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Feb 24, 2006

#worldchamps
Side Note: Made the mistake of trying to look up videos of Kodi builds on Fire TVs and HOLY poo poo, everybody has pretty much turned a clean build of Kodi into an atrocious raping of the eyes not since seen since we were 12 years old building geocities websites of our favorite celebrities drawn as South Park characters, good Gawd. They are ugly as gently caress.

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pzy
Feb 20, 2004

Da Boom!
Facebook and other marketplaces are inundated with Fire sticks with Kodi, pre-loaded with sketchy streaming sites and their lovely skins. It's a brave new world!

The Gunslinger
Jul 24, 2004

Do not forget the face of your father.
Fun Shoe
Every shopping mall around here has at least 1-2 chinese box kiosks preloaded with Kodi and streaming addons. It's crazy.

G-Prime
Apr 30, 2003

Baby, when it's love,
if it's not rough it isn't fun.
It blows my mind every time I see one of those kiosks set up. I can't believe they haven't been chased out of there by pitchfork-wielding people who end up with a "useless" box when the latest flavor of the month streaming site breaks because they change their URL and there's no update available for the addon because there's no actual repo.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
Is the Matrix aesthetic still in style?

Are Kodi skins the new Winamp skins?

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend

The Gunslinger posted:

I like SPMC just due to the recommendations and voice search integration but yeah if you need DTS:X passthru then you can use either one. Is it videos freezing over wifi? I had consistent problems with Plex/Kodi and the Shield wifi. I eventually got fed up and hardwired it which solved my problems. I'm using SPMC with the PlexKodiConnect plugin. Previously I had used Emby which worked ok but was much slower in importing new stuff into the library and wasn't consistent in its behavior.

As an aside I want to murder Nvidia for whatever clips they used in the RJ45 slot on the Shield. It holds cables with a death grip and you need to ram a safety pin in there to get them out without damaging the port.

Nope, it's wired (and yes, every port on the Shield sucks...see also: the sd card slot). The video freezes but the audio keeps playing, and I have to force kill the app. It usually happens when I'm seeking around looking for a particular thing.

Dyscrasia posted:

I would think SPMC is still needed until the next version of kodi. My understanding is that kodi cannot do proper pass through on android, so regardless of the shield is changes, SPMC is still needed. If I understand correctly, the current beta can do Android pass through. I've not tried it though.

Which next version? 17 that's in beta? Or a later one?

Minty Swagger posted:

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/950524/amazon-prime-on-the-shield-tested-and-working-mostly-/

Looks like someone found a way to side load in the apk with it working rather well. It's worth a shot anyway!

I've done this and it technically works but it's very difficult to control with the remote. It sucks.

Dyscrasia
Jun 23, 2003
Give Me Hamms Premium Draft or Give Me DEATH!!!!

EC posted:



Which next version? 17 that's in beta? Or a later one?

17 is the one. I've not spent a ton of time looking at it, but there is a thread on the kodi Android forums about it.

And as far as sideloading the Amazon app on a shield tv, you just need a file browser to install and it works fine.

Disappointing Pie
Feb 7, 2006
Words cannot describe what a disaster the pie was.
The Kodi stuff is insane. Some dude at work is charging people $100 to buy a fire stick and install it on them. I've never looked into what all it can do but he's promising people free tv and nearly every movie for free.

He's got quite the enterprise going on. He's done several dozen so far.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Yeah up in Grande Prairie there are a bunch of people buying the lovely android boxes (not android TV just the cheap box that's basically jellybean on your tv) and advertising them as free ppv and movies for life.

I've made a few passive aggressive comments on their Facebook buy/sell ads just to piss people off but they sell like crack here where a $180+ cable bill is considered normal.

I've set up a few for friends no profit and all the sudden had dirtbag drug dealers asking me for boxes and looking at me confused when I'd tell them it's not worth my time to sell them.

Vykk.Draygo
Jan 17, 2004

I say salesmen and women of the world unite!

Disappointing Pie posted:

The Kodi stuff is insane. Some dude at work is charging people $100 to buy a fire stick and install it on them. I've never looked into what all it can do but he's promising people free tv and nearly every movie for free.

He's got quite the enterprise going on. He's done several dozen so far.

