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AggressivelyStupid posted:LeBron is the greatest of all time and I will fight anyone who disagrees Same 2016 finals catapulted him to the front
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Time posted:Marcus Camby was hosting thanksgiving on his estate and his 9 year old autistic nephew wondered off and has been missing for 24 hours 2016 is the worst euphronius posted:Same This is asinine one finals performance doesn't make or break a person's claim to the throne
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Nov 26, 2016 01:36
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Metapod posted:2016 is the worst Actually it's a compelling argument. Once we get past the cosmically idiotic notion of GOAT in the first place that sportsball fans have.
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Nov 26, 2016 01:38
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There's something to be said about guys like Davis and Westbrook and the numbers they're putting up being historic, and it is a shame that their teams are so bad, surrounding them. Except if the teams surrounding them were better, they'd probably be putting up less historic numbers. I'm honestly more surprised and impressed that Durant is actually playing as well as he is for the Warriors this year. He's got what I'm thinking has to be an unsustainably good shooting season going right now. Flipside, Thompson and Green's shooting is both pretty dramatically down from where it was a season ago. The Warriors this year make both arguments make less sense. If playing with better players makes you appreciably better, or having better teammates to spread the floor makes your own shooting better, you'd expect to see a big increase in, if not raw stats, then things like percentages for all three guys. Instead, on offense, only Durant seems to have benefitted from his addition to the team and the other two, significantly less so. Also scary is Green's defense seems to have improved, somehow. That's just not right. It's a shame he's an rear end because 1)He's unique and crazy good and people should have known he'd be good given his collegiate career but no one did and 2)If he's ever in town again some off season I'll have to pretend to like him.
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Nov 26, 2016 01:45
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Defense is about sacrifice. Green has to do way less on offense as a scorer, so he can focus more energy on defense. Currently, the Warriors are putting Durant as a stagger focus point for the 2nd unit, so he's feasting on the bench units until Curry and Green rotate back in the start of the 2nd quarter. Also it's really hard to guard Durant when his teammates are Curry, Thompson, and Green on the wing instead of Roberson and Adams.
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Nov 26, 2016 01:50
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Metapod posted:This is asinine one finals performance doesn't make or break a person's claim to the throne Beating the greatest regular season team of all time after going down 1-3 is one of the greatest accomplishments and having great accomplishments is what makes you the GOAT? Anyhow it's even more narrow than that, only a single play, a few seconds, one moment, he was behind Jordan until THE BLOCK
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Nov 26, 2016 01:57
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"OH BLOCKED BY JAMES" was the exact moment he tied for GOAT and the missed dunk afterwards is the only reason there's still any lingering question 
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Nov 26, 2016 01:59
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EvanTH posted:Beating the greatest regular season team of all time after going down 1-3 is one of the greatest accomplishments and having great accomplishments is what makes you the GOAT? Don't forget that said greatest regular season team had the first unanimous MVP
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Nov 26, 2016 02:09
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Jordan played in an era of trash defense and got carried by the real GOAT of his team, Luc Longley.
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Nov 26, 2016 02:16
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Jordan played in an era of trash defense and got carried by the real GOAT of his team, Luc Longley. here's an example of trash defense jordan played against: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH5YA5qJnpo
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Nov 26, 2016 02:22
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R.D. Mangles posted:here's an example of trash defense jordan played against: Exactly, elho was human garbage
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Nov 26, 2016 02:32
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R.D. Mangles posted:here's an example of trash defense jordan played against: Are the celtics the only team to put a white guy on Jordan and win a series? Hashtag Banterzone fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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Nov 26, 2016 02:35
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Defenses are way better now than they have ever been. My hot take is that the Lebron Cavs, Heat, 15 or 16 Warriors and the 14 Spurs would beat any previous champion. Except the Cavs and GSW might have trouble with Shaq. Though I fully expect Kobe would have shot his team out of several games trying to match the 3pt shooting. I'd love to see the 80's teams attempt to defend one of those teams and get 3's rained all over them.
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Nov 26, 2016 02:38
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Spite posted:Defenses are way better now than they have ever been. I would bet the Cavs and Warriors beat Shaq by virtue of superior 3-point shooting and hacking him on the other side. Also the pick and roll mismatch meta is a relatively new thing, so putting Shaq to try and defend in space might also be a big problem.
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Nov 26, 2016 02:41
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my favorite jordan thing is every single dude in the 1990s who called himself The Jordan Stopper
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Nov 26, 2016 02:41
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Shear Modulus posted:Don't forget that said greatest regular season team had the first unanimous MVP Wow I almost forgot that the Golden State Warriors blew a 3-1 lead in the NBA finals despite having the first unanimous MVP because some idiot in Boston fan voted for Melo instead of LeBron a few years earlier
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Nov 26, 2016 02:42
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Don't forget the Alan Iverson vote in Shaq's year.
