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GoneRampant
Aug 19, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

Trogdos! posted:

This is the UC4 thread but since there isn't C&I general I'm just gonna post in here that I love the Watch_Dogs 2 video on your youtube channel. The first thought I had after I saw videos of the game in its released state was "I hope C&I are going to LP this turd" :v:

I'm playing it right now, and while I'm reserving full judgement until I finish the game... it's already a hell of a lot better than the original (Which I predicted alongside a lot of people here on the thread that WD2 would be an AC2 style revamp). Brighter, funner, more cringey but for comedy, and a general sense of "We screwed up, let's do it better."

Also, holy God, I don't need to climb towers. There's even a moment where the game teases you with a character going "You gotta climb this tower!" before someone else goes "He's loving with you, the elevator's on the way down." I actually laughed at that for a second.

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Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Watch-Digs would have been so much better if Aiden could go out only wearing underwear

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Watch_Dogs 1 should have been about Aiden trying to complete a single day without life taking a dump on him for being an insufferable prick, culminating in a boss battle against God which you simply can't win because Aiden is just that much of a prick.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



everyone I've heard talk about watch dogs 2 seems to like it, so good on ubisoft for doing it better this time around

tho if assassin's creed has taught us anything, it's that every good game is followed with a bad one so the next game will be an uninspired mess

Jetrauben
Sep 7, 2011
angered the evil eye lately

CJacobs posted:

I really dislike when people bring up this kind of point. There's quite a difference between things that are out of the realm of feasibility, and out of the realm of possibility. Tree sap zombies are not possible, so being annoyed by their presence is unreasonable. The pyrates building all these crazy elaborate things, even with their big fortunes and manpower, is possible but unfeasible.

It's unrealistic not in the sense that it bothers people because it can't happen in our world, it's unrealistic in the sense that within the confines of the story they would most likely not have been able to do all this unless they were richer-than-god supervillains commanding entire nations of people. The difference between the two examples is that while the game says they are both possible in its world, the latter is harder to accept because even with the information the game gives us it's still stretching it.

Thanks. It's less that it's a question of plausibility and more that the eventual payoff isn't proportionate to the quest itself. Questing for Shambhala or El Dorado or Iram of the Pillars has a grandeur to it that explains why people would build these incredible megaconstructions, Libertalia is just a pirate utopia containing mere money. Like, all the measures taken here to test applicants feel a bit overblown given what's actually being protected is to all appearances just a mundane, if enormous fortune.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

There is no way Libertalia is just money. It's never just money.

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



we already know what it is

the world's most expensive theme park

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??
I want the next clue to lead back to any of the places they'd already been, only for Sam and Nate to go "Ah poo poo we totally destroyed that place."

Sorry you're going to get shot by Robin Atkin Downes, Sam, but maybe you guys should have left at least one of those spots as not-a-crater

Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Manatee Cannon posted:

we already know what it is

the world's most expensive theme park

Running out of time in the later stages of development, Naughty Dog panicked and accidentally licensed Eggmanland from Sonic Unleashed as the final map of the game.

Jetrauben
Sep 7, 2011
angered the evil eye lately
In fairness, I suppose the pyrates could have relied upon slave labor, and it's the era for jerks to do that sort of thing. But it's never really mentioned or anything.

Quicksilver6
Mar 21, 2008



Guybrush Threepwood is involved. Obviously Libertalia and all the super statues are related to The Secret of Monkey Island (TM)!

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

Who cleans up the poop in Libertalia?

Xinder
Apr 27, 2013

i want to be a prince

Jetrauben posted:

In fairness, I suppose the pyrates could have relied upon slave labor, and it's the era for jerks to do that sort of thing. But it's never really mentioned or anything.

Considering how big on individual freedom they seem to be, I don't find slave labor too likely. But I suppose it's definitely possible.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Quicksilver6 posted:

Guybrush Threepwood is involved. Obviously Libertalia and all the super statues are related to The Secret of Monkey Island (TM)!

