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sweet geek swag posted:Nog gets promoted twice. First they promote him from cadet to ensign, then in the last episode he gets promoted to Lieutenant (jg). lol Even Nog gets to boss O'Brien around right off the bat
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sweet geek swag posted:Nog gets promoted twice. First they promote him from cadet to ensign, then in the last episode he gets promoted to Lieutenant (jg). cool i am glad they did not forget
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Nov 26, 2016 02:50
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He even gets O'Brian's old job. Everyone notices that that stuff stops breaking down all the time once they start using fabricated compounds for lubricants instead if Cardassian blood mixed with Irish tears.
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Nov 26, 2016 02:51
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Drink-Mix Man posted:This might be an unpopular opinion, but I never liked watching Nog. I mean, he was written well enough but something about that little guy trying to puff out his chest and be a soldier while talking through his fake teeth never really sat well for me. Lt. Nog is some of that writer's room's best work.
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It always bothered me how the Federation seemed to be super judgmental of the Ferengi for being capitalists meanwhile they're all "live and let live" with the klingons, cardassians, and romulans who are all several degrees worse than the ferengi and I'm glad that DS9 is basically one giant callout at Federation hypocrisy
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Nov 26, 2016 02:54
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Its because the show never really settled on what post scarcity would really look like. In the opening you have crusher mentioning a "crusher" account. Voyager had bartering but also replicater rations, or holodeck time. Klingons, romulans, cardassions can all be antagonist you begrudgingly respect for their martial tradition, their ale, or smug charm. But the Frengie are basically traders, and not charming ones, crud rude, and always out to make a profit. I always felt like since star trek had replicators, complex material things would have almost no vaule but energy, raw material, skills to run such a machine should have a value that is expressed in something that wouldn't quite resemble currency as we know it. Maybe the federation does land grants on Risa, or pays in merts that get you access to things that are scarce. the whole latim thing should've been something that the cardys value and thus their neighbors value as well for trade.
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Nov 26, 2016 03:03
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Voyager's limited holodeck time and replicator rations were due to them being in the Delta Quadrant with limited resources. It's not like in TNG where every other episode they swing by a Starbase to top up the matter tanks and rotate crew. Gotta stop people gorging to death on comfort food and just locking themselves in Neelix's holo-resort.
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Someone who worked on one of the later series mentioned how Gene Roddenberry's single hard and fast rule of No Money was the most difficult loving thing to write around all the time and was a big hindrance to the universe. They couldn't ignore the concept of money and have a realistic universe at the same time so instead they'd do "bartering." You'll notice Voyager trades technology like that all the time.
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Fojar38 posted:It always bothered me how the Federation seemed to be super judgmental of the Ferengi for being capitalists meanwhile they're all "live and let live" with the klingons, cardassians, and romulans who are all several degrees worse than the ferengi and I'm glad that DS9 is basically one giant callout at Federation hypocrisy To be fair, a big part of DS9 was federation officers realizing the ferengi weren't too bad while the ferengi realized they needed to play better with their allies if they wanted to keep doing business with them. Occasionally Quark would even land a decent blow on Siskp during their arguments. Nog was cool, I liked his ptsd episode.
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Nov 26, 2016 03:24
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Kai Winn is annoying but doesnt count because she's supposed to be
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I actually liked Kai Winn in the leadup to the dominion war because she actually acted like a leader instead of a less attractive romulan
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Nov 26, 2016 03:33
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Kai Winn, Senator Vreenak, & Haneek the Skrreean leader. gently caress Marry Kill. Go.
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shadow puppet of a posted:his dick is like a spiked truncheon Source plz.
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Justin Credible posted:Source plz. https://www.amazon.com/Line-Officer-Requirements-Star-Trek/dp/B00139YAHQ
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shadow puppet of a posted:Kai Winn, Senator Vreenak, & Haneek the Skrreean leader. I choose to kill myself. And you can go gently caress yourself. I got nothin' for marry though. Edit: maybe marry Vreenak before I kill myself. Just so he can say I faked my death.
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I would play it as it lay. Who wouldn't want to marry Vreenak. So dreamy. And Adami's is surely a butt that wont quit if its good enough for the likes of Mr. Bagged Bay-jho's By The Hundreds Gul Anjohl Dukat to hit twice. And killing a defenseless Skrreean. It was so easy a question you buffoon. Do you need me to have Vic walk you through it next time in song and dance like how he was in teaching Odo to be a hep cat?
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Lord of Pie posted:lol Even Nog gets to boss O'Brien around right off the bat Hey, now, O'Brien got promoted from janitor to professor of janitorial duties. With tenure because the academy would collapse without him. Classes are just work shifts all around campus because even as a professor he needs to fix everything himself.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Hey, now, O'Brien got promoted from janitor to professor of janitorial duties. With tenure because the academy would collapse without him. Classes are just work shifts all around campus because even as a professor he needs to fix everything himself. Boothby following O'Brien around the academy grounds and generally making his life hell with loud observations about how this new potato alien is the weirdest one yet
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How hosed up is it that O'Brien had to spend years fixing and maintaining a Cardassian station. That's like a severely PTSD WWII vet having to work and live in the Nazi rocket factory by Dora for years.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:How hosed up is it that O'Brien had to spend years fixing and maintaining a Cardassian station. That's like a severely PTSD WWII vet having to work and live in the Nazi rocket factory by Dora for years. Probably not as bad as the PTSD he got from being in mindjail for 20 years. Or lying awake at night wondering if he was the right clone.