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Nov 26, 2016 02:56
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EvanTH posted:"OH BLOCKED BY JAMES" was the exact moment he tied for GOAT and the missed dunk afterwards is the only reason there's still any lingering question still angers me that habitual meat-checking coward deprived us of the chaos dunk
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Nov 26, 2016 02:56
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LeBron took a team coached by mike brown and with the second and third highest minutes on the team going to Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden to the NBA finals. Jordan needed Pippen and Grant/Rodman + Phil Jackson as a coach to get there.
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Nov 26, 2016 02:58
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also holy moly the mavs are worse than an unpolished turd
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Nov 26, 2016 02:58
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 Alex Len https://twitter.com/fsnorth/status/802337279217807360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw MY BOY
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Nov 26, 2016 03:28
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Porzingis claimed Cody Zeller's soul https://twitter.com/theclemreport/status/802341650085408768
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Nov 26, 2016 03:52
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his face as he falls down is perfect
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Nov 26, 2016 03:54
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the zellers are a bunch of dime store plumlees imo
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Nov 26, 2016 03:54
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Can I still claim a boy because I want Patty Mills. Also I think to get a real debate going we need to examine whether a modern 3-happy championship team could beat the Dream Team.
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Nov 26, 2016 03:58
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R.D. Mangles posted:the zellers are a bunch of dime store plumlees imo Speaking as a coastal city type my understanding is that the foreign lands of Ye Middle Weste are roamed by clans of misshapen giants like the Plumlees and Zellers. The reason a few of them leave their homelands to play in the NBA is because there are no jobs there anymore.
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Nov 26, 2016 04:03
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most people in the midwest are indeed large and misshapen although not in the same way as NBA midwesterners are.
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Nov 26, 2016 04:09
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euphronius posted:Tobias Harris shoots threes. He should start making more of them, then. KCP is the only piston with a decent 3P% at 37%. Also, what the hell is up with Stanley Johnson? Was suspended for tonight's game for violation of team rules.
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Nov 26, 2016 04:38
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Kind of hard to say what he did without more info, it can be anything from missing a plane flight to freaking out on salvia in a condo lobby.
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Nov 26, 2016 04:40
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IcePhoenix posted:LeBron took a team coached by mike brown and with the second and third highest minutes on the team going to Larry Hughes and Drew Gooden to the NBA finals. Jordan needed Pippen and Grant/Rodman + Phil Jackson as a coach to get there. Screw the whole "Pippen is better than any James Sidekick" argument. The real reason James' accomplishments are more impressive is Dennis Rodman is the best complimentary player of all time.
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Nov 26, 2016 04:56
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Spite posted:Defenses are way better now than they have ever been. I think it's the '08 Celtics that starts each championship team being capable of taking down the 01 Lakers, 96 Bulls, and 99 Spurs (the three teams I think were the best prior in order). The '07 Spurs are borderline but fall short I think. Bashez fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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Nov 26, 2016 05:05
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EvanTH posted:"OH BLOCKED BY JAMES" was the exact moment he tied for GOAT and the missed dunk afterwards is the only reason there's still any lingering question Yeah I think he's the best but agree you can reasonably see it otherwise If he hit that dunk ....
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Nov 26, 2016 05:07
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Shear Modulus posted:
I reckon yeah probably, most of the members of that team are pretty old now. Also Wilt is actually the GOAT.
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Nov 26, 2016 05:10
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Kevin Martin has retired It's a shame his shoulder injury pretty much derailed his career. Thank you for giving us James Harden.
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Nov 26, 2016 05:19
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LeBron is like Jordan and Pippen had their skillsets combined and put in a giant, fast, freakish body. The one thing he's missing is Jordan's psychosis.
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Nov 26, 2016 05:20
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Please give all of Dunn's minutes to Tyus, Thibs.
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Nov 26, 2016 05:30
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Alex Len had 7 turnovers 3 of them were because of inbound passes how
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Nov 26, 2016 05:49
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Westbrook plays a low energy game and generally looked like he was going through the motions till the end. Stat line: 36 points 12 rebounds 18 assists lol
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Nov 26, 2016 05:54
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https://twitter.com/JimPeteHoops/status/802370453327093760
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Veryslightlymad posted:There's something to be said about guys like Davis and Westbrook and the numbers they're putting up being historic, and it is a shame that their teams are so bad, surrounding them. Their numbers will drop. Durant's shooting will slow down. It happens to all players every year. Veryslightlymad posted:If playing with better players makes you appreciably better, or having better teammates to spread the floor makes your own shooting better, you'd expect to see a big increase in, if not raw stats, then things like percentages for all three guys. Instead, on offense, only Durant seems to have benefitted from his addition to the team and the other two, significantly less so. It's still very early in the season and it would've been hard for Curry to improve upon his numbers from last year no matter who he was playing alongside. They do have the highest team ORtg of all-time right now. Noctone posted:also holy moly the mavs are worse than an unpolished turd 46% of SA voters have the Mavericks in the 2017 playoffs.
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