That dude is going to be full of regrets when every single one of those people keeps bugging him about why things keep breaking and they can't watch movies anymore.

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

Vykk.Draygo posted:

That dude is going to be full of regrets when every single one of those people keeps bugging him about why things keep breaking and they can't watch movies anymore.

No way, that's when you charge them an extra $40 to look at it :unsmigghh:

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend

Call Me Charlie posted:

No way, that's when you charge them an extra $40 to look at it :unsmigghh:

Still not worth it.

I support one or two Kodi installations and its basically a loving nightmare if they don't know what they're doing. I can't imagine trying to do it for profit.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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How is Chromecast 1 with a Kindle Fire HD as the remote for this?

Krailor
Nov 2, 2001
I'm only pretending to care
Taco Defender

EC posted:

Still not worth it.

I support one or two Kodi installations and its basically a loving nightmare if they don't know what they're doing. I can't imagine trying to do it for profit.

That's why you just sell them out of a mall cart that you rent for 2 months. Everyone buys them as Christmas presents and by the time people open them and realize what they've done you're gone.

Thermopyle
Jul 1, 2003

...the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt. —Bertrand Russell

Fuzz posted:

How is Chromecast 1 with a Kindle Fire HD as the remote for this?

As I said in the other thread, the Chromecast doesn't have anything to do with Kodi.

I think what you're imagining is running Kodi on the Chromecast? It doesn't work that way. You need something that runs apps, and the Chromecast is not that thing. At the bare minimum you'll need a Fire TV stick, but you'll probably be happier with something like the nvidia shield.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I can remember five years ago or so everyone was giving their parents and grandparents Rokus with XBMC and IceFilms all setup. Then MegaUpload got shut down and that was that.

Burden
Jul 25, 2006

Fuzz posted:

How is Chromecast 1 with a Kindle Fire HD as the remote for this?

What you want is Plex. You can cast Plex to Chromecast and should work on the kindle fire tablets. Look into Plex Media Server.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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I already have Plex running on my desktop. I want Kodi running on something that MY GIRLFRIEND can use on the TV without touching my desktop so she can watch TV streams because I don't want to get cable and crap and she watches tons of random TV shows and likes to channel surf. Currently Plex streams to the PS4, but she has issues using the controller as the remote. So my options are:

1- Get a PS4 remote and try to get Kodi working on a PS4 (don't think this is an option without loving up my ability to play it online, so no)

2- Get Kodi working on my Kindle Fire HD 7 via sideloading, cast it to the Chromecast 1 I already have (yay free)

3- Get a Fire Stick or Box. Bonus would be she can watch Prime, Plex, and Netflix with the remote then, but it's variable cost.

4- Build an HTPC. :effort:

5- Setup her Surface Pro 2 to cast to the Chromecast and put Kodi on it. This could be the easiest, but again, I only have wireless N Wi-Fi. Also when she's at work I've got nothing since she takes it to work with her.

6- Get a Shield or something like that... way too costly and I wouldn't even play games on it anyway.


The goal is to just have Kodi on the TV (first run Samsung LED, pre CEC) with some sort of remote/touchscreen control that's easy for her to use. I was just gonna get one of those Cable style front ends to link to the add ons so she could just use that to watch stuff.

Ixian
Oct 9, 2001

Many machines on Ix....new machines
Pillbug

Fuzz posted:

I already have Plex running on my desktop. I want Kodi running on something that MY GIRLFRIEND can use on the TV without touching my desktop so she can watch TV streams because I don't want to get cable and crap and she watches tons of random TV shows and likes to channel surf. Currently Plex streams to the PS4, but she has issues using the controller as the remote. So my options are:

1- Get a PS4 remote and try to get Kodi working on a PS4 (don't think this is an option without loving up my ability to play it online, so no)

2- Get Kodi working on my Kindle Fire HD 7 via sideloading, cast it to the Chromecast 1 I already have (yay free)

3- Get a Fire Stick or Box. Bonus would be she can watch Prime, Plex, and Netflix with the remote then, but it's variable cost.

4- Build an HTPC. :effort:

5- Setup her Surface Pro 2 to cast to the Chromecast and put Kodi on it. This could be the easiest, but again, I only have wireless N Wi-Fi. Also when she's at work I've got nothing since she takes it to work with her.