Oh god. What if ...



what if Guybrush was in charge of finances??!

Quicksilver6
Mar 21, 2008



double nine posted:

Oh god. What if ...



what if Guybrush was in charge of finances??!

Then I'd say let's look for the final resting site of Largo Lagrande, but he blew up in a hidden Caribbean voodoo fortress.

I don't think we have a map for that.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Sooo... The final boss is LeChuck, in all his glorygory?

I'll accept it.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Sinners Sandwich posted:

Who cleans up the poop in Libertalia?

Anyone who can't hold their tongue and say "born on a pyrate ship" has to swab the poop deck.

Buzzsaw Roomba
Feb 14, 2012

Christ, what an asshole.

Xinder posted:

Considering how big on individual freedom they seem to be, I don't find slave labor too likely. But I suppose it's definitely possible.

Liberty for me but not for thee is a common theme throughout human history. But in this case I expect they're relying on ye olde suspension of disbelief.

Verklemptomaniac
Apr 23, 2008
I think I figured out what that vomiting goose treasure is supposed to be.

It's a Grey Goose, obviously.

malkav11
Aug 7, 2009

Manatee Cannon posted:

we already know what it is

the world's most expensive theme park

Perhaps a...Jurassic park?

chitoryu12
Apr 24, 2014

Jetrauben posted:

Thanks. It's less that it's a question of plausibility and more that the eventual payoff isn't proportionate to the quest itself. Questing for Shambhala or El Dorado or Iram of the Pillars has a grandeur to it that explains why people would build these incredible megaconstructions, Libertalia is just a pirate utopia containing mere money. Like, all the measures taken here to test applicants feel a bit overblown given what's actually being protected is to all appearances just a mundane, if enormous fortune.

I have to be careful because I've already beaten the game and don't want to spoil anything.

My personal view on Libertalia is that it's what the Drakes keep calling it: a pirate utopia. The myth goes deeper than simply all the pirates shoving their gold in a big building and wandering off to die in battle. The blueprints and diorama suggest a serious effort to make a hidden city utilizing their riches, which can be used as a home and a base for further pirating.

Rather than just another Money Pit, it's an attempt at civilization of sorts. It's a city of its own, just with an economy based on raiding and subsistence farming rather than trade of any kind. The trials suggest that the founders wanted to see Libertalia grow, but at least initially only wanted a handful of the toughest and smartest pirates to join.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Quicksilver6 posted:

Guybrush Threepwood is involved. Obviously Libertalia and all the super statues are related to The Secret of Monkey Island (TM)!

Big Whoop!

Manatee Cannon
Aug 26, 2010



malkav11 posted:

Perhaps a...Jurassic park?

you have no idea how down for that I am. if they ever bring nathan drake back, I want them to drop him in increasing ridiculous and impossible situations

or like just have nate and friends randomly in different settings with no explanation given; they're just there as though they always were. I remember people wanting nathan fillion to play drake in any uncharted movie that might happen, but I say go the other way and make drake a spaceship captain

Fecha
Nov 4, 2006

Did I... did I miss anything important?
On the subject of general C&I discussion, sorry if it's something I missed but do they have plans for covering MGSV?

General Ironicus
Aug 21, 2008

Something about this feels kinda hinky

Fecha posted:

On the subject of general C&I discussion, sorry if it's something I missed but do they have plans for covering MGSV?

I'm told there is a notebook full of plans. What there is not, is an ETA.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
I imagine Chip is having a hard time thinking up ways to keep the LP interesting while still showing off a lot of content since a huge amount of MGSV is "Do the same thing in different locations and maybe a little harder."

Sinners Sandwich
Jan 4, 2012

Give me your friend's BURGERS and SANDWICHES, I'll put out the fire.

He already lp'ed WatDogs though

Quicksilver6
Mar 21, 2008




I expect nothing less. Especially considering how down Guybrush was in Curse after finding it. "I don't remember much, but I was expecting something great and was really disappointed..."