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Fojar38 posted:i am also going to guess that rom will not be promoted for building the minefield and volunteering to stay on ds9 to be a federation spy True, but he does get a bit of a promotion later on.
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shadow puppet of a posted:Kai Winn, Senator Vreenak, & Haneek the Skrreean leader. gently caress Winn, Marry Haneek, and kill Vreenak so you can go to his funeral and say "It's a waaaaaake"
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Volcott posted:Probably not as bad as the PTSD he got from being in mindjail for 20 years. Or lying awake at night wondering if he was the right clone. Or if he's secretly a replicant. Again.
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O'Brien is from a different timeline anyways. Prime O'Brien died of time-radiation.
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counterfeitsaint posted:O'Brien is from a different timeline anyways. Prime O'Brien died of time-radiation. There was that one episode of Voyager where they killed like 7 Sevens before she caught the Time Bandit.
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Volcott posted:Probably not as bad as the PTSD he got from being in mindjail for 20 years. Or lying awake at night wondering if he was the right clone. Wonder if he ever got any of that fruit from the prison.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Wonder if he ever got any of that fruit from the prison. Picard's flute / O'Brien fruit.
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bloodychill posted:To be fair, a big part of DS9 was federation officers realizing the ferengi weren't too bad while the ferengi realized they needed to play better with their allies if they wanted to keep doing business with them. Occasionally Quark would even land a decent blow on Siskp during their arguments. Quark et al. going back in time to 1940s Roswell and finding out how savage huu-maans were in the past was particularly interesting. Apparently we were WAY more hosed up than the Ferengi ever were, which is a neat spin on things. It's like finding out this super cool 35 year old hippy chick you like was burning crosse and calling people faggots when she was 16, because that person lies just underneath the surface, ready to come out if times get hard and her alternative bookstore/crystal shop closes.
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Yeah it often seems weird how ignorant everyone is of human history. You think that would be something aliens would study to understand humans a bit better. It's always jokes about how soft and weak and cowardly humans are. We've done poo poo that would make the Obsidian Order grossed out, we've had regimes that make the Romulans look ethical and open, we've had wars that would see Klingons pissing their pants and crying in the trenches. Humans are god drat terrifying and one replicator shortage away from going full hitler. Gene would argue we've conquered these urges but gently caress you gene, unless we've been genetically engineered to change some pretty core instincts we've hyper violent tribal primates. I mean hell look at rape planet, it's even canon that the moment a stable utopian government falls apart it's full on roving rape gangs.
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The Cardassian's only killed like 10 million Bajorans over 60 (or was it 90) years. that's like child's play, babies first genocide, compared to humans. I mean Nazi Germany alone killed that many people in about the amount of time Enterprise was on the air for.
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10 million over the course of a 50ish year planetary occupation of probably billions of bajorans. That's actually a really clean record in terms of brutal occupations. Dukat really was doing his best. My theory is that despite how bad things can seem in trek, even the worst governments in trek are held to a much higher ethical standard than today. Like not even the Cardassians would actively attempt a genocide, either because they think they're above that or the galactic community would shun them hard. 10 million deaths out of billions, most probably from being worked too hard over 50 years, not so bad. The dominion actually wiping out whole civilizations and wanting to destroy earth to nip any future rebellions in the bud must have represented a sort of evil the universe hasn't seen in centuries.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:How hosed up is it that O'Brien had to spend years fixing and maintaining a Cardassian station. That's like a severely PTSD WWII vet having to work and live in the Nazi rocket factory by Dora for years. Starfleet has good Counselors to care for the mental well-being of its personnel 
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FuturePastNow posted:Starfleet has good Counselors to care for the mental well-being of its personnel Literally rushed Ezri dax through the federation counselor accreditation program on account of having a past life as a serial murderer. Bless you starfleet.
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Who better to assist PTSD victims than someone who was a serial killer in one life, died in a horrible shuttle crash in another, and was zapped by an evil demigod last time around?
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Hillary Clintons Thong posted:The Cardassian's only killed like 10 million Bajorans over 60 (or was it 90) years. There is a reason why Star Trek aliens, even the bad ones, suddenly get really really loving scared of the Federation when they read up on human history
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FuturePastNow posted:Starfleet has good Counselors to care for the mental well-being of its personnel also bashir gave him space prozac
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Bashir gave him some dick in the holosuites, you mean
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Humans are a wonderful, caring species, so long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, and they're no better than the most bloodthirsty klingon. I mean, humans go from rapid reform to get rid of the sanctuary districts to world war 3 genocide in just a few short years. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Nov 26, 2016 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:Humans are a wonderful, caring species, so long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, and they're no better than the most bloodthirsty klingon. tbf i think that world war 3 was asia loving things up yet again
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