6- Get a Shield or something like that... way too costly and I wouldn't even play games on it anyway.


The goal is to just have Kodi on the TV (first run Samsung LED, pre CEC) with some sort of remote/touchscreen control that's easy for her to use. I was just gonna get one of those Cable style front ends to link to the add ons so she could just use that to watch stuff.

If you already have a working Plex server you don't even need Kodi, Plex's client apps are really good. If you don't have Plex Pass you can still buy them for cheap, cheaper than the effort you are trying to go through here.

Either Cast the Plex client off a phone or whatever to a Chromecast or get a FireTV stick or Roku and run the Plex client on that. Dirt-simple to use, easy remote, done. You don't need to gently caress around with Kodi in your situation.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Ixian posted:

If you already have a working Plex server you don't even need Kodi, Plex's client apps are really good. If you don't have Plex Pass you can still buy them for cheap, cheaper than the effort you are trying to go through here.

Either Cast the Plex client off a phone or whatever to a Chromecast or get a FireTV stick or Roku and run the Plex client on that. Dirt-simple to use, easy remote, done. You don't need to gently caress around with Kodi in your situation.

Didn't even know Plex had TV streams. From what I had heard, Kodi is more up to date and I could customize the menus and channels and such pretty easily, plus it has a much larger selection of streams via continually updating add-ons.

Plex has been acting up since a recent update and refuses to actually go online, guess I can try messing with it but I have no problem having two separate things for her to use to watch stuff. She's relatively savvy on that stuff and has no issues swapping between the Prime, Netflix, and Plex apps on the PS4.

If I can get those streams working on the PS4 in Plex, then maybe I'll get in on that... been tempted to get the PS4 remote and the HDMI link between it and the TV works fine, plus I have it wired so I don't have to deal with stupid wifi issues.

redhalo
May 19, 2009

Fuzz posted:

Didn't even know Plex had TV streams. From what I had heard, Kodi is more up to date and I could customize the menus and channels and such pretty easily, plus it has a much larger selection of streams via continually updating add-ons.

You know that Kodi isn't going to just have TV streams in the manner that it sounds like you're looking for. Kodi is mainly or playing locally stored files, addon's provide content already online for free such as Youtube or Twitch. Pirating live television streams is far more troublesome and not worth it than you can imagine.

Ixian
Oct 9, 2001

Many machines on Ix....new machines
Pillbug

Fuzz posted:

Didn't even know Plex had TV streams. From what I had heard, Kodi is more up to date and I could customize the menus and channels and such pretty easily, plus it has a much larger selection of streams via continually updating add-ons.

Plex has been acting up since a recent update and refuses to actually go online, guess I can try messing with it but I have no problem having two separate things for her to use to watch stuff. She's relatively savvy on that stuff and has no issues swapping between the Prime, Netflix, and Plex apps on the PS4.

If I can get those streams working on the PS4 in Plex, then maybe I'll get in on that... been tempted to get the PS4 remote and the HDMI link between it and the TV works fine, plus I have it wired so I don't have to deal with stupid wifi issues.

If by TV Streams you mean pirate streams via some lovely Kodi addon then no, it doesn't, also you are never going to find an easy "just works" way to do that.

Get a Roku or FireTV, use Plex for your local media, and subscribe to Sling or Vue or whatever for "live" TV and be done with it. Or, dive in to the world of fly by night pirate streaming addons that break on a regular basis and are a complete pain in the rear end to use.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Or stop being a goon to your girlfriend and just get basic cable.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Sling works great for 20-25 a month. Vue is more expensive and has more channels but their interface on the Roku is poo poo.

Ixian
Oct 9, 2001

Many machines on Ix....new machines
Pillbug

MarcusSA posted:

Sling works great for 20-25 a month. Vue is more expensive and has more channels but their interface on the Roku is poo poo.

I suspect most of the people hand-wringing in this and the Cord-cutting thread would be perfectly happy with a Roku or FTV, a Sling or Vue subscription for under $30-40, and Plex for whatever media or Anime porn they've downloaded and store on a share somewhere local.

Maybe the UX's aren't top-notch across the board but the poo poo just works and is super easy to control with a remote, the one included or a Harmony. As long as your internet service is decent and reliable anyone in the house can pick up on it day one. The Shield is the best overall choice but not if you really have to have Amazon Prime video.