E: I have not played this game and have no idea what will happen, but disappointment seems guaranteed...

GoneRampant
Aug 19, 2016

by FactsAreUseless

1stGear posted:

I imagine Chip is having a hard time thinking up ways to keep the LP interesting while still showing off a lot of content since a huge amount of MGSV is "Do the same thing in different locations and maybe a little harder."

I like to theorize that part of the reason Watch Dogs was done in the first place was to get practice on doing an LP of a big sandbox game. My bet's that we'll get a montage of all of the repeat missions done in two or three videos (I'm saying that many to allow for the plot scenes that happen during that time).

Leal's LP is certainly an example of how to do an MGSV LP, but the only other game from last year that lends itself so poorly to LPing is Witcher 3 due to sheer size.

achillesforever6
Apr 23, 2012

psst you wanna do a communism?

Xinder posted:

Considering how big on individual freedom they seem to be, I don't find slave labor too likely. But I suppose it's definitely possible.
Eh Henry Avery was probably cool with it judging by this

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

achillesforever6 posted:

Eh Henry Avery was probably cool with it judging by this


Aw jeez. Guybrush, don't hang out with guys who own slaves. :(

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

achillesforever6 posted:

Eh Henry Avery was probably cool with it judging by this


:eyepop:

"No, don't just buy a regular umbrella. Make me a custom one, a giant martini umbrella. Angled so that it may be carried behind me from a distance at all times."

Akratic Method
Mar 9, 2013

It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

CJacobs posted:

:eyepop:

"No, don't just buy a regular umbrella. Make me a custom one, a giant martini umbrella. Angled so that it may be carried behind me from a distance at all times."

"Well, I suppose now that you mention it, yes, that bent beach umbrella would suffice if you just cut off half of the top."

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
"I also want it to shade only me. Not even the poor guy carrying the thing. Non-pyrate captyns may be deserving of fortune, but they are surely undeserving of shade!"

Miz Kriss
Mar 17, 2009

It's only an avatar if the Cubs get swept.
You know, considering that this is supposed to be comprised of all the best pirates pyrates, I'm really surprised that Ching Shih isn't part of it.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Libertalia might have been a step down for Ching Shih.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Really Pants posted:

Libertalia might have been a step down for Ching Shih.

To put it mildly.

Libertalia seems like a nice enough island, but at her peak, Ching Shih's command was the same size as the modern population of Guam.

She kicked government rear end on all sides until they went "You know what? You can quit! No strings. Just please stop robbing us."

So she did, and she spent the back half of her life running a casino.

White Coke
May 29, 2015
Ching Shih was also active a hundred years after Avery died. Or "died" according to the game.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

malkav11 posted:

Perhaps a...Jurassic park?

I would accept an Uncharted game with a Dinosaur twist as long as the dinosaurs recognized Sully.

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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Really Pants posted:

Libertalia might have been a step down for Ching Shih.

From the auction chapter:

Discendo Vox posted:

I believe the striking set of sculptures by the pool are based off a similar installation in Brookgreen Gardens.

haha, so many easter eggs:
  • Ching Shih (whose holding company is selling the first items) was a famous Chinese female pirate. I think she shows up in the Assassin's creed games.
  • Nicholas Trott (whose estate the cross is from) was the judge who tried Stede Bonnett, and appeared in A General History of the Pyrates.
  • Most of the other items, like the Mask of Warka, are unique and famous archaeological treasures that had been stolen at some point. The Lion attacking a Nubian, Victoria's mace, Monet painting, Shanidar skull, and the faberge egg the list mentions still haven't been recovered.
  • There's some political commentary, too- the other individual artifacts are "stolen" in another sense- they were at the center of disputes involving their being taken from the countries of origin during conflict and making their way to Western museums.

What was on that whiteboard after the pickpocketing segment?

This game is great.

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