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Electro-Boogie Jack
Nov 22, 2006
bagger mcguirk sent me.

Grand Fromage posted:

Have any other countries mass confiscated passports like this in recent times? The only countries I could think of that might have are places where nobody had a passport anyway like North Korea.

This isn't even the first time they've done that in China- there have been repeated passport confiscations in Tibet over the last few years. People are frequently told that they need to hand in their passports so they can get new ones with new technology, but then no new one is issued. It's so common Tibetans have been passing around guides for what to do when police come to take your passport:

http://highpeakspureearth.com/2016/tibetans-online-raising-legal-awareness-legally-issued-passports-cant-be-confiscated/

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Haier
Aug 10, 2007

by Lowtax

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!



Would read that novel but it's missing the noble savage who understands that the British way is best and is ashamed of his countrymen's behaviour

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Pirate Radar posted:

I've asked Taiwanese people what they think and they go more for Spider-Man, actually



There are many more spelling errors on this mural.

Punk da Bundo
Dec 29, 2006

by FactsAreUseless
being Muslim in china sounds pretty bad , but it looks like our Hero only cares if they are down for casual plunging !!

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Pon de Bundy posted:

being Muslim in china sounds pretty bad , but it looks like our Hero only cares if they are down for casual plunging !!

Being Muslim is pretty bad everywhere, even in Muslim countries.

Shayu
Feb 9, 2014
Five dollars for five words.
Islam has been inside China for a long time, it is not so bad, as long as you are Han. Non-Han, especially in the frontier provinces, are prone to abuses, regardless of if they a Buddhist or a Muslim. The Uyghur people had a bad reputation in Beijing, that they would ask for a cigarette and when you handed it to them they would threaten you with a knife, make you hand over your wallet.

mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

Canadian Government moving to deport and strip the citizenship and permanent residency status of up to 800 Chinese immigrants who they assert fraudulently obtained these statuses. There has been a lot of controversy about the Canadian Government's ability to be able to revoke the citizenship of a Canadian, largely in the context of young people going to fight with IS. In my opinion this is the only situation, where citizenship is obtained in a fraudulent manner, where using that power is warranted. My wife is a Permanent Resident and we did a lot of work to get that status for her. People like these who cheat the system are not who we want in Canada.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/investigates/clients-of-convicted-immigration-consultant-facing-deportation-for-lying-1.3868330

quote:

Clients of convicted immigration consultant facing deportation for lying
500 more people under investigation for falsely obtaining permanent residency and Canadian citizenship



One by one, many of the 1,200 former clients of an unlicensed Richmond, B.C., immigration consultant are getting the bad news — they're no longer welcome in Canada because they lied.

CBC News has learned 320 immigrants, who each paid thousands of dollars to New Can Consulting and owner Xun (Sunny) Wang, are now facing deportation to China.

One year ago, Wang, 47, was convicted of one of the biggest immigration scams in Canadian history — making $10 million by filing fraudulent immigration applications for his clients.

In one of his ploys, Wang falsely used his own home in Richmond as an address for 114 of his clients who didn't live in Canada.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Over 100 people to the same address? How stupid can you get?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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nickmeister posted:

Over 100 people to the same address? How stupid can you get?

You could be the Canadian government, who fell for it 100 times

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Fojar38 posted:

You could be the Canadian government, who fell for it 100 times

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me 114 times, enjoy being clapped in irons and kicked out of the country.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
I'd have more sympathy for the ones who were dirt poor and legitimately looking to live in Canada and become a part of actual Canadian society. It seems like a lot of them are just rich people, who like rich people all over the world, want to skirt the rules normal people have to follow? I'm not Canadian, but I'm assuming you guys have enough of those already.

The guy in the 7 million dollar home strikes me as odd, since you'd think he could have gotten in to Canada legally.

Shayu
Feb 9, 2014
Five dollars for five words.
Immigration rules are so complex and difficult to meet that it's no wonder so many people feel taking the risk of being caught is more preferable than to follow the rule. Why not just make the legal way as easy as the illegal way? Those rules are rarely broken.

mikerock
Oct 29, 2005

Shayu posted:

Immigration rules are so complex and difficult to meet that it's no wonder so many people feel taking the risk of being caught is more preferable than to follow the rule. Why not just make the legal way as easy as the illegal way? Those rules are rarely broken.

They're not really. At least in Canada they're mostly just time consuming from my the experience my wife and I had. From what has come out about this it seems like a lot of it centers around forging entry and exit stamps in passports which leads me to believe that these people were lying about how much time they spent in Canada while the application process was under way. You're required to spend at least 3 of 5 years in Canada and you have to provide documentation to back up that claim. It is very difficult to work in Canada legally during that time, so it sounds like these people were living and working in China while saying they were in Canada.

It seems like it was a case of this is how poo poo works in China so it works like this everywhere else right?

Facebook Aunt
Oct 4, 2008

wiggle wiggle




nickmeister posted:

The guy in the 7 million dollar home strikes me as odd, since you'd think he could have gotten in to Canada legally.

He probably could have, but that would be hard and involve following the rules. The scam was that they were claiming full-time residence in Canada, while actually still living and working in China. After a number of years of residing in Canada (and a bunch of other hoops) they would become eligible for citizenship. But they don't want to live in Canada yet, they just want to have the option available if they ever need to get out of China in a hurry.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Facebook Aunt posted:

He probably could have, but that would be hard and involve following the rules. The scam was that they were claiming full-time residence in Canada, while actually still living and working in China. After a number of years of residing in Canada (and a bunch of other hoops) they would become eligible for citizenship. But they don't want to live in Canada yet, they just want to have the option available if they ever need to get out of China in a hurry.

Oh, I get that. They want an escape hatch. But it seemed like that guy was actually LIVING in that mcmansion, not just using as a way to hide his money from the CCP.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Haier, I think you'll find someone eventually, though they might not be the kind of person who wants to chat with guys on WeChat. In my experience girls training in software engineering or with Masters degrees who face some prejudice because they're "leftover women" tend to be much more open minded and are less susceptible to the bullshit of Chinese society. They also know how to get around the firewalls so have read a lot of news from the Western world and have a broader picture of how the world actually works.

Also that poo poo about the Canadian scam is unfortunate. I got PR in Canada 6 months ago and every case like this increases the scrutiny over PR applications which makes it more of a complicated process. It's already much more of a headache than it used to be. Especially for people from Asia, a lot of whom just want to settle in a more stable country.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Facebook Aunt posted:

He probably could have, but that would be hard and involve following the rules. The scam was that they were claiming full-time residence in Canada, while actually still living and working in China. After a number of years of residing in Canada (and a bunch of other hoops) they would become eligible for citizenship. But they don't want to live in Canada yet, they just want to have the option available if they ever need to get out of China in a hurry.

Canada has a pay-for-citizenship program like St. Kitts and other tax havens

raton
Jul 28, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKxtQzwoHH8&t=9s

B33rChiller
Aug 18, 2011




Improbable Lobster posted:

Canada has a pay-for-citizenship program like St. Kitts and other tax havens

* Offer only valid in Quebec

ocrumsprug
Sep 23, 2010

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

nickmeister posted:

Oh, I get that. They want an escape hatch. But it seemed like that guy was actually LIVING in that mcmansion, not just using as a way to hide his money from the CCP.

Nah, he had fraudulent entry and exit stamps in his passport as well.

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
Maybe he should have started his own business scamming his fellow countrymen while sloppily circumventing the law? Surely it wouldn't have taken the government more than two years to catch him?

Alzabo
Oct 23, 2002

You watched it, you can't unwatch it.

Fun Fact: this movie was shot on land that was used for nuke tests. A lot of the crew and cast got cancer.

Power Khan
Aug 20, 2011

by Fritz the Horse
Good.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

Alzabo posted:

Fun Fact: this movie was shot on land that was used for nuke tests. A lot of the crew and cast got cancer.

Including the Duke himself.

Prince Reggie K
Feb 12, 2007

I've been denied all the best Ultra-Sex.
loving John Wayne as Temujin? what is this poo poo? This is up there with Alec Guinness in Lawrence of Arabia.

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Alec Guinness was amazing in Lawrence of Arabia.

cnut
May 3, 2016

"Facing a ‘tidal wave’ of dementia, China is running out of time".

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/dementia-crisis-in-china/article33047108/?cmpid=rss1&google_editors_picks=true

quote:

“I desperately wish mercy killing would be allowed for people with this kind of disease,” said her daughter, Luo Shan. “It is such torture. And we are so helpless, just waiting for death to come. We look at the way our family suffers, but can do nothing.”

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I thought they "Solved" the problem by just dumping them in the country side.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
I have a Chinese Coworker whose mother has dementia. Jesus it's depressing.

cnut
May 3, 2016

My parents died when they were young enough not to get dementia, I can only imagine how horrible it is for all those involved.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
My grandmother forget who her grandchildren were, then towards the end forgot about her own children.

cnut
May 3, 2016

That's heartbreaking.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34483448

quote:

One in three young Chinese men will die from smoking, study says

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
the other 2/3rds from food poisoning and construction accidents

mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants
So there overpopulation problem will be solved in a few decades or so?

Let us English
Feb 21, 2004

Actual photo of Let Us English, probably seen here waking his wife up in the morning talking about chemical formulae when all she wants is a hot cup of shhhhh

Stringent posted:

No, I say the same for Japanese, but as always not to the same degree.

Agreed. Completely useless once you stop living in Japan. The industries where Japanese is useful abroad pay like poo poo so why bother. I should have majored in Spanish.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I know a lot of people who are happy living in Japan and plan to stay there permanently though, and a couple working at like app startups where they do translation and PR stuff but it's all online so they live wherever. I don't meet very many people planning to stay in China for the long term, especially as time goes on. My first year here I met some but the country's roaring backwards so fast now that most people seem to have an exit plan in the near future.

Japan seems like the most pleasant East Asian country to live in so it's not that weird? People like Taiwan too but I don't really know much. Like it definitely seems the pleasantness is Japan > Korea > China and that is also unsurprisingly the ranking of places people seem happy to stay in long-term.

Anyway it was just what I have personally encountered, not a universal statement. Also I learned German so lol. Not even useful in Germany everybody speaks fluent English.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

mikerock posted:

They're not really. At least in Canada they're mostly just time consuming from my the experience my wife and I had. From what has come out about this it seems like a lot of it centers around forging entry and exit stamps in passports which leads me to believe that these people were lying about how much time they spent in Canada while the application process was under way. You're required to spend at least 3 of 5 years in Canada and you have to provide documentation to back up that claim. It is very difficult to work in Canada legally during that time, so it sounds like these people were living and working in China while saying they were in Canada.

It seems like it was a case of this is how poo poo works in China so it works like this everywhere else right?

When we were doing the paperwork for my wife to come to Canada (her and myself did it, no agency) as a permanent resident it took about two months to get all of the supporting documents ready, and that was mostly because she needed to get them translated. From the day that we mailed the package to the day we got the confirmation that she could enter Canada was less than three months, and was almost too fast because it meant we had to cut our stay in Korea short by a good 2 weeks or the entry Visa would expire.

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I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
But with Japanese you can watch anime.

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