We have a gaggle of nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles, and parents stay with us on a regular basis and this is how I set up all my TVs. None of them have the slightest issue with it. In fact they have more problems with loving Direct TV which I am thinking of dropping. I pay nearly three times as much for it, and with a discount at that, and it is harder for everyone to use. The world has already changed; the app-centric interface for TVs is here and all-in-one grid layouts are dead.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Ixian posted:

I suspect most of the people hand-wringing in this and the Cord-cutting thread would be perfectly happy with a Roku or FTV, a Sling or Vue subscription for under $30-40, and Plex for whatever media or Anime porn they've downloaded and store on a share somewhere local.

Maybe the UX's aren't top-notch across the board but the poo poo just works and is super easy to control with a remote, the one included or a Harmony. As long as your internet service is decent and reliable anyone in the house can pick up on it day one. The Shield is the best overall choice but not if you really have to have Amazon Prime video.

We have a gaggle of nieces, nephews, aunts, uncles, and parents stay with us on a regular basis and this is how I set up all my TVs. None of them have the slightest issue with it. In fact they have more problems with loving Direct TV which I am thinking of dropping. I pay nearly three times as much for it, and with a discount at that, and it is harder for everyone to use. The world has already changed; the app-centric interface for TVs is here and all-in-one grid layouts are dead.

Yeah, I'm thinking I'll just grab a Fire TV box and do the Sling or Vue thing, then just supplement with Plex and downloading my own stuff for the weird poo poo.

I had really wanted to like the Chromecast, but even with the Ultra and using a Surface Pro or similar to cast from, I just don't think the tech/interface is there for it to not be annoyingly cumbersome... it's like, how hard would it really be to have a decent touchscreen interface for one of these things that ISN'T just a touchscreen remote? Why couldn't they just mirror the Fire TV's screen to your phone/tablet and let you browse on there and just pick stuff and bam, it's on your screen? Or conversely, why the gently caress is the Chromecast so married to Chrome/their lovely app instead of just being a built-in button on more apps? I mean, Youtube and a few others are fine, but those are all Google apps. This whole bullshit market competition is actively loving consumers because everyone wants you to use their own specific bullshit device or whatever.

I wish Sling was on PS4... then I could literally just sub that, get a PS4 remote, and call it a day.

Ixian
Oct 9, 2001

Many machines on Ix....new machines
Pillbug

Fuzz posted:



I wish Sling was on PS4... then I could literally just sub that, get a PS4 remote, and call it a day.

Vue is (of course) on the PS4, and works really well on it, as it should. It's more than Sling but also better.

The PS4 remote is....ok. If you can find it cheap it'll get the job done. Or you can buy a third party one that has an IR dongle, they work (most people buy those to use them with Harmony remotes and trash the one that comes with it) but are limited when it comes to turning the thing on and off, etc.

I dunno though, if you are buying this for your GF as well as yourself and you really want to save on the PITA factor just drop a few bucks on a Roku. It's a better interface for watching stuff, even if parts of it (like the Vue interface) are still dated. It works.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Ixian posted:


I dunno though, if you are buying this for your GF as well as yourself and you really want to save on the PITA factor just drop a few bucks on a Roku. It's a better interface for watching stuff, even if parts of it (like the Vue interface) are still dated. It works.

Yeah I agree with this. IMO the Roku is just so much better that it makes it worth it.

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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I'll look into a Roku 4. We had a chat about Sling and such, but that's for another thread. (Cutting Cable)

katkillad2
Aug 30, 2004

Awake and unreal, off to nowhere
So I bought a Fire HD 8 tablet primarily for Kodi, but also to have a tablet. I don't know why, but I assumed it would be a lot easier to get Kodi from my tablet onto a television. I assume I should have probably got a Shield if I wanted a tablet and ease of use to hook up to a TV through HDMI or a Fire TV if I wanted to forget about the tablet part?

katkillad2 fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 26, 2016

wolfbiker
Nov 6, 2009
As far as I know, most tablets do NOT have HDMI outputs. If I was buying a tablet to hook up to a TV, that's the one thing I'd make sure it would have. Unless you assumed Kodi could be Chromecasted to a TV, which it can't. I guess you could do screen mirroring, but I don't even know if Amazon supports that. Knowing Amazon and how well they play with others' devices, it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't support Chromecast at all.

Call Me Charlie
Dec 3, 2005

by Smythe

katkillad2 posted:

So I bought a Fire HD 8 tablet primarily for Kodi, but also to have a tablet. I don't know why, but I assumed it would be a lot easier to get Kodi from my tablet onto a television. I assume I should have probably got a Shield if I wanted a tablet and ease of use to hook up to a TV through HDMI or a Fire TV if I wanted to forget about the tablet part?

Amazon removed the miracast feature from this year's Fire HD 8. That was the main way to mirror your screen to tv.

You could still get a Fire TV Stick for $30. That'd be the easiest/cheapest way to get Kodi on your TV and the second gen is suppose to be able to handle Kodi alot better than the first gen.

Call Me Charlie fucked around with this message at 00:37 on Nov 27, 2016

Inspector 34
Mar 9, 2009

DOES NOT RESPECT THE RUN

BUT THEY WILL
Is there any reason not to use the LocalCast solution for using Kodi and Chromecast together? I believe there is an extra file or plugin you have to download as well, but installation is really easy and doesn't require rooting. This is basically the only thing I use my older tablets for now, so if there's any issues with other app's performance I might not have noticed them. I've been able to Chromecast videos through kodi this way on multiple Shield tablets and my Nexus 5x.

The only really downside I've seen is that once installed, Localcast will pretty much take over and any video you try to watch from Kodi has to go through it and to a Chromecast. No more playing stuff on you own phone/device, which is why I uninstalled it from my phone.

jonathan
Jul 3, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
USB to HDMI adapter... Isn't that a thing ?

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

jonathan posted:

USB to HDMI adapter... Isn't that a thing ?

Not really.

There is MHL, which often takes the form of micro usb male to HDMI, but your phone/tablet has to support MHL for it to work. It was popular a couple years ago but I haven't seen it on the last couple of phones I had. Also there were compatibility issues with Samsung using a different pin out that other venders.

And there are USB video adaptors which are more or less a USB video card, but they almost certainly wouldn't work with anything other than a Windows PC (also their performance really sucks.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Lowen SoDium posted:

And there are USB video adaptors which are more or less a USB video card, but they almost certainly wouldn't work with anything other than a Windows PC (also their performance really sucks.

Almost all of those are using DisplayLink's chips, which actually have rather wide support including an Android app. I wouldn't use it for gaming but it should work fine for video playback.

Still though I agree that a Fire Stick is the best way to get Kodi on to a TV. They're on sale for $30 right now, the remote is nice, and it has native apps for most major video services other than Google.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

I guess this is the best place to ask. I have one of those budget android boxes, Trongle X3 is the name. 4/5 were fine but one was powering on but not showing any picture. Other times it doesn't power on at all. I've seen others where the reset button is inside the AV port, but this one only has HDMI, optical, ethernet, microSD and USB. I eventually found the pinhole was underneath the box below the AC port. Through different combinations of holding the reset button for varying lengths prior to connecting power I was able to get it up and running again, but its gone down again after unplugging it. I've even gotten the recovery menu up a couple times but as the box has no buttons I cant do anything, it doesn't recognize the remote or keyboard. The seller sent me the software and image which is installed via PC USB connection but I cant get the program to recognize it, the video tutorial he has shows a different box with the reset pin in the AV port as mentioned before, and it has to be held prior to connecting to the PC via USB for it to connect. Holding the reset button on the bottom and connecting doesn't work. They are sending me a replacement but if they aren't going to ask for me to send this one back I'd like to try and get it working if possible. Anyone know any tricks?

Ixian
Oct 9, 2001

Many machines on Ix....new machines
Pillbug
My advice is to throw that piece of poo poo in the trash and not buy "free TV" knock off Android boxes that leverage Kodi off Amazon. You can get a Fire TV 2 stick for less than that that will do a better job running Kodi as well as most everything else for a shitload less hassle.

codo27
Apr 21, 2008

I'm in Canada and from a quick search it doesn't seem like its easy to get here. Besides it ain't for me, I'm going the HTPC route

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SCheeseman
Apr 23, 2003

I use a Celeron Intel NUC and have been pretty happy with it, though maybe a little overkill for LibreElec. Performance is perfect.

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