.

poo poo-talking HRC is only useful insofar as it destroys the credibility of these people and aids in marginalizing and sidelining them, which needs to happen.

I know this is like a thousand pages back but
Focusing on the people around her making terrible calls is better for this. It doesnt need to really be said more than Hillary surrounded herself with useless people, then bounce off that to attack her remaining allies trying to cling to power.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

It doesnt need to really be said more than Hillary surrounded herself with useless people, then bounce off that to attack her remaining allies trying to cling to power.

confirmed, we must destroy bernie sanders

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

:bernout:

iospace
Jan 19, 2038


SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:

I know this is like a thousand pages back but
Focusing on the people around her making terrible calls is better for this. It doesnt need to really be said more than Hillary surrounded herself with useless people, then bounce off that to attack her remaining allies trying to cling to power.

John "Two republicans for every blue collar" Podesta

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Homework Explainer posted:

hmm so we were right to not even pursue it and prolong the civil war. gotcha

The civil war would have continued no matter what. The root problem is the brutality of the Baathist party, not just the brutality of the Assad family. Pandora's box was opened, there was no closing of it as long as the state of Syria remained a single party government without free elections to properly represent the will of the people, and even then I doubt that would appease the jihadists. The Iraq War is the catalyst for all of this. Short of going back in time and stopping that war I doubt anything could stop what has happened.

Darkman Fanpage has issued a correction as of 19:41 on Nov 25, 2016

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Accretionist posted:

What's the alternative? Also, is it worth the friction with Russia?

Currently, our purpose in Syria is reducing it to a perpetual meat grinder. We should probably knock it off

I'm not saying we need to do anything but lol if you think a dude with torture camps is at all helping any moves towards peace.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Darkman Fanpage posted:

The civil war would have continued no matter what. The root problem is the brutality of the Baathist party, not just the brutality of the Assad family.

Yea I'm not sure in what world the Baathists weren't pretty psyched to purge the filthy undesirables from go and didn't really need any prodding to keep going from outside forces.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Darkman Fanpage posted:

The civil war would have continued no matter what. The root problem is the brutality of the Baathist party, not just the brutality of the Assad family. Pandora's box was opened, there was no closing of it as long as the state of Syria remained a single party government without free elections to properly represent the will of the people, and even then I doubt that would appease the jihadists. The Iraq War is the catalyst for all of this. Short of going back in time and stopping that war I doubt anything could stop what has happened.

That's not a good reason to funnel weapons and money to the Jihadists so they can make the situation even worse. If somebody offers you a potential out, then you take it no matter how unlikely it seems. After everything else that's happened this year, we can't afford to keep making bad assumptions on assumed wisdom